On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 02:06:25AM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote:
> Also if udeb:s are going to be using xz then it makes even more sense to use
> it for everything.
µdebs won't use the xz default, though. (The compression for them will be
handled in debhelper.)
With the compression scheme I posted
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 11:13:05AM +1000, Russell Coker wrote:
> On Sun, 13 May 2012, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> > Being forced to upgrade to a new major version by a stable security support
> > is nothing we should force our users to. Debian stable is known for
> > (usually) painfree updates and bugf
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 09:27:26AM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote:
> On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 02:06:25AM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote:
> > Also if udeb:s are going to be using xz then it makes even more sense to use
> > it for everything.
>
> µdebs won't use the xz default, though. (The compression for t
* Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) [120512 23:06]:
> Charles Plessy writes:
>
> > Unless we expect that two different binary packages that can be
> > co-installed will distribute the same directory under different
> > ownership or permissions for a good reason, why not simply let dpkg
> > apply own
Jon Dowland wrote:
>On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 11:13:05AM +1000, Russell Coker wrote:
>> On Sun, 13 May 2012, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
>> > Being forced to upgrade to a new major version by a stable security support
>> > is nothing we should force our users to. Debian stable is known for
>> > (usually) p
On Sun, 13 May 2012, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> Yes, it's difficult to work out. I'd also be worried by the
> (potential?) set of users who may just use Wordpress because it's
> already packaged and who therefore assume that it's likely to be a
> safe option. Without that, they may just use something
Hi,
I'm going to reintroduce unversioned libnspr4 and libnss3 for various
reasons. These packages used to exist in the Debian archive, but the
last time they were seen was in sarge. The first release *not* including
them was etch. This is quite some time ago.
The versions they had by then had an
Mike Hommey, le Sun 13 May 2012 11:16:13 +0200, a écrit :
> The versions they had by then had an epoch. Supposedly, to make the new
> versions greater than these, I have to add an epoch. But do I really
> need to care about making the new versions greater than these packages
> last seen 4 years ago
On 12-05-13 at 11:16am, Mike Hommey wrote:
> I'm going to reintroduce unversioned libnspr4 and libnss3 for various
> reasons. These packages used to exist in the Debian archive, but the
> last time they were seen was in sarge. The first release *not*
> including them was etch. This is quite some
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 11:16:13AM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm going to reintroduce unversioned libnspr4 and libnss3 for various
> reasons. These packages used to exist in the Debian archive, but the
> last time they were seen was in sarge. The first release *not* including
> them was
* Andreas Barth [2012-05-13 11:06 +0200]:
> * Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) [120512 23:06]:
> > Charles Plessy writes:
> >
> > > Unless we expect that two different binary packages that can be
> > > co-installed will distribute the same directory under different
> > > ownership or permissions for
On Sun, 2012-05-13 at 09:55 +0100, Jon Dowland wrote:
> On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 11:13:05AM +1000, Russell Coker wrote:
> > On Sun, 13 May 2012, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> > > Being forced to upgrade to a new major version by a stable security
> > > support
> > > is nothing we should force our users t
On 12-05-13 at 11:49am, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Mike Hommey, le Sun 13 May 2012 11:16:13 +0200, a écrit :
> > The versions they had by then had an epoch. Supposedly, to make the
> > new versions greater than these, I have to add an epoch. But do I
> > really need to care about making the new ver
On 12-05-13 at 12:16pm, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 11:16:13AM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote:
> > I'm going to reintroduce unversioned libnspr4 and libnss3 for
> > various reasons. These packages used to exist in the Debian archive,
> > but the last time they were seen was in sarge.
On 2012-05-13 11:49 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Mike Hommey, le Sun 13 May 2012 11:16:13 +0200, a écrit :
>> The versions they had by then had an epoch. Supposedly, to make the new
>> versions greater than these, I have to add an epoch. But do I really
>> need to care about making the new vers
On 05/13/2012 11:32 AM, Russell Coker wrote:
> On Sun, 13 May 2012, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>> Yes, it's difficult to work out. I'd also be worried by the
>> (potential?) set of users who may just use Wordpress because it's
>> already packaged and who therefore assume that it's likely to be a
>> saf
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 12:40:14 +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
> On 2012-05-13 11:49 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote:
>
> > Mike Hommey, le Sun 13 May 2012 11:16:13 +0200, a écrit :
> >> The versions they had by then had an epoch. Supposedly, to make the new
> >> versions greater than these, I have to
Hi,
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 11:26:26AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> The value is the same as for most packages: it's easy to install and
> easy to upgrade (I assume; I don't use Wordpress). Yes, the expected
if someone in Debian would want to make that effort, I'd say that
Wordpress and the li
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 12:40:14PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
> On 2012-05-13 11:49 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote:
>
> > Mike Hommey, le Sun 13 May 2012 11:16:13 +0200, a écrit :
> >> The versions they had by then had an epoch. Supposedly, to make the new
> >> versions greater than these, I have to
On sam., 2012-05-12 at 23:45 +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> Being forced to upgrade to a new major version by a stable security support is
> nothing we should force our users to. Debian stable is known for (usually)
> painfree updates and bugfixes only, not for shipping completely new versions
> wit
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Le Sun, May 13, 2012 at 11:16:13AM +0200, Mike Hommey a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> I'm going to reintroduce unversioned libnspr4 and libnss3 for various
> reasons. These packages used to exist in the Debian archive, but the
> last time they were seen was in sarge. The first release *not* including
> them w
I can get #651620 (rocksndiamonds)
I fixed this some time ago for Slackware.
2012/5/13 Niels Thykier
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On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 02:23:38PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote:
> Sounds like it would be safer to go with an epoch.
You could vary the package name slightly instead, but I don't have a suggestion
as to how, and you have to live with either.
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I've uploaded new versions of libtiff4-dev and libtiff-dev (now the name
for libtiff5-dev, with libtiff5-dev as a virtual package). libtiff-dev
now provides both libti
Hi,
On 12/05/12 12:23, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> This may not be entirely trivial to solve. find | xargs constructs at best
> mitigate this to a race. While chown does have a --no-derefence flag, this
> does not protect us in the case of hardlinks. chmod has no such flag, and
> it'd
> useful on
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 10:35:48 -0400, Jay Berkenbilt wrote:
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>
> I've uploaded new versions of libtiff4-dev and libtiff-dev (now the name
> for libtiff5-dev, with
Le vendredi 11 mai 2012 à 11:37 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen a écrit :
> I have /lib/systemd/system/foo.service and want to change something in
> it, I then create /etc/systemd/system/foo.service with a copy of the
> /lib one plus whatever changes I want.
>
> The version in /lib is then updated. How is
On Sunday, May 13, 2012 06:28:03, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> On 12-05-13 at 11:49am, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > Mike Hommey, le Sun 13 May 2012 11:16:13 +0200, a écrit :
> > > The versions they had by then had an epoch. Supposedly, to make the
> > > new versions greater than these, I have to add an
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 16:43:39 +0200, Julien Cristau wrote:
> Please don't do that. libtiff-dev needs to point to libtiff4 until
> after the wheezy release.
>
The files have been moved out of the upload queue for now.
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Hi,
Is there anybody familar with Solaris IPS manifests [1]?
They are terrible and unflexible, but allow describing users, permissions
etc.
I thinks post/pre/install/remove scripts are create advantage, cause
they allow do dirty things *iff* needed.
[1]
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On Sun, 13 May 2012, Leo "costela" Antunes wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 12/05/12 12:23, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> > This may not be entirely trivial to solve. find | xargs constructs at best
> > mitigate this to a race. While chown does have a --no-derefence flag, this
> > does not protect us in the case
Adam Borowski wrote:
> Except that busybox has xz support, and is loaded from an udeb way before
> any regular debs are seen. Ie, there is no reason to stop "core packages"
> from using decent compression.
Yes there is. busybox is used on a variety of systems, which are
unlikely to have xz instal
Carsten Hey writes:
> * Andreas Barth [2012-05-13 11:06 +0200]:
>> * Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) [120512 23:06]:
>>> Usually because the UID is dynamically assigned and the user is
>>> created in the postinst, so there's no way for dpkg do do this at
>>> unpack.
>>> You would need to apply pe
Jon Dowland writes:
> If we can't provide stable packages then I don't see what value we add
> by packaging it at all. I wonder what the ratio of wordpress+debian
> users is who use the package versus those that hand-install anyway, and
> whether that is something that could ever be feasibly est
Mike Hommey writes:
> I'm going to reintroduce unversioned libnspr4 and libnss3 for various
> reasons. These packages used to exist in the Debian archive, but the
> last time they were seen was in sarge. The first release *not* including
> them was etch. This is quite some time ago.
> The versio
On Sunday, May 13, 2012 12:42:46, Joey Hess wrote:
> Adam Borowski wrote:
> > Except that busybox has xz support, and is loaded from an udeb way before
> > any regular debs are seen. Ie, there is no reason to stop "core
> > packages" from using decent compression.
>
> Yes there is. busybox is use
Le vendredi 11 mai 2012 à 11:25 +0200, Gergely Nagy a écrit :
> Thomas Goirand writes:
> > The fact that these files are in /lib and shouldn't be touched by the admin
> > doesn't make them less configuration files. They still match the above
> > definition from Wikipedia.
>
> Can I point you to /
* Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) [120513 18:52]:
> Carsten Hey writes:
> > * Andreas Barth [2012-05-13 11:06 +0200]:
> >> and let dpkg handle all of that?
>
> > This doesn't look like a task that should be done by dpkg itself;
> > instead debhelper or dpkg-maintscript-helper could be used.
>
>
On 12-05-13 at 10:51am, Chris Knadle wrote:
> On Sunday, May 13, 2012 06:28:03, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> > On 12-05-13 at 11:49am, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > > Mike Hommey, le Sun 13 May 2012 11:16:13 +0200, a écrit :
> > > > The versions they had by then had an epoch. Supposedly, to make
> > > >
2012/5/13 Cyril Brulebois :
> kFreeBSD Specific
> -
> * Kernel updated to version 8.3.
> * Option to use new 9.0 kernel during install.
> * Detect LVM devices.
LVM detection is still not complete, we still need to figure out where
to put the command to load LVM support in runtim
Josselin Mouette writes:
> Le vendredi 11 mai 2012 à 11:25 +0200, Gergely Nagy a écrit :
>> Thomas Goirand writes:
>> > The fact that these files are in /lib and shouldn't be touched by the admin
>> > doesn't make them less configuration files. They still match the above
>> > definition from Wik
On 05/13/2012 08:12 PM, Toni Mueller wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 11:26:26AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
>
>> The value is the same as for most packages: it's easy to install and
>> easy to upgrade (I assume; I don't use Wordpress). Yes, the expected
>>
> if someone in Debian w
On 05/13/2012 05:32 PM, Russell Coker wrote:
> There are lots of people who choose Wordpress because it seems to provide a
> lot of features that other systems don't provide, which includes a
> significant
> set of free themes and plugins which are available from Wordpress.org (not in
> Debian)
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On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 12:59:11PM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote:
> On Sunday, May 13, 2012 12:42:46, Joey Hess wrote:
> > Many arm systems have 64 mb of ram or less.
>
> The NSLU2 boxes that were common to install a port of Debian onto are one
> such
> example, although I'm not sure how realistic a
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 12:42:46PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> Adam Borowski wrote:
> > Except that busybox has xz support, and is loaded from an udeb way before
> > any regular debs are seen. Ie, there is no reason to stop "core packages"
> > from using decent compression.
>
> Yes there is. busybo
On Sunday, May 13, 2012 13:41:13, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> On 12-05-13 at 10:51am, Chris Knadle wrote:
> > On Sunday, May 13, 2012 06:28:03, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> > > On 12-05-13 at 11:49am, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > > > Mike Hommey, le Sun 13 May 2012 11:16:13 +0200, a écrit :
> > > > > The
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 21:35:16 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> That's why busybox includes xz :)
>
Not all relevant busybox builds do, which is the point.
Cheers,
Julien
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On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 02:54:40PM +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
> On sam., 2012-05-12 at 23:45 +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> > Being forced to upgrade to a new major version by a stable security support
> > is
> > nothing we should force our users to. Debian stable is known for (usually)
> > pa
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 09:49:19PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote:
> On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 21:35:16 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
>
> > That's why busybox includes xz :)
> >
> Not all relevant busybox builds do, which is the point.
Could you please mention which ones do not? And if so, how are the
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Le samedi 12 mai 2012 22:56:39, Russ Allbery a écrit :
> "Thomas Preud'homme" writes:
> > Are you referring to [1]? Because the full paragraph is about Program's
> > source code.
> >
> > [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-policy/2000/11/msg00260.html
> >
> > " 1. You may copy and distribute verb
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 01:41:32PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote:
> On a related note...
> While we might criticise rpm for its bad conffile handling, dpkg is
> itself fairly woeful, and if we change one thing for wheezy+1, it
> should be sane conffile handling. dpkg should never "forget" about
> conff
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> Hey folks,
>
> Remembering the fun that we had during the Squeeze release with trying
> to make single-CD installations work well, it's time to consider what
> we're going to *claim* to support in Wheezy. We've had a history of
> supporting
Adam Borowski wrote:
> Could you please mention which ones do not? And if so, how are they
> relevant/are they fixable?
As one of the maintainers of debootstrap, I am perhaps more aware than
some how broadly it's used. Ok..
They use it on Android (41,600 hits including
http://evilzone.org/andro
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Russ Allbery:
>> So, I think [0] is the most astute message in that thread.
>
>> [0] http://lists.debian.org/debian-policy/2000/11/msg00251.html
>
> I thought that too when I first read it, but later in the thread are very
> cogent arguments for why it's wrong and
> The package is already functional at
> http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/pkg-escience/poclbm
> but I am not feeling like maintaining the package for the
> distribution. If you read this and feel like maintaining
> it, even as a newbie to Debian, you may contact me as a
> mentor/sponsor.
So
Michael Gilbert writes:
> Hmmm, I really meant that I found point 1 to be quite astute. I agree,
> the conclusion is quite off. The copyright file is very important in
> binary packages, and should have full-text licenses.
> The important aspect of point 1 is the conclusion that at least with
On Sun, 13 May 2012 18:36:09 -0400
Michael Gilbert wrote:
> On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> > Hey folks,
> >
> > Remembering the fun that we had during the Squeeze release with trying
> > to make single-CD installations work well, it's time to consider what
> > we're goi
"Thomas Preud'homme" writes:
> Back to the redistribution. In the section 4 (Conveying Verbatim
> Copies), what is discussed is the redistribution of the Program as
> source code form. Every word is part of the same sentence, whose
> structure is: You may convey verbatim copies (…) provided that
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Neil Williams wrote:
> "supporting only the smaller/lighter desktop environments" is exactly
> what comes out of accepting that the first two options just won't be
> acceptable. Changing compression is only putting off the inevitable.
> There's *no* reason to think that GNOME or KDE are going to ge
On May 14, Neil Williams wrote:
> I'd support XFCE4 as the default Graphical Desktop Environment and
> possibly putting GNOME (and KDE) as alternative options.
What is the point of providing a default which is not what people
usually want?
Just document that a normal desktop install will require
Dmitry,
Pylucene is an incredibly useful package. The very best thing is for me to
no longer be involved as a maintainer for pylucene. But in the short term,
if you want or need me to sponsor an upload, I can do so as early as
tomorrow. Let me know.
On Dom 13 May 2012 21:40:10 Marco d'Itri escribió:
[snip]
> Does anybody actually know that people routinely try to install desktop
> systems with only a CD and no networking, and why?
> What is the use case for this? Cheap DVD readers have been around for
> over 10 years now.
Actually, I was goin
Excelent work!!!
2012/5/13 Cyril Brulebois
> The Debian Installer team[1] is pleased to announce the first alpha
> release of the installer for Debian Wheezy.
>
>
> Improvements in this release of the installer
> =
>
> Network configuration
> -
Hello,
Joey Hess, le Sun 13 May 2012 20:39:20 -0400, a écrit :
> Neil Williams wrote:
> > "supporting only the smaller/lighter desktop environments" is exactly
> > what comes out of accepting that the first two options just won't be
> > acceptable. Changing compression is only putting off the inev
Dear all,
is the BTS and QA page undergoing some changes? I am asking because
some things behave strange:
* bug 670494 filed against ptex-bin, which is currently maintained
by debian-tex-maint mailing list, but the bug report was sent
(long after take over) to the old maintainer, so we missed
On 12-05-13 at 10:26pm, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote:
> On Dom 13 May 2012 21:40:10 Marco d'Itri escribió:
> [snip]
> > Does anybody actually know that people routinely try to install desktop
> > systems with only a CD and no networking, and why?
> > What is the use case for this? Chea
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On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 06:19:25PM -0700, Jeff Breidenbach wrote:
> Dmitry,
>
> Pylucene is an incredibly useful package. The very best thing is for me to
> no longer be involved as a maintainer for pylucene. But in the short term,
> if you want or need me to sponsor an upload, I can do so as earl
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