Re: Use of the first person in messages from the computer

On Vi, 10 feb 12, 14:20:58, Miles Bader wrote: > > Hmmm, while it may not be the best thing to have a non-native speaker > in charge of wording, I think it actually _is_ useful to have their > input. Sometimes language that seems pretty obvious to a native > speaker isn't clear at all to many non

Re: severity for bugs in ignoring TMP/TMPDIR?

On 10/02/2012, Paul Wise wrote: > On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Paul Wise wrote: > >> If I notice that software in Debian is ignoring TMP/TMPDIR (since I use >> libpam-tmpdir), what severity should I file the resulting bugs at? > > I'll file them at wishlist as suggested by the second mail in t

Re: mass bug filing of 'ucf: command not found' errors detected by piuparts

On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 11:18:08PM +0100, Andreas Beckmann wrote: > Roger Leigh wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 11:52:42AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 08:10:11PM +0100, Luk Claes wrote: > > > > > Interesting timing. initscripts started depending on ucf just a > > >

pdiffs

* David Kalnischkies [120210 02:44]: > >> off-topic but often pdiffs don't really speed up apt-get update. Added > >> roundtrip time latency on pulling several small files slows down the > >> download unless you run update nightly. > > > > One of the reasons of this I think, is that the current pd

Re: DEP-5 and files with white spaces

On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 11:05:25PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Note that another case that I don't think has been discussed, but which is > probably more common than embedded quote marks, is a filename that's > invalid UTF-8 (straight ISO 8859-1, for example). Do these even happen anymore? Looki

Re: DEP-5 and files with white spaces

On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 11:05:25PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Wouter Verhelst writes: > > On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 11:01:00AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > >> Not a solution on its own. > > > Actually, I think it's a perfectly workable solution. > > >> What about a file named foo" bar

Bug#659338: ITP: jenkins-instance-identity -- Instance identity management module for Jenkins CI.

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: James Page -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 * Package name: jenkins-instance-identity Version : 1.2 * URL : https://github.com/jenkinsci/instance-identity-module * License : MIT Programming Lang: Java De

Re: How to tell users that ia32-libs will go away

Dear ftp-master, I wonder if the solution below for transitioning ia32-libs to multiarch would be OK in regards to DAK and testing transition etc. Any technical problems why we couldn't make an exception for the 3 ia32-libs* packages for this? Steve Langasek writes: > On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 0

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Re: Please test gzip -9n - related to dpkg with multiarch support

Steve Langasek writes: > On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 10:29:53PM +0100, Guillem Jover wrote: >> > But the more interesting slowdown is that the amount of packages is general >> > slows down apt operations in a rate that is around O(dependencies^2) (pure >> > guess, >> > perhaps someone has better kno

Re: DEP-5 and files with white spaces

* Russ Allbery , 2012-02-09, 23:05: Note that another case that I don't think has been discussed, but which is probably more common than embedded quote marks, is a filename that's invalid UTF-8 (straight ISO 8859-1, for example). That's also not representable in our typical debian/copyright fil

Re: Endianness of data files in MultiArch

Aron Xu writes: > Sorry, the thread was broken and I saw your reply just now. > > On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 16:23, Jan Hauke Rahm wrote: >> On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 01:58:28AM +0800, Aron Xu wrote: >>> >>> This is valid for most-used applications/formats like gettext, images >>> that are designed to

Re: Use of the first person in messages from the computer

Wouter Verhelst writes ("Re: Use of the first person in messages from the computer"): > A computer cannot refer to itself, because it does not have a self. I'm sorry, but that is completely wrong. "README" "drink me" " me facit" I'm sure others can come up with many other examples, ancient a

Re: How to tell users that ia32-libs will go away

* Ben Hutchings [120209 20:45]: > There is a similar issue with linux-image-*-amd64, which I would > definitely like to remove from i386 as soon as possible. We have > metapackages to help with this already, but we still need users to add > amd64 as a foreign architecture before upgrading. >From

Bug#659344: ITP: tkhtml3 -- Render HTML and CSS content with tk

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Ole Streicher X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, pkg-tcltk-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org * Package name: tkhtml3 Version : alpha-16 Upstream Author : Dan Kennedy * URL : http://tkhtml.tcl.tk/index.html * License

Re: How to tell users that ia32-libs will go away

On Fri, 2012-02-10 at 13:00 +0100, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > * Ben Hutchings [120209 20:45]: > > There is a similar issue with linux-image-*-amd64, which I would > > definitely like to remove from i386 as soon as possible. We have > > metapackages to help with this already, but we still need user

Re: How to tell users that ia32-libs will go away

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 01:00:50PM +0100, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > From a user's point of view I'd really appreciate if that package could be > kept. It is a burden for the archive and other infrastructure. > Needing multi-arch enabled (with all the dangers of getting the > wrong packages

Re: How to tell users that ia32-libs will go away

* Ben Hutchings [120210 14:45]: > On Fri, 2012-02-10 at 13:00 +0100, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > > * Ben Hutchings [120209 20:45]: > > > There is a similar issue with linux-image-*-amd64, which I would > > > definitely like to remove from i386 as soon as possible. We have > > > metapackages to hel

Bug#659366: ITP: jenkins-ssh-cli-auth -- SSH CLI client authentication module for Jenkins CI

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: James Page -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 * Package name: jenkins-ssh-cli-auth Version : 1.2 * URL : https://github.com/jenkinsci/ssh-cli-auth-module * License : MIT Programming Lang: Java Description

Re: How to tell users that ia32-libs will go away

* Bastian Blank [120210 14:47]: > On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 01:00:50PM +0100, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > > Needing multi-arch enabled (with all the dangers of getting the > > wrong packages installed > > Multi-arch enabled apt makes it hard to install the wrong ones. Also > they are not wrong,

Re: Please test gzip -9n - related to dpkg with multiarch support

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 12:47:20PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > That's based on a sample of 1200 packages currently tagged Multi-Arch: > > same in the Ubuntu precise archive. If we have all packages in sections > > libs and libdevel converted for multiarch (which I suppose we eventually

Bug#659380: ITP: libnet-iptrie-perl -- Perl module for building IPv4 and IPv6 address space hierarchies

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Carlos Vicente I'd like to maintain the following new package * Package name: libnet-iptrie-perl Version : 0.7 Upstream Author : Carlos Vicente * URL : http://search.cpan.org/~cvicente/Net-IPTrie-0.7/ * License : Artist

Re: Please test gzip -9n - related to dpkg with multiarch support

* Guillem Jover , 2012-02-09, 03:45: But anyway, I believe that in the long run we should simply deprecate compressing stuff in /usr/share/doc/. So the main reason people are arguing for shared files boils down to used size, either in installed files, or Packages files, etc, I don't know wha

Re: Endianness of data files in MultiArch

Hi, On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 12:59:15PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Aron Xu writes: > > > Sorry, the thread was broken and I saw your reply just now. > > > > On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 16:23, Jan Hauke Rahm wrote: > >> On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 01:58:28AM +0800, Aron Xu wrote: > >>> > >>> Thi

Re: Please test gzip -9n - related to dpkg with multiarch support

Bastian Blank writes ("Re: Please test gzip -9n - related to dpkg with multiarch support"): >On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 11:45:52AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: >>And then if I have a multiarch system, and want to locally download the >>source of some library, build it and install it, dpkg will complain if

Re: Use of the first person in messages from the computer

Ian Jackson wrote: > Wouter Verhelst writes ("Re: Use of the first person in messages from the > computer"): >> A computer cannot refer to itself, because it does not have a self. > > I'm sorry, but that is completely wrong. > > "README" > "drink me" > " me facit" README is itself a referenc

Re: DEP-5 and files with white spaces

Jakub Wilk writes: > * Russ Allbery , 2012-02-09, 23:05: >> Note that another case that I don't think has been discussed, but which >> is probably more common than embedded quote marks, is a filename that's >> invalid UTF-8 (straight ISO 8859-1, for example). That's also not >> representable in o

Re: Please test gzip -9n - related to dpkg with multiarch support

Steve Langasek writes: > And what about adding 700 packages vs. adding no packages at all, in the > case of systems which aren't going to have multiarch enabled? > This would impact systems of all archs, not just those for which multiarch > is a significant use case. I'm having a really hard ti

Re: Use of the first person in messages from the computer

On Donnerstag, 9. Februar 2012, Russell Coker wrote: > In the US corporations are people, so surely computers are people too. because clearly, the US is always right. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@l

Re: Bug#655999: [bugs.debian.org] Reporting documentation - "What package does your bug report belong to?" points to user support groups

[Forgot to Cc joy] Hi Andrei, On 2012-01-15 17:59, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Du, 15 ian 12, 14:35:17, Filipus Klutiero wrote: debian-user's topic is user support. For technical discussions about development, the default group is debian-devel@lists.debian.org. Reference: http://anonscm.debian.

Re: Bug#655999: [bugs.debian.org] Reporting documentation - "What package does your bug report belong to?" points to user support groups

severity 655999 normal tags 655999 - wontfix retitle 655999 Reporting documentation - "What package does your bug report belong to?" points to user support groups thanks Hi Don, On 2012-01-15 19:25, Don Armstrong wrote: severity 655999 wishlist tag 655999 wontfix retitle 655999 Allow for bug

Bug#659402: ITP: libcrypt-cast5-perl -- This module provides an implementation of the CAST5 block cipher

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Carlos Vicente * Package name: libcrypt-cast5-perl Version : 0.05 Upstream Author : Bob Mathews * URL : http://search.cpan.org/~bobmath/Crypt-CAST5-0.05/ * License : Artistic Programming Lang: Perl, C Description

Bug#659408: ITP: jquerylazyload -- Lazy Load Plugin for jQuery

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Emilien Klein * Package name: jquerylazyload Version : 1.7.0 Upstream Author : Mika Tuupola * URL : http://www.appelsiini.net/projects/lazyload * License : MIT/Expat Programming Lang: JavaScript Description : Laz

Bug#659413: ITP: libapache2-sitecontrol-perl -- Perl web site authentication/authorization system

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Carlos Vicente * Package name: libapache2-sitecontrol-perl Version : 1.05 Upstream Author : Tony Kay * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Apache2-SiteControl/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: Perl Description :

[DEP9] call for testing of reconf-inetd (update-inetd replacement)

Hi, reconf-inetd is the replacement of update-inetd, as per DEP9. Unlike past proposals for replacing update-inetd, this one is actually implemented and available in experimental. This should be of interest for services that - require separate inetd.conf entries for ipv4/ipv6 versions -

Summary: dpkg shared / reference counted files and version match

[ Obviously this “summary” could be considered biased, but I do think the facts presented are accurate. ] Hi, The two reasons for the shared / reference counted files (refcnt from now on) implementation in dpkg have been: * To avoid massive package proliferation (due to the mandated copyright

Re: Summary: dpkg shared / reference counted files and version match

As the maintainer of a few (popular) library packages I consider splitting these packages a complex and annoying workaround for deficiencies in tools. It is not true that splitting the package is a one time action, every release which adds new files will require dealing with the split. Why was

Re: Please test gzip -9n - related to dpkg with multiarch support

On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 01:40:41PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Steve Langasek writes: > > - For many of these files, it would be actively harmful to use > >architecture-qualified filenames. Manpages included in -dev packages > >should not change names based on the architecture;

Re: Endianness of data files in MultiArch

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 19:59, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Aron Xu writes: > >> Sorry, the thread was broken and I saw your reply just now. >> >> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 16:23, Jan Hauke Rahm wrote: >>> On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 01:58:28AM +0800, Aron Xu wrote: This is valid for most-us

Re: Summary: dpkg shared / reference counted files and version match

* Guillem Jover , 2012-02-10, 23:56: [ Obviously this “summary” could be considered biased, but I do think the facts presented are accurate. ] Well, biased in an euphemism here... The two reasons for the shared / reference counted files (refcnt from now on) implementation in dpkg have been:

Re: DEP-5 and files with white spaces

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 6:50 PM, Adam Borowski wrote: > Of course, it's source packages that matter, can't check them that easily. > Could someone who has all the sources downloaded and unpacked check?  My box > that has them decided to not heed wake-on-lan. Just look at the Contents-source files

Re: DEP-5 and files with white spaces

* Paul Wise , 2012-02-11, 08:35: Of course, it's source packages that matter, can't check them that easily. Could someone who has all the sources downloaded and unpacked check?  My box that has them decided to not heed wake-on-lan. Just look at the Contents-source files: ftp://ftp.debian.org/

Re: Endianness of data files in MultiArch

On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 00:14, Osamu Aoki wrote: > [...] > > Just think any phrase data with its content size in 16bit integer. > > I have bigger example :-) > > ipadic: Uncompressed size: 44.5 M > > This one, I made them arch:any to build many binary packages.  Similar > packages use install time

Re: Summary: dpkg shared / reference counted files and version match

Hi, Jakub Wilk wrote: > How about: > * Because this the obvious and elegant way of doing things. It makes > multiarchification easy for packagers, and invisible for uses, > including those users who don't care about multi-arch (unless they > rely on paths to the libraries, which they never should

Re: Summary: dpkg shared / reference counted files and version match

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 06:56:00PM -0600, Jonathan Nieder wrote: > Could you elaborate on this? > As long as dependencies are accurate, I don't see how allowing > co-installation of the same package for two different architectures at > different versions is any more complicated than pinned to the

Re: Summary: dpkg shared / reference counted files and version match

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 11:56:20PM +0100, Guillem Jover wrote: > [ Obviously this “summary” could be considered biased, but I do think > the facts presented are accurate. ] > The two reasons for the shared / reference counted files (refcnt from > now on) implementation in dpkg have been: Well

Re: Use of the first person in messages from the computer

I agree with the debian-l10n-english position that first person is inappropriate in debconf questions; we should not personify computers. However: On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 02:11:38PM +, MJ Ray wrote: > > My reviewer also seems to think there is (sometimes?) something wrong > > with the use of

Re: Summary: dpkg shared / reference counted files and version match

Steve Langasek writes: > On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 06:56:00PM -0600, Jonathan Nieder wrote: >> I agree that the extra work of removing "multi-arch: same" for existing >> -dev packages that have been converted is a major downside. And on the >> other hand, the need throughout Debian infrastructure

Re: Endianness of data files in MultiArch

Aron Xu writes: > This trick is broken. Dpkg doesn't have similar features like `rpm -V` > at present, which verifies if files on disk are identical to what was > installed. That's what debsums does. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) -- To UNSUBS

Re: Endianness of data files in MultiArch

On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 09:36, Russ Allbery wrote: > Aron Xu writes: > >> This trick is broken. Dpkg doesn't have similar features like `rpm -V` >> at present, which verifies if files on disk are identical to what was >> installed. > > That's what debsums does. > Thanks for updating me! -- R

Re: Summary: dpkg shared / reference counted files and version match

Guillem Jover wrote: > Descriptions are only downloaded once nowadays. Not actually true; apt-get update downloads all package descriptions without even pdiffs nowadays, every time there's a change to any single description. Get:22 http://ftp.nl.debian.org unstable/main Translation-en [3,882 kB]

Re: severity for bugs in ignoring TMP/TMPDIR?

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Javier Fernandez-Sanguino wrote: > If you (or the maintainer) review the code or analyse the program's > behaviour and it is using *fixed* (i.e. not random) filenames for the > temporary files or for the directories they are created in (/tmp or > /var/tmp), you mig

Re: severity for bugs in ignoring TMP/TMPDIR?

Paul Wise writes: > On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Javier Fernandez-Sanguino wrote: >> If you (or the maintainer) review the code or analyse the program's >> behaviour and it is using *fixed* (i.e. not random) filenames for the >> temporary files or for the directories they are created in (/tmp

Re: DEP-5 and files with white spaces

Le Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 10:05:55AM -0800, Russ Allbery a écrit : > Jakub Wilk writes: > > * Russ Allbery , 2012-02-09, 23:05: > > >> Note that another case that I don't think has been discussed, but which > >> is probably more common than embedded quote marks, is a filename that's > >> invalid UT

Re: severity for bugs in ignoring TMP/TMPDIR?

On Fri, 2012-02-10 at 18:53 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Paul Wise writes: > > On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Javier Fernandez-Sanguino wrote: > > >> If you (or the maintainer) review the code or analyse the program's > >> behaviour and it is using *fixed* (i.e. not random) filenames for the >

Re: severity for bugs in ignoring TMP/TMPDIR?

Ben Hutchings writes: > The test should be for non-random names *or* missing O_EXCL. Use of an > entirely predictable name with O_EXCL allows a DoS and use of a > pseudo-random name without O_EXCL may still be exploitable for > overwriting other files if the attacker can try repeatedly. Sometim

Re: severity for bugs in ignoring TMP/TMPDIR?

On Sat, 11 Feb 2012, Russ Allbery wrote: > Sometimes there are no good options other than using O_EXCL with a > predictable name because the name is used as a rendezvous point. This is > the case in some (non-default) configurations for Kerberos tickets, for > example. Why would /tmp be a good o

Re: severity for bugs in ignoring TMP/TMPDIR?

Russell Coker writes: > On Sat, 11 Feb 2012, Russ Allbery wrote: >> Sometimes there are no good options other than using O_EXCL with a >> predictable name because the name is used as a rendezvous point. This >> is the case in some (non-default) configurations for Kerberos tickets, >> for exampl

Re: Endianness of data files in MultiArch

Hi, On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 08:40:35AM +0800, Aron Xu wrote: > On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 00:14, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > [...] > > > > Just think any phrase data with its content size in 16bit integer. > > > > I have bigger example :-) > > > > ipadic: Uncompressed size: 44.5 M > > > > This one, I made

Re: Use of the first person in messages from the computer

Quoting Steve Langasek (vor...@debian.org): > I categorically reject the notion that removing second-person usage from our > debconf questions is at all beneficial. And when you fix non-problems in > your language, you almost invariably make things worse by reducing clarity > or increasing verbos