Re: many packages fail to build twice in a row again

2011-12-21 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 10:01:44PM +0200, Peter Eisentraut a écrit : > With recent dpkg(-source) changes, many packages are again failing to > build twice in a row, because of uncommitted upstream changes. Fixing > this was a lenny release goal, maybe it should be one again?!? Most > importantly,

Re: many packages fail to build twice in a row again

2011-12-21 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 20/12/11 at 23:16 +, brian m. carlson wrote: > On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 09:36:47PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > On 20/12/11 at 22:01 +0200, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > > > With recent dpkg(-source) changes, many packages are again failing to > > > build twice in a row, because of uncommitte

Re: from / to /usr/: a summary

2011-12-21 Thread Tanguy Ortolo
Enrico Weigelt, 2011-12-21 05:35+0100: > The reasons for that separation in FHS are far more than just > historical slowless/expensiveness of larger spindles. > > / should only contain things needed for boot up into singleuser, > /usr should hold all the rest. I tend to agree. At least, this is h

Re: from / to /usr/: a summary

2011-12-21 Thread Russell Coker
On Wed, 21 Dec 2011, Tanguy Ortolo wrote: > I tend to agree. At least, this is how I interpret the FHS, and it seems > appropriate to me. Although it may not be useful in most cases, I do not > see it as harmful. The harm is if it takes us extra development time because other distributions don't

Re: from / to /usr/: a summary

2011-12-21 Thread Stephan Seitz
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 09:55:23PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: The harm is if it takes us extra development time because other distributions don't support it, provide configuration options for it, or test it. Well, this happens with other things as well. There was a time, when Debian was the

Re: from / to /usr/: a summary

2011-12-21 Thread Russell Coker
On Wed, 21 Dec 2011, Stephan Seitz wrote: > True, but / as emergency system is still a valid reason. That’s why > I keep / and /boot outside LVM, so that I can repair/rename/change the > LVM system. I did this more than once. When was the last time you needed to do that? AFAIK the only reason

Re: many packages fail to build twice in a row again

2011-12-21 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Dienstag, den 20.12.2011, 21:36 +0100 schrieb Lucas Nussbaum: > On 20/12/11 at 22:01 +0200, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > > With recent dpkg(-source) changes, many packages are again failing to > > build twice in a row, because of uncommitted upstream changes. Fixing > > this was a lenny relea

Re: Bug#652275: Guided partitioning should not offer separate /usr, /var, and /tmp partitions; leave that to manual partitioning

2011-12-21 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Steve Langasek writes: > On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 07:32:35PM +0100, Michael Biebl wrote: >> On 16.12.2011 18:38, Joey Hess wrote: >> > Christian PERRIER wrote: >> >> I'm inclined to follow this advice and would indeed propose that the >> >> "atomic" partman-auto recipe is kept, however without a s

Re: Bug#652275: Guided partitioning should not offer separate /usr, /var, and /tmp partitions; leave that to manual partitioning

2011-12-21 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Josselin Mouette writes: > Le samedi 17 décembre 2011 à 17:42 +0800, Thomas Goirand a écrit : >> I do recommend a separate /usr to anyone. It's *not* safe to say that, >> and I know many people that agree with me. To me, it has, and still is, >> the best choice. You have no rights to arbitrar

Re: Bug#652275: Guided partitioning should not offer separate /usr, /var, and /tmp partitions; leave that to manual partitioning

2011-12-21 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 22 Dec 2011, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > PS: I myself like a seperate /usr but I wouldn't use it for my parents. > I do want a seperate /var and /home for them though so they can't DOS > the system by filling up their home. How would filling up /home DOS the system? The only common pro

Re: Bug#652275: Guided partitioning should not offer separate /usr, /var, and /tmp partitions; leave that to manual partitioning

2011-12-21 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Russell Coker writes: > On Sun, 18 Dec 2011, Josselin Mouette wrote: >> > Doing this has many advantage. Like, if your laptop has to unexpectedly >> > reboot (like when you inadvertently removed power cord when batteries >> > were not plugged, which happens often in real life), having separated

Re: Bug#652275: Guided partitioning should not offer separate /usr, /var, and /tmp partitions; leave that to manual partitioning

2011-12-21 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Roger Leigh writes: > On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 06:48:53PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Josh Triplett writes: >> >> > I disagree; I think it leads to a significant burden. Having /var >> > separate requires pre-determining an appropriate size for it, and that >> > will vary wildly betwe

Re: Bug#652275: Guided partitioning should not offer separate /usr, /var, and /tmp partitions; leave that to manual partitioning

2011-12-21 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 22 Dec 2011, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Also / and /usr can be read-only and definetly should be on a systems > likely to have power outages like laptops. And with a read-only > partition you have neither fsck nor journal replay. You don't have a fsck if the time/count for a fsck hasn'

Re: from / to /usr/: a summary

2011-12-21 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Darren Salt writes: > I demand that Ben Hutchings may or may not have written... > >> On Sat, 2011-12-17 at 20:42 +, Philip Hands wrote: >> We're now debating what, if any, effort we should make to continue to >> support running init scripts without /usr mounted. There is also >> discussion

Re: many packages fail to build twice in a row again

2011-12-21 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Lucas Nussbaum writes: > On 20/12/11 at 23:16 +, brian m. carlson wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 09:36:47PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: >> > On 20/12/11 at 22:01 +0200, Peter Eisentraut wrote: >> > > With recent dpkg(-source) changes, many packages are again failing to >> > > build twice

Re: many packages fail to build twice in a row again

2011-12-21 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Charles Plessy writes: > Le Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 10:01:44PM +0200, Peter Eisentraut a écrit : >> With recent dpkg(-source) changes, many packages are again failing to >> build twice in a row, because of uncommitted upstream changes. Fixing >> this was a lenny release goal, maybe it should be on

Erlang transition to R15B

2011-12-21 Thread Sergei Golovan
Hi! As the new Erlang R15B is out I'd like to upload it to unstable. There are a few backwardly incompatible changes, so it's better to test whether the packages which reverse-depend on Erlang work successfully with R15B. The packages which require testing are: ejabberd (certainly will not work,

Bug#652891: ITP: nerdtree -- Nerdtree is a vim plugin which gives a tree view of all the directories

2011-12-21 Thread medhamsh
Package: nerdtree Severity: wishlist Owner: medhamsh * Package name: nerdtree Version : 4.1.0 Upstream Author : Marty Grenfell * URL : http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=1658 * License : (Public Domain) Programming Lang: (Ruby) Description

Re: Erlang transition to R15B

2011-12-21 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Sergei Golovan (21/12/2011): > Erlang R15B is already in experimental, so please, test and modify > your packages if necessary. I'd like to upload R15B into unstable by > the end of December. I suggest you get in touch with the release team to plan this transition. Mraw, KiBi. signature.asc De

Re: Erlang transition to R15B

2011-12-21 Thread Sergei Golovan
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Sergei Golovan (21/12/2011): >> Erlang R15B is already in experimental, so please, test and modify >> your packages if necessary. I'd like to upload R15B into unstable by >> the end of December. > > I suggest you get in touch with the rele

Re: Bug#652275: Guided partitioning should not offer separate /usr, /var, and /tmp partitions; leave that to manual partitioning

2011-12-21 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Josh Triplett writes: > On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 06:48:53PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Josh Triplett writes: >> > spools (/var/spool/mail), large websites in the default location >> > (/var/www), or large databases (/var/lib/postgresql or similar) will >> > need a lot more. The same a

Re: authbind (LD_PRELOAD) and multiarch

2011-12-21 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Raphael Hertzog writes: > On Mon, 12 Dec 2011, Ian Jackson wrote: >> * I will need to arrange for the same LD_PRELOAD setting to load the >>correct libauthbind for each arch. So I guess I do >>LD_PRELOAD=libauthbind.so.1 rather than supplying an absolute path, >>and trust ld.so to g

Re: authbind (LD_PRELOAD) and multiarch

2011-12-21 Thread Ian Jackson
Goswin von Brederlow writes ("Re: authbind (LD_PRELOAD) and multiarch"): > Raphael Hertzog writes: > > What does fakeroot do? My first idea would be to fail early and provide a > > useful error message. > > fake(ch)root sets LD_PRELOAD=lib.so and > LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/usr/lib/fakeroot:/usr/lib32/fa

Re: Bug#652891: ITP: nerdtree -- Nerdtree is a vim plugin which gives a tree view of all the directories

2011-12-21 Thread James McCoy
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 07:24:58PM +0530, medhamsh wrote: > * Package name: nerdtree The binary package should be vim-nerdtree. > Version : 4.1.0 > Upstream Author : Marty Grenfell > * URL : http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=1658 > * License : (P

Bug#652904: ITP: solarpowerlog -- logging photovoltaic data

2011-12-21 Thread Tobias Frost
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Tobias Frost * Package name: solarpowerlog Version : 0.21 Upstream Author : Tobias Frost * URL : http://solarpowerlog.coldtobi.de * License : GPL, LGPL Programming Lang: C++ Description : logging photovoltaic dat

Re: Bug#652891: ITP: nerdtree -- Nerdtree is a vim plugin which gives a tree view of all the directories

2011-12-21 Thread Medhamsh
Hi, Should I close this bug and resubmit with proper information? Thanks, -- Medhamsh On Wed, December 21, 2011 10:49 pm, James McCoy wrote: > On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 07:24:58PM +0530, medhamsh wrote: > >> * Package name: nerdtree >> > > The binary package should be vim-nerdtree. > > >> Vers

Re: Bug#652275: Guided partitioning should not offer separate /usr, /var, and /tmp partitions; leave that to manual partitioning

2011-12-21 Thread Josh Triplett
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 03:39:37PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Josh Triplett writes: > > > On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 06:48:53PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > >> Josh Triplett writes: > >> > spools (/var/spool/mail), large websites in the default location > >> > (/var/www), or large

Re: Bug#652275: Guided partitioning should not offer separate /usr, /var, and /tmp partitions; leave that to manual partitioning

2011-12-21 Thread The Fungi
On 2011-12-21 10:42:56 -0800 (-0800), Josh Triplett wrote: > People expect that they can use all the capacity of their disk > without having to take unusual steps like resizing partitions and > filesystems. After installing Debian on a 1TB drive, "df -h" > should say that you have just under 1TB of

Re: Bug#652891: ITP: nerdtree -- Nerdtree is a vim plugin which gives a tree view of all the directories

2011-12-21 Thread James McCoy
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 11:42:02PM +0530, Medhamsh wrote: > Should I close this bug and resubmit with > proper information? No, you don't need to. The intent of the bug (declaring your intent to package NERD tree) is still valid. These are just comments to keep in mind as you prepare the packagi

Re: Bug#652275: Guided partitioning should not offer separate /usr, /var, and /tmp partitions; leave that to manual partitioning

2011-12-21 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 07:08:17PM +, The Fungi wrote: > On 2011-12-21 10:42:56 -0800 (-0800), Josh Triplett wrote: > > People expect that they can use all the capacity of their disk > > without having to take unusual steps like resizing partitions and > > filesystems. After installing Debian o

Bug#652913: ITP: libdevel-stacktrace-withlexicals-perl -- Perl module for stack traces with access to lexical variables

2011-12-21 Thread USB
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Ernesto Hernández-Novich (USB)" * Package name: libdevel-stacktrace-withlexicals-perl Version : 0.10 Upstream Author : Shawn M Moore * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Devel-StackTrace-WithLexicals/ * License : Artist

Bug#652919: ITP: libdbix-connector-perl -- fast and safe DBI connection and transaction management

2011-12-21 Thread Florian Schlichting
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Florian Schlichting * Package name: libdbix-connector-perl Version : 0.47 Upstream Author : David E. Wheeler * URL : http://search.cpan.org/~dwheeler/DBIx-Connector-0.47/ * License : GPL-1+ or Artistic Programming Lang

Bug#652920: ITP: libalgorithm-combinatorics-perl -- module for the efficient generation of combinatorial sequences

2011-12-21 Thread Florian Schlichting
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Florian Schlichting * Package name: libalgorithm-combinatorics-perl Version : 0.26 Upstream Author : Xavier Noria (FXN), * URL : http://search.cpan.org/~fxn/Algorithm-Combinatorics-0.26/ * License : GPL-1+ or Artistic

Re: Bug#652275: Guided partitioning should not offer separate /usr, /var, and /tmp partitions; leave that to manual partitioning

2011-12-21 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 07:16:53PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: > On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 07:08:17PM +, The Fungi wrote: > > On 2011-12-21 10:42:56 -0800 (-0800), Josh Triplett wrote: > > > People expect that they can use all the capacity of their disk > > > without having to take unusual steps li

Bug#652945: Atrocious interactions between CDBS, libtool and source format 3.0 (quilt)

2011-12-21 Thread Steve McIntyre
Package: cdbs Version: 0.4.100 Severity: grave Justification: zero documentation, wasting hours of development time, causing many bugs I've just wasted multiple hours trying to fix up the mess in an NMU (#652369). That bug itself isn't necessarily caused by CDBS itself, but a lot of the time I've

Re: Bug#652011: general: Repeated pattern of FHS violation: Dependencies of /sbin and /bin, belong in /lib

2011-12-21 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Thu, 2011-12-15 at 13:43:19 -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Roger Leigh wrote: > > I think an important point to consider is that /usr would not > > disappear. It could be replaced by a symlink for new installs. > > This would permit older installs to continue to use /usr, but > > the files woul

Re: Bug#652275: Guided partitioning should not offer separate /usr, /var, and /tmp partitions; leave that to manual partitioning

2011-12-21 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 12/22/2011 02:42 AM, Josh Triplett wrote: > People expect that they can use all the capacity of their disk without > having to take unusual steps like resizing partitions and filesystems. > After installing Debian on a 1TB drive, "df -h" should say that you have > just under 1TB of free space, n

Bug#652954: ITP: logisim -- graphical tool for designing and simulating logic circuits

2011-12-21 Thread Vincent Cheng
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Vincent Cheng * Package name: logisim Version : 2.7.1 Upstream Author : Carl Burch * URL : http://ozark.hendrix.edu/~burch/logisim/ * License : GPL-2+ Programming Lang: Java Description : graphical tool for desig