Re: options: was Red Hat is moving from / to /usr/

2011-12-13 Thread Roger Leigh
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 06:55:18PM -0700, Gordon Haverland wrote: > I'm a UN*X dinosaur. I started using UN*X in 1984. > > I don't like this idea of folding /bin, /sbin, /usr/sbin into > /usr/bin. > > I think the reasons to segregate /bin, /sbin, /usr/bin, /usr/sbin > and anything in /usr/loca

Re: Getting dh_install to do what we need

2011-12-13 Thread Gergely Nagy
Joey Hess writes: > Gergely Nagy wrote: >> At the moment, I have something that works like this: >> >> , >> | #! /usr/bin/dh-exec-install >> | # The next one will simply echo it back to dh_install >> | source-file /dest-dir/ >> | >> | # This one will copy the file itself, following similar h

Bug#651928: ITP: python-commando -- simple wrapper for argparse that allows commands and arguments to be defined declaratively

2011-12-13 Thread Julien Danjou
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Julien Danjou * Package name: python-commando Version : 0.1.1a Upstream Author : Lakshmi Vyasarajan * URL : http://github.com/lakshmivyas/commando * License : MIT Programming Lang: Python Description : simple wrap

Re: Bug#651858: ITP: etm -- event and task manager using simple text files

2011-12-13 Thread Thomas Koch
Eike Nicklas: > * Package name: etm > Version : 883 > Upstream Author : Daniel Graham > * URL : http://www.duke.edu/~dgraham/ETM/ Hi, I couldn't find any version control system for this software and the versioning scheme seems weird. Could you be so kind to work this

Re: Bug#651858: ITP: etm -- event and task manager using simple text files

2011-12-13 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Thomas Koch [2011.12.13.1121 +0100]: > I couldn't find any version control system for this software and the > versioning scheme seems weird. What's weird? Are you missing a dot? All that matters is that it's increasing. ;) -- .''`. martin f. krafft Related projects: : :'

Re: Work-needing packages report for Dec 9, 2011

2011-12-13 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] (Marco d'Itri) > On Dec 09, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > > > Maybe we should consider closing those bugs after a while? While I'm > > Maybe we should ask the maintainers? > e.g. ppp still needs a lot of help. I don't doubt that the packages might still need help, but I don't think an RFH is g

Bug#651935: ITP: audioread -- Backend-agnostic audio decoding Python package

2011-12-13 Thread Simon Chopin
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Simon Chopin * Package name: audioread Version : x.y.z Upstream Author : Name * URL : http://www.example.org/ * License : MIT Programming Lang: Python Description : Backend-agnostic audio decoding Python package

Binary blobs in source packages

2011-12-13 Thread Thomas Koch
Hi, I just made a fool of myself on the simple-build-tool list by claiming that Debian would build scala without scala. I only checked debian/rules and debian/control and since scala is in main, I assumed that I must be right. However scala comes with a bytecode-compiled scala compiler in lib/ w

Re: Binary blobs in source packages

2011-12-13 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On Di, Dez 13, 2011 at 13:23:25 (CET), Thomas Koch wrote: > Hi, > > I just made a fool of myself on the simple-build-tool list by claiming that > Debian would build scala without scala. I only checked debian/rules and > debian/control and since scala is in main, I assumed that I must be right. >

Bug#651943: ITP: qastools -- collection of desktop tools for ALSA

2011-12-13 Thread Sebastian
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Sebastian H. * Package name: qastools Version : 0.16.0 Upstream Author : Sebastian Holtermann * URL : http://xwmw.org/qastools * License : GPL-3 Programming Lang: C++ Description : collection of desktop tools for

debian/copyright, DEP5 and SPDX

2011-12-13 Thread Simon Josefsson
I just stumbled upon this initiative: http://www.spdx.org/ It is a way to specify the licensing and copyright information (and more) for software packages. There is some overlap between debian/copyright file and especially the DEP5 format. Alas, the SPDX format is XML based, an example for GNU

Re: debian/copyright, DEP5 and SPDX

2011-12-13 Thread Michael Shuler
On 12/13/2011 09:17 AM, Simon Josefsson wrote: > Possibly DEP5-compliant files could be generated from SPDX files. This has come up in several DEP5 discussions over the past ~year, as well as several recent mentions: https://www.google.com/search?q=spdx+site%3Alists.debian.org -- Kind regards,

Re: Work-needing packages report for Dec 9, 2011

2011-12-13 Thread David Prévot
Le 13/12/2011 06:51, Tollef Fog Heen a écrit : > ]] (Marco d'Itri) > >> On Dec 09, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: >> >>> Maybe we should consider closing those bugs after a while? While I'm >> >> Maybe we should ask the maintainers? >> e.g. ppp still needs a lot of help. > > I don't doubt that the pac

Re: [Pkg-scala-maint] Binary blobs in source packages

2011-12-13 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
On 12/13/2011 01:23 PM, Thomas Koch wrote: > > So is it ok to ship binaries in the source package that are only > required during build? Can I do the same with simple-build-tool, > which requires itself to build? > Depends on the need. It is quite common for compilers to have some binaries to

Re: [Pkg-scala-maint] Binary blobs in source packages

2011-12-13 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 07:03:55PM +0100, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: > On 12/13/2011 01:23 PM, Thomas Koch wrote: > > So is it ok to ship binaries in the source package that are only > > required during build? Can I do the same with simple-build-tool, > > which requires itself to build? > Depends on t

Re: [Pkg-scala-maint] Binary blobs in source packages

2011-12-13 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
On 12/13/2011 07:26 PM, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 07:03:55PM +0100, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: >> On 12/13/2011 01:23 PM, Thomas Koch wrote: > >>> So is it ok to ship binaries in the source package that are only >>> required during build? Can I do the same with simple-build-tool, >

Re: [Pkg-scala-maint] Binary blobs in source packages

2011-12-13 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 07:29:23PM +0100, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: > > I think the traditional expectation here is that compilers will do > > their initial bootstrap using an out-of-archive binary, and that once > > in the archive, they'll be maintained using a self-build-depends > > instead. > You mea

Re: [Pkg-scala-maint] Binary blobs in source packages

2011-12-13 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Dienstag, den 13.12.2011, 19:29 +0100 schrieb Mehdi Dogguy: > You mean having a circular build-dependency? That isn't great :/ > I've seen some packages doing that (don't recall which right now) but > didn't like it, tbh. ghc does, for instance. Greetings, Joachim -- Joachim "nomeata"

Re: [Pkg-scala-maint] Binary blobs in source packages

2011-12-13 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 10:45:21AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 07:29:23PM +0100, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: > > > I think the traditional expectation here is that compilers will do > > > their initial bootstrap using an out-of-archive binary, and that once > > > in the archive,

Re: [Pkg-scala-maint] Binary blobs in source packages

2011-12-13 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
On 12/13/2011 07:26 PM, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 07:03:55PM +0100, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: >> On 12/13/2011 01:23 PM, Thomas Koch wrote: > >>> So is it ok to ship binaries in the source package that are only >>> required during build? Can I do the same with simple-build-tool,

Re: [Pkg-scala-maint] Binary blobs in source packages

2011-12-13 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2011-12-13, Joachim Breitner wrote: > Am Dienstag, den 13.12.2011, 19:29 +0100 schrieb Mehdi Dogguy: >> You mean having a circular build-dependency? That isn't great :/ >> I've seen some packages doing that (don't recall which right now) but >> didn't like it, tbh.=20 > ghc does, for instance.

Switching /etc/mtab to /proc/mounts and removing /lib/init/rw

2011-12-13 Thread Roger Leigh
Hi folks, The above have been mentioned a few times during the course of the year, but we're now at the point where all the prerequisites have been satisfied, and there are no blockers present to proceed. I've put a proposed set of packages at http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/sysvinit/ which I

Re: [Pkg-scala-maint] Binary blobs in source packages

2011-12-13 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 08:30:22PM +, Philipp Kern wrote: > But then I don't see how you could avoid circular build-dependencies > with compilers written in their own language. fpc/fp-compiler does the > same. You can avoid it by having a bootstrap compiler written in another suitable languag

Re: Switching /etc/mtab to /proc/mounts and removing /lib/init/rw

2011-12-13 Thread brian m. carlson
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 08:54:14PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: > If you have a few minutes to spare, some testing of the packages > would be appreciated, so make sure there are no corner cases we've > missed. Upgrading initscripts should result in /etc/mtab being > switched to a symlink at the next

Re: [Pkg-scala-maint] Binary blobs in source packages

2011-12-13 Thread Stéphane Glondu
Le 13/12/2011 21:30, Philipp Kern a écrit : > But then I don't see how you could avoid circular build-dependencies > with compilers written in their own language. fpc/fp-compiler does the > same. OCaml, F# (and Scala, it seems) do that by targetting a bytecode for which there exists an independen

Re: Switching /etc/mtab to /proc/mounts and removing /lib/init/rw

2011-12-13 Thread Roger Leigh
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 09:08:10PM +, brian m. carlson wrote: > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 08:54:14PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: > > If you have a few minutes to spare, some testing of the packages > > would be appreciated, so make sure there are no corner cases we've > > missed. Upgrading initscr

Re: Switching /etc/mtab to /proc/mounts and removing /lib/init/rw

2011-12-13 Thread Roger Leigh
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 09:32:40PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 09:08:10PM +, brian m. carlson wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 08:54:14PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: > > > If you have a few minutes to spare, some testing of the packages > > > would be appreciated, so mak

Managing left-over control files

2011-12-13 Thread Malte Forkel
Hi, I'm writing a transitional package to handle a software name change. The transitional package 'depends' on the new package, which itself 'replaces' the old package and takes over some of its control files. All other control files still belong to the transitional package after an upgrade. I ha

Bug#651998: ITP: v3c-2.4.0-01 -- v3c utility toolkit

2011-12-13 Thread Philip A. Ashmore
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Philip A. Ashmore" * Package name: v3c-2.4.0-01 Version : 2.4.0 Upstream Author : Philip Ashmore * URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/v3c/ * dsc file : http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/v/v3c/v3c_2.4.0-01-1

Re: Bug#651998: ITP: v3c-2.4.0-01 -- v3c utility toolkit

2011-12-13 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Philip A. Ashmore (13/12/2011): > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: "Philip A. Ashmore" > > * Package name: v3c-2.4.0-01 Certainly that's not the package name? Mraw, KiBi. signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Hardening release goal blocker

2011-12-13 Thread Kees Cook
Hi, So, recently it came to my attention that CDBS is not behaving very nicely with dpkg-buildflags, which is causing problems for us to meet the release goal of getting more packages built with compiler hardening enabled: https://wiki.debian.org/ReleaseGoals/SecurityHardeningBuildFlags Notably,

Re: Hardening release goal blocker

2011-12-13 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Hi, On 11-12-13 at 03:10pm, Kees Cook wrote: > Hi, > > So, recently it came to my attention that CDBS is not behaving very > nicely with dpkg-buildflags, which is causing problems for us to meet > the release goal of getting more packages built with compiler > hardening enabled: > https://wik

Bug#652011: general: Repeated pattern of FHS violation: Dependencies of /sbin and /bin, belong in /lib

2011-12-13 Thread Zachary Harris
Package: general Severity: serious Justification: Policy 10.1.1 My understanding of the FHS would be that if a library is a dependency of a binary in /bin or /sbin, then such library belongs in /lib, not /usr/lib. (If for some reason the library is also desired in /usr/lib then a sym link from /li

Re: Bug#652011: general: Repeated pattern of FHS violation: Dependencies of /sbin and /bin, belong in /lib

2011-12-13 Thread Russ Allbery
Zachary Harris writes: > My understanding of the FHS would be that if a library is a dependency > of a binary in /bin or /sbin, then such library belongs in /lib, not > /usr/lib. (If for some reason the library is also desired in /usr/lib > then a sym link from /lib to /usr/lib, but not the other