On 26/07/11 at 00:27 +0200, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote:
> Hi,
> I believe it's high time we start to providing Debian in form of official
> virtualisation images. In contrast to the ISOs currently provided it
> allows a quicker evaluation/testing of Debian (and can also be very
> useful for testing (e
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 11:46:47PM +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> Anyway, qemu-img can convert a raw disk image
> into many other formats. So you generate one raw image, and then
> convert it to any other formats using qemu-img.
Also, according to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_disk_image#Vir
Le 26/07/2011 09:28, Lucas Nussbaum a écrit :
On 26/07/11 at 00:27 +0200, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote:
Hi,
I believe it's high time we start to providing Debian in form of official
virtualisation images. In contrast to the ISOs currently provided it
allows a quicker evaluation/testing of Debian (and
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Le 26/07/2011 09:28, Lucas Nussbaum a écrit :
On 26/07/11 at 00:27 +0200, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote:
Hi,
I believe it's high time we start to providing Debian in form of official
virtualisation images. In contrast to the ISOs currently provided it
allows a quicker evaluation/testing of Debian (and
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 12:27:09AM +0200, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote:
> I think it's sufficient for starters to provide images for stable
> (they can be updated for every few point updates if needed).
>
> What virtualisation solutions should be supported?
As far as I understand it, a VM is usually t
OoO En cette matinée ensoleillée du mardi 26 juillet 2011, vers 09:28,
Lucas Nussbaum disait :
>> What virtualisation solutions should be supported?
>> - Virtual Box seems like a natural candidate since it's free and
>> included since Squeeze.
>> - Vmware has a significant installed base and is
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 12:27:09AM +0200, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote:
> I believe it's high time we start to providing Debian in form of official
> virtualisation images
Yes, absolutely. These days having virtual images is yet another way of
distributing an operating system and I think we should do t
Hi there!
On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 00:46:47 +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 12:27:09AM +0200, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote:
>> I believe it's high time we start to providing Debian in form of official
>> virtualisation images.
While the Debian Events team mainly needs a BabelBox, it
On 07/26/2011 02:00 AM, Tony Godshall wrote:
>>> What virtualisation solutions should be supported?
>>
>>> - Vmware has a significant installed base and is relevant, although
>>> proprietary
>>> - Microsoft Virtual PC is likely also needed
>>> - Citrix XenServer?
>>
>> Would this require the Debi
Jon Dowland wrote:
> The VM definition file is trickier. qemu/kvm essentially don't have
one; you
> would supply command-line arguments to the tool.
virsh/libvirt/virt-manager et
> al sitting on top of KVM have an XML definition. VMWare uses an XML
definition.
> I suspect VirtualBox does as well.
On mar., 2011-07-26 at 11:15 +0200, Luca Capello wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 00:46:47 +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 12:27:09AM +0200, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote:
> >> I believe it's high time we start to providing Debian in form of
> official
> >> virtualisation images.
>
Since others have replied regarding the content of the DEP-5 file, I'll focus
on DEP-5 parser
On Wednesday 20 July 2011 15:39:09 Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
> Also, the DEP5 checker has no clue about public-domain as a short
> license either:
>
> $> config-edit -application dpkg-copyright -ui none
Hi all,
One big problem with existing live images, VM images, "cloud" images
and images for mobile/tablet devices outside of Debian has been the
provision of OpenSSH private keys within the image file. Obviously
this is a huge fail.
I was talking with Daniel Baumann about how Debian Live approach
On 11-07-26 at 12:03pm, Paul Wise wrote:
> One big problem with existing live images, VM images, "cloud" images
> and images for mobile/tablet devices outside of Debian has been the
> provision of OpenSSH private keys within the image file. Obviously
> this is a huge fail.
>
> I was talking wit
Paul Wise schrieb:
> So, I was wondering if anyone has any ideas on this topic?
I would suggest a package such as "debian-oem-prep", which
contains an init script, which tests a file such a
/etc/wipe-all-traces-on-next-boot. If that files exists, all
sensitive host data like existing SSH hosts i
On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 00:27 +0200, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote:
> Hi,
> I believe it's high time we start to providing Debian in form of official
> virtualisation images. [...]
> Do people think this is relevant and are willing to work on providing
> one of the images? If so, we could arrange a BoF at
On 07/26/2011 12:03 PM, Paul Wise wrote:
> I was talking with Daniel Baumann about how Debian Live approaches
> this problem and I think he said Debian Live has some scripts to
> remove them after installation.
no rocket science involved, we simply just remove them during build
(live-build) and cr
On 07/26/2011 12:23 PM, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote:
> I would suggest a package such as "debian-oem-prep", which
> contains an init script, which tests a file such a
> /etc/wipe-all-traces-on-next-boot. If that files exists, all
> sensitive host data like existing SSH hosts is being removed,
> and de
Daniel Baumann, le Tue 26 Jul 2011 12:30:29 +0200, a écrit :
> On 07/26/2011 12:23 PM, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote:
> > I would suggest a package such as "debian-oem-prep", which
> > contains an init script, which tests a file such a
> > /etc/wipe-all-traces-on-next-boot. If that files exists, all
> >
On 07/26/2011 12:33 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Well, isn't it simply about not configuring a few packages?
no; see openssh-server.postinst, in the discussed use-case you want to
run everything in there except the creation of the host keys.
the only left problem to work out is to define a way so
26.07.2011 02:46, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 12:27:09AM +0200, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote:
>> What virtualisation solutions should be supported?
>> - Virtual Box seems like a natural candidate since it's free and
>> included since Squeeze.
>> - Vmware has a significant installed
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 02:34:18PM +0400, Michael Tokarev wrote:
> The only problem is that raw images may be large(ish). For that,
> create as small as possible file, to fit stuff almost exactly,
> and recommend resizing it. Maybe... :)
I'm fairly sure that compressed RAW is not much larger tha
Hi Dominique,
> To satisfy DEP5 model constraints, you need to spell out the terms of the
> licence you want to use. Etheir as a "License: public-domain" stand-alone
> section or as text in the File section (after the License: line in the file
> section).
Does that mean that License: PD won't wor
On 07/26/2011 12:27 AM, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote:
> I believe it's high time we start to providing Debian in form of official
> virtualisation images.
we have worked on that with debian-live (both producing live and
'non-live' images; the only difference is that live-* is not installed
in the rootf
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On Tuesday 26 July 2011 13:12:53 Jonathan Yu wrote:
> Does that mean that License: PD won't work with config-edit?
No.
Here's an example that works (PD license defined in Files section):
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Reinhard Tartler schrieb:
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 16:02:42 (CEST), Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote:
>
>> Package: wnpp
>> Severity: wishlist
>> Owner: Moritz Muehlenhoff
>>
>> * Package name: dvdstyler
>> Version : 1.8.4.2
>> Upstream Author : Alex Thuering
>> * URL : http
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 17:44:55 (CEST), Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote:
> Reinhard Tartler schrieb:
>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 16:02:42 (CEST), Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote:
>>
>>> Package: wnpp
>>> Severity: wishlist
>>> Owner: Moritz Muehlenhoff
>>>
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>>> Version
Karl Goetz schrieb:
>> I think it's sufficient for starters to provide images for stable
>> (they can be updated for every few point updates if needed).
>>=20
>> What virtualisation solutions should be supported?
>
>> - Vmware has a significant installed base and is relevant, although
>> propri
On 07/26/2011 09:53 AM, Olivier Bonvalet wrote:
> Le 26/07/2011 09:28, Lucas Nussbaum a écrit :
>> On 26/07/11 at 00:27 +0200, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> I believe it's high time we start to providing Debian in form of
>>> official
>>> virtualisation images. In contrast to the ISOs curren
> Moritz Mühlenhoff writes:
> Hi, I believe it's high time we start to providing Debian in form of
> official virtualisation images. In contrast to the ISOs currently
> provided it allows a quicker evaluation/testing of Debian (and can
> also be very useful for testing (e. g. someone wro
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> Lucas Nussbaum disait=C2=A0:
>
>>> What virtualisation solutions should be support
Michael Tokarev schrieb:
>>> What virtualisation solutions should be supported?
>>> - Virtual Box seems like a natural candidate since it's free and
>>> included since Squeeze.
>>> - Vmware has a significant installed base and is relevant, although
>>> proprietary
>>> - Microsoft Virtual PC i
debian schrieb:
> For now I would recommend against pre-configured Citrix XenServer
> releases. I am a Citrix CCNA and I would not recommend that for this
> very reason. Debian is best set up in Citrix Xenserver from scratch.
Is there a technical reason or is this personal preference?
The i
Lars Wirzenius schrieb:
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 12:27:09AM +0200, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote:
>> What virtualisation solutions should be supported?
>> - Virtual Box seems like a natural candidate since it's free and
>> included since Squeeze.
>> - Vmware has a significant installed base and is re
Stefano Zacchiroli schrieb:
> Additionally, I think we should also consider getting contacts with
> "cloud providers" (e.g. Amazon, as mentioned in this thread) and have
> them offer Debian images provided by us. Some of those provider already
> offer, possibly via third parties, Debian virtualiz
Ian Campbell schrieb:
> On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 00:27 +0200, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I believe it's high time we start to providing Debian in form of official
>> virtualisation images. [...]
>> Do people think this is relevant and are willing to work on providing
>> one of the images? If
Jon Dowland schrieb:
> Perhaps a Debian web service could spit out custom VM definitions alongside
> the
> image file in a chosen disk format for users on-demand?
>
> For starters, compressed RAW disk format is perhaps the most useful disk image
> format (can be imported into virtually anything)
Daniel Baumann schrieb:
> On 07/26/2011 12:27 AM, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote:
>> I believe it's high time we start to providing Debian in form of official
>> virtualisation images.
>
> we have worked on that with debian-live (both producing live and
> 'non-live' images; the only difference is that li
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(CCed people involved in the two following URLs:)
http://bugs.debian.org/592550
http://wiki.debian.org/Cloud/AmazonEC2Image
Le Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 09:28:29AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum a écrit :
> >
> > What virtualisation solutions should be supported?
> > - Virtual Box seems like a natural candidat
Hello Charles,
Some unofficial Debian AMIs are already being produced, see
http://wiki.debian.org/Cloud/AmazonEC2Image
I have updated that list with the most recently created images in all
regions. Thanks for reminding me of it
To enable secure SSH login, booting after kernel update, an
On Jul 26, 2011, at 19:38, Charles Plessy wrote:
> Le Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 09:28:29AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum a écrit :
>>>
>>> What virtualisation solutions should be supported?
>>> - Virtual Box seems like a natural candidate since it's free and
>>> included since Squeeze.
>>> - Vmware has a sign
> Daniel Baumann writes:
> On 07/26/2011 12:33 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote:
>> Well, isn't it simply about not configuring a few packages?
> no; see openssh-server.postinst, in the discussed use-case you want
> to run everything in there except the creation of the host keys.
> the onl
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 10:41:07AM +0700, Ivan Shmakov wrote:
> AIUI, the .postinst scripts may be re-executed with
> dpkg-reconfigure(8).
[...]
In fact, for years I've relied on precisely this behavior to
regenerate SSH host keys when cloning machines (virtual or
physical)...
sudo rm /etc/ssh
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