Re: Static libraries in development packages

2011-04-16 Thread Steve M. Robbins
> As I've come to understanding, nowadays many libraries doesn't allow > trivial static linkage, I don't follow; it's generally as simple as using -static on the link line. Pretty trivial. > and that it's generally not recommended to > link statically in packages. That is completely separate f

Re: Default size limits for /run (/var/run) and /run/lock (/var/lock)

2011-04-16 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 13 avril 2011 à 10:51 +0100, Philip Hands a écrit : > Therefore, in the multi-partition setup, I think we should also default > to having /tmp on tmpfs. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=245465 -- .''`. Josselin Mouette : :' : `. `' “If you behave this way beca

Re: Question about the version of debian

2011-04-16 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 13 avril 2011 à 14:02 +0100, Ben Hutchings a écrit : > On Wed, 2011-04-13 at 20:47 +0800, YANG,Chao wrote: > > dpkg --print-architecture shows > > i386. > > > > However, uname -a shows > > x86-64 > > > > what does this mean? > > It means Asias He was right. And this is a perfectly

Re: Default size limits for /run (/var/run) and /run/lock (/var/lock)

2011-04-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Roger Leigh writes: > On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 04:41:56PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Roger Leigh writes: >> >> > If it wasn't already clear, having /tmp as a tmpfs is a >> > /configurable option/, and it is /not/ the default (except when >> > root is read-only (ro) in fstab). >> >> I

Re: Static libraries in development packages

2011-04-16 Thread Andreas Metzler
Steve M. Robbins wrote: >> As I've come to understanding, nowadays many libraries doesn't allow >> trivial static linkage, > I don't follow; it's generally as simple as using -static on > the link line. Pretty trivial. [...] Unless your are trying to link against a library that uses other libra

Re: Static libraries in development packages

2011-04-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"Steve M. Robbins" writes: >> As I've come to understanding, nowadays many libraries doesn't allow >> trivial static linkage, > > I don't follow; it's generally as simple as using -static on > the link line. Pretty trivial. Which a) might not be simple to get the build system to do and b) is fa

Re: /run support for wheezy: final (I hope) call for testing

2011-04-16 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On pe, 2011-04-15 at 21:58 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > Symlinks in system path components REALLY are best avoided. Out of curiosity: why? -- Blog/wiki/website hosting with ikiwiki (free for free software): http://www.branchable.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-req

Bug#622968: ITP: libcitygml -- a small and easy to use C++ library for parsing CityGML files

2011-04-16 Thread YunQiang Su
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: YunQiang Su -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 * Package name: libcitygml Version : 0.1.4 Upstream Author : jpouder...@gmail.com * URL : http://code.google.com/p/libcitygml/ * License : LGPL Programming L

Re: Default size limits for /run (/var/run) and /run/lock (/var/lock)

2011-04-16 Thread Roger Leigh
On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 09:35:53AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Roger Leigh writes: > > > On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 04:41:56PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > >> Roger Leigh writes: > >> > >> > If it wasn't already clear, having /tmp as a tmpfs is a > >> > /configurable option/, and

Re: /run support for wheezy: final (I hope) call for testing

2011-04-16 Thread Roger Leigh
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 09:58:58PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Sat, 16 Apr 2011, Roger Leigh wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 08:59:01PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > > On Fri, 15 Apr 2011, Roger Leigh wrote: > > > > { find var/run/ ! -type d -print0; \ > > > >

Bug#622972: ITP: qonjugator -- Qonjugator conjugates verbs in different languages

2011-04-16 Thread Filippo Rusconi
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Filippo Rusconi * Package name: qonjugator Version : 0.17 Upstream Author : Glad Deschrijver * URL : http://qt-apps.org/content/show.php/Qonjugator?content=112575 * License : GPL Programming Lang: C++ Description

Re: Static libraries in development packages

2011-04-16 Thread Russell Coker
On Sat, 16 Apr 2011, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Static linking of libc6 basically never makes sense. The same can be > said for many other libs. Yes, static linking of libc6 is a corner case that makes entirely statically linked programs a bad idea. However mostly statically linked programs

Re: Default size limits for /run (/var/run) and /run/lock (/var/lock)

2011-04-16 Thread Philip Hands
On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 09:17:04 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le mercredi 13 avril 2011 à 10:51 +0100, Philip Hands a écrit : > > Therefore, in the multi-partition setup, I think we should also default > > to having /tmp on tmpfs. > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=245465 Ah,

Only forbid use of old alternatives to /run in wheezy+1?

2011-04-16 Thread Thomas Hood
While I applaud the introduction of /run, I have some concerns about how quickly users of alternatives to /run could be required to switch to the new location. Consider the following scenario. Package P is using /lib/init/rw. At some point the new version of initscripts is installed. The latter

Re: Bug#622922: ITP: apparmor -- AppArmor Mandatory Access Control system userspace tools

2011-04-16 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2011-04-15, Kees Cook wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Kees Cook > > * Package name: apparmor > Version : 2.6.1 > Upstream Author : AppArmor project members > * URL : http://apparmor.net/ > * License : GPL-2, LGPL-2 > Programming Lang:

Bug#622982: ITP: naev-data -- 2D space trading combat game

2011-04-16 Thread Vincent Cheng
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Vincent Cheng * Package name: naev-data Version : 0.4.2 Upstream Author : Edgar Simo "bobbens" Nikola Whallon <6.satur...@gmail.com> Josiah Schwartfeger

Re: Default size limits for /run (/var/run) and /run/lock (/var/lock)

2011-04-16 Thread rleigh
On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 11:31:08AM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: > On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 09:17:04 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > Le mercredi 13 avril 2011 à 10:51 +0100, Philip Hands a écrit : > > > Therefore, in the multi-partition setup, I think we should also default > > > to having /tmp on tmp

Re: Only forbid use of old alternatives to /run in wheezy+1?

2011-04-16 Thread rleigh
On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 12:39:03PM +0200, Thomas Hood wrote: > While I applaud the introduction of /run, I have some concerns about > how quickly users of alternatives to /run could be required to switch > to the new location. > > Consider the following scenario. > > Package P is using /lib/init/

Re: Static libraries in development packages

2011-04-16 Thread Steve M. Robbins
On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 09:55:34AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > "Steve M. Robbins" writes: > > >> As I've come to understanding, nowadays many libraries doesn't allow > >> trivial static linkage, > > > > I don't follow; it's generally as simple as using -static on > > the link line. Pret

Re: Static libraries in development packages

2011-04-16 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Russell Coker Hi, | After Lenny was released I developed fixes for a number of serious library | bugs that caused an important application written for one of my clients to | crash. As some of the deployment platforms couldn't be guaranteed to have the | patched versions of the libraries

Re: Question about the version of debian

2011-04-16 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sat, 2011-04-16 at 09:19 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le mercredi 13 avril 2011 à 14:02 +0100, Ben Hutchings a écrit : > > On Wed, 2011-04-13 at 20:47 +0800, YANG,Chao wrote: > > > dpkg --print-architecture shows > > > i386. > > > > > > However, uname -a shows > > > x86-64 > > > > > > wha

Re: Bug#622922: ITP: apparmor -- AppArmor Mandatory Access Control system userspace tools

2011-04-16 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sat, 2011-04-16 at 11:17 +, Philipp Kern wrote: > On 2011-04-15, Kees Cook wrote: > > Package: wnpp > > Severity: wishlist > > Owner: Kees Cook > > > > * Package name: apparmor > > Version : 2.6.1 > > Upstream Author : AppArmor project members > > * URL : http:/

Re: Question about the version of debian

2011-04-16 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 04:09:45PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Sat, 2011-04-16 at 09:19 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > Le mercredi 13 avril 2011 à 14:02 +0100, Ben Hutchings a écrit : > > > On Wed, 2011-04-13 at 20:47 +0800, YANG,Chao wrote: > > > > dpkg --print-architecture shows > > > >

Bug#623016: ITP: python-tidylib -- Python wrapper for HTML Tidy (tidylib)

2011-04-16 Thread Janos Guljas
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Janos Guljas * Package name: python-tidylib Version : 0.2.1 Upstream Author : Jason Stitt * URL : http://countergram.com/open-source/pytidylib/ * License : MIT/X11 (BSD like) Programming Lang: Python Description

Re: Only forbid use of old alternatives to /run in wheezy+1?

2011-04-16 Thread Edward Allcutt
On Sat, 16 Apr 2011, rleigh wrote: We haven't made any plans to remove it yet. We'll look more closely at the best way to do that once all the users are moved over. Given the small number, it's quite likely this won't take very long. If it turns out that there are other users of /lib/init/rw,

Re: Only forbid use of old alternatives to /run in wheezy+1?

2011-04-16 Thread Roger Leigh
On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 05:58:19PM +0100, Edward Allcutt wrote: > On Sat, 16 Apr 2011, rleigh wrote: > >We haven't made any plans to remove it yet. We'll look more closely > >at the best way to do that once all the users are moved over. Given > >the small number, it's quite likely this won't take

GRUPO CBES ENFERMAGEM DO TRABALHO (TURMA CONFIRMADAS)

2011-04-16 Thread GRUPO CBES
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Re: network-manager as default? No!

2011-04-16 Thread Stephan Seitz
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 03:32:18PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: This was stated in the original proposal: ifupdown is not event-based and does not integrate correctly with modern boot systems. So what? ifupdown is working on most setups without problems with VLANs bonds, or bridges out of th

Bug#623022: ITP: expeyes -- hardware & software framework for developing science experiments

2011-04-16 Thread Georges Khaznadar
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Georges Khaznadar * Package name: expeyes Version : 1.0.0 Upstream Author : Ajith Kumar B.P * URL : http://expeyes.in/ * License : GPL-3 Programming Lang: Python Description : hardware & software framework for d

Re: Static libraries in development packages

2011-04-16 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 09:47:08AM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote: > Steve M. Robbins wrote: > >> As I've come to understanding, nowadays many libraries doesn't allow > >> trivial static linkage, > > I don't follow; it's generally as simple as using -static on > > the link line. Pretty trivial. >

Re: network-manager as default? No!

2011-04-16 Thread Stephan Seitz
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 03:23:32PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: NM may be good for laptops, so put it in the laptop task and leave the rest alone in the default installation. And keep the installer unable to do things as widespread as WPA? And keep it unable to generate a proper configuration

Re: Only forbid use of old alternatives to /run in wheezy+1?

2011-04-16 Thread Edward Allcutt
On Sat, 16 Apr 2011, Roger Leigh wrote: On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 05:58:19PM +0100, Edward Allcutt wrote: I suggest: - on upgrade, bind mount or symlink /run/init -> /lib/init/rw - on boot, after mounting /run, mkdir /run/init; ln -s /run/init /lib/init/rw Or in other words - exactly like we're

Re: network-manager as default? No!

2011-04-16 Thread Stephan Seitz
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 09:47:54PM +0200, Bjørn Mork wrote: protocols. I would have preferred something like some routers do: iface eth0 address .. ipv6address .. I think this is a very good idea, because you don’t have to duplicate bridge configurations. If the configuration lo

Re: Default size limits for /run (/var/run) and /run/lock (/var/lock)

2011-04-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Roger Leigh writes: > On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 09:35:53AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> To me that reads like you will mount a tmpfs on /tmp if root is >> read-only even if RAMTMP is not set. Which is wrong if the system has a >> /tmp filesystem in /etc/fstab. > > This is a good point. I'

Re: Bug#622922: ITP: apparmor -- AppArmor Mandatory Access Control system userspace tools

2011-04-16 Thread Joachim Wiedorn
Ben Hutchings wrote on 2011-04-16 16:11: > I'm (slowly) working on a way to build in all LSMs and then free memory > for those that aren't used. That is a good news because I am on the way to package smack tools for Debian. --- Have a nice day. Joachim (Germany) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

/run or not /run?

2011-04-16 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Dear maintainers, I am a little bit confused of the trouble with the last udev-package. What is now debian-standard? Must I create a directory /run and make it root- writable? Or is /run still not standard? Questions, questions, questions. At the moment, there is no /run on my system, as it

Re: /run support for wheezy: final (I hope) call for testing

2011-04-16 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 09:58:58PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Sat, 16 Apr 2011, Roger Leigh wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 08:59:01PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > > On Fri, 15 Apr 2011, Roger Leigh wrote: > > > > { find var/run/ ! -type d -print0; \ > > > >

Re: Static libraries in development packages

2011-04-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"Steve M. Robbins" writes: > On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 09:55:34AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Given the cost that involves and that nobody has screamed about it in >> the last 10 years I would opt for rephrasing it to "as needed". The >> would reflect the current practice best. > > I don'

Re: /run or not /run?

2011-04-16 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 08:01:05PM +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: > Dear maintainers, > > I am a little bit confused of the trouble with the last udev-package. > > What is now debian-standard? Must I create a directory /run and make it root- > writable? Or is /run still not standard? Questions, q

Bug#623030: ITP: libjaba-client-java -- minimal client for the JABAWS server

2011-04-16 Thread Vincent Fourmond
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Vincent Fourmond * Package name: libjaba-client-java Version : 0 (versioning yet unclear) Upstream Author : Peter V. Troshin, James B. Procter and Geoffrey J. Barton * URL : http://www.compbio.dundee.ac.uk/jabaws/ * License

Tool to sort package list in dependency order

2011-04-16 Thread Rob Browning
Do we have a tool that will sort a list of packages in dependency order? I ask because if we have one, I'd like to use it to replace the tsort mess in emacsen-common. Thanks -- Rob Browning rlb @defaultvalue.org and @debian.org GPG as of 2002-11-03 14DD 432F AE39 534D B592 F9A0 25C8 D377 8C7E 73

Bug#623037: general: Usb flash drive crashes Debian

2011-04-16 Thread Atanas Atanassov
Package: general Severity: normal Every time when I plug a usb drive Debian crashes. The system mount the drive successfully and crashes when I am trying to browse the folder -- System Information: Debian Release: 6.0.1 APT prefers stable-updates APT policy: (500, 'stable-updates'), (500, '

Re: Static libraries in development packages

2011-04-16 Thread Philip Ashmore
Hi there. Nobody thought to mention that static linking can dramatically increase performance, or to put it the other way around, dynamic linking can incur serious runtime penalties. I don't want to encourage everyone to start static linking everywhere just to get a few percentage points in

Re: Static libraries in development packages

2011-04-16 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2011-04-16, Philip Ashmore wrote: > Nobody thought to mention that static linking can dramatically > increase performance, or to put it the other way around, dynamic > linking can incur serious runtime penalties. At the expence of more RAM in use if multiple instances of the problem are runnin

Re: Tool to sort package list in dependency order

2011-04-16 Thread Obey Arthur Liu
Not really what you asked but there is a GSoC project this year about apt/dpkg ordering optimization. Arthur On Apr 16, 2011 4:27 PM, "Rob Browning" wrote: > > Do we have a tool that will sort a list of packages in dependency order? > I ask because if we have one, I'd like to use it to replace th

Processed (with 1 errors): Re: Bug#623037: general: Usb flash drive crashes Debian

2011-04-16 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > tags 623037 moreinfo Bug #623037 [general] general: Usb flash drive crashes Debian Added tag(s) moreinfo. > severity wishlist Unknown command or malformed arguments to command. > thanks Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need ass

Bug#623037: general: Usb flash drive crashes Debian

2011-04-16 Thread Osamu Aoki
tags 623037 moreinfo severity wishlist thanks Hi, On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 01:50:01PM -0700, Atanas Atanassov wrote: > Package: general > Severity: normal > > Every time when I plug a usb drive Debian crashes. The system mount the drive > successfully and crashes when I am trying to browse the fo

Bug#623037: general: Usb flash drive crashes Debian

2011-04-16 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2011-04-17 at 09:12 +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > tags 623037 moreinfo > severity wishlist > thanks > > Hi, > > On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 01:50:01PM -0700, Atanas Atanassov wrote: > > Package: general > > Severity: normal > > > > Every time when I plug a usb drive Debian crashes. The system m

Processed: reassign 623037 to linux-2.6, severity of 623037 is important

2011-04-16 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > reassign 623037 linux-2.6 Bug #623037 [general] general: Usb flash drive crashes Debian Bug reassigned from package 'general' to 'linux-2.6'. > severity 623037 important Bug #623037 [linux-2.6] general: Usb flash drive crashes Debian Severity set

Re: /run support for wheezy: final (I hope) call for testing

2011-04-16 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 16 Apr 2011, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > On pe, 2011-04-15 at 21:58 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > Symlinks in system path components REALLY are best avoided. > > Out of curiosity: why? Because not everything is blind to what it is transversing to get to the inode a path refers

Re: Openstack Compute nova, Cactus release, Squeeze built available in our private repo

2011-04-16 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 10:43:43AM +0800, Thomas Goirand a écrit : > > Again, if other DDs want to participate to this packaging effort, you'd > be welcome. Especially, it seems that the current version of euca tools > are broken (uec-publish-tarball got me stuck on my work for a week), and > woul

Re: Only forbid use of old alternatives to /run in wheezy+1?

2011-04-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Edward Allcutt writes: > On Sat, 16 Apr 2011, Roger Leigh wrote: >> On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 05:58:19PM +0100, Edward Allcutt wrote: >>> I suggest: >>> - on upgrade, bind mount or symlink /run/init -> /lib/init/rw >>> - on boot, after mounting /run, mkdir /run/init; ln -s /run/init >>> /lib/ini