completeness of the upg tests (was: test if primary group, with only implicit membership of the user?)

2010-05-29 Thread C. Gatzemeier
Thank you Harald for scrutinizing. Am Fri, 28 May 2010 14:50:27 +0200 schrieb Harald Braumann: > On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 11:30:25AM +0200, C. Gatzemeier wrote: > > I'm not sure yet, if I do properly understand the point when/why > > relaxing conditionally is a bad idea. To me, setting *fixed* um

Re: test if primary group, with only implicit membership of the user?

2010-05-29 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Harald Braumann] > Why would you create such a mixed system? I don't see a usecase for > that. You should not really allow your lack of imagination to limit what computer systems can handle. :) Here at the University of Oslo, the user database is probably 25 years old, and some users have priva

Re: lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")

2010-05-29 Thread Stephen Powell
On Fri, 28 May 2010 16:44:11 -0400 (EDT), Peter Samuelson wrote: > Stephen Powell wrote: >> It *does* recognize lilo and has special logic to patch lilo after >> the restore so that the machine will boot. > > So can this software be fooled into thinking it is dealing with lilo? > Would it be suffi

Re: RFH: bashisms in configure script

2010-05-29 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2010-05-26 00:18:23 +0200, David Weinehall wrote: > You're getting things the wrong way around. The version of dash that > will be put in experimental will be the correct one, the one in unstable > will be the crippled one. The reason things fails isn't because of > dash, but because of sloppy

Re: Let's write a system admin friendly mail server packaging system

2010-05-29 Thread Thomas Goirand
Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe wrote: > Thomas Goirand wrote: >> Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe wrote: >>> So far this is independent of third packages which is IMHO fine and >>> desirable. So far, this could be solved by a postfix-conf.d-snippet >>> shipped with the amavis package. >> Quite not. You also need

Re: Improving in-place upgrades of Ada packages from Lenny to Squeeze

2010-05-29 Thread Stephen Leake
David Kalnischkies writes: > 2010/5/28 Stephen Leake : >> Ludovic Brenta writes: >> >>> Stephen Leake wrote: Ludovic Brenta writes: > The reason for all this is that when a package libX2-dev Conflicts: >>> with > and Replaces: a package libX1-dev, aptitude does not remove libX1-dev

Re: Permission to NMU gcc-mingw32

2010-05-29 Thread Ove Kaaven
Den 23. mai 2010 15:47, skrev Ove Kaaven: Is it okay if I go ahead and do such a NMU? Well, since there have been no objections for a week, I guess I'll go ahead. I had been ready for some feedback from the mingw32 maintainers like "we're working on an updated mingw32, just wait a bit", or "g

Re: Recent changes in dpkg

2010-05-29 Thread Thomas Weber
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 07:45:30PM -0400, James Vega wrote: > On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:47:47PM +0200, Thomas Weber wrote: > > How many packages are we talking about here? Is there a way to get the > > number of packages that have the same version in Lenny and Squeeze? > > According to a quick qu

Re: lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")

2010-05-29 Thread Marc Haber
On Sun, 23 May 2010 16:26:48 +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: >On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 02:08:59PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: >> This also means that the grub2 maintainers (both Debian and Upstream) >> need to work on the regressions that exist in regard to moving from >> lilo or grub "legacy" to gru

Re: Let's write a system admin friendly mail server packaging system

2010-05-29 Thread Marc Haber
On Wed, 26 May 2010 18:42:50 +0200, Michael Banck wrote: >Eh, Debian can patch upstream software if it thinks it is necessary for >inter-operation, that's the one of the major points of having a >distribution. This is not always liked by the upstream communities though. For example, the exim com

Re: Re (2): lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")

2010-05-29 Thread Marc Haber
On Tue, 25 May 2010 11:42:34 -0400 (EDT), Stephen Powell wrote: >You're missing the point. The main selling point to management >is that Linux is free. If they have to buy new backup software >in order to accommodate Linux' backup requirements, that will >kill it on the spot. Whatever boot load

Re: Recent changes in dpkg

2010-05-29 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, 27 May 2010 21:36:17 +0200, Jean-Christophe Dubacq wrote: >On 27/05/2010 21:17, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: >> I wasn't around for the libc5 => libc6 transition, but my understanding >> is it was larger than 20% of the archive. I would guesstimate the >> removal of /usr/X11R6 at being around t

Re: The story behind UPG and umask.

2010-05-29 Thread Marc Haber
On Wed, 26 May 2010 23:43:12 +0100, Stephen Gran wrote: >This one time, at band camp, Roger Leigh said: >> How will adduser cope with group addition; does it skip UIDs until >> it finds an unused unique UID/GID pair? > >That certainly is the only approach that makes sense - it has the >benefit of

Re: Permission to NMU gcc-mingw32

2010-05-29 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 16:09:25 +0200, Ove Kaaven wrote: > Den 23. mai 2010 15:47, skrev Ove Kaaven: > >Is it okay if I go ahead and do such a NMU? > > Well, since there have been no objections for a week, I guess I'll go ahead. > > I had been ready for some feedback from the mingw32 maintainer

Re: Permission to NMU gcc-mingw32

2010-05-29 Thread Ove Kaaven
Den 29. mai 2010 17:51, skrev Julien Cristau: On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 16:09:25 +0200, Ove Kaaven wrote: Den 23. mai 2010 15:47, skrev Ove Kaaven: Is it okay if I go ahead and do such a NMU? Well, since there have been no objections for a week, I guess I'll go ahead. I had been ready for som

Re: lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")

2010-05-29 Thread Andreas Barth
* Stephen Powell (zlinux...@wowway.com) [100523 21:21]: > On Sat, 22 May 2010 23:39:52 -0400 (EDT), William Pitcock wrote: > > After some discussion about lilo on #debian-devel in IRC, it has pretty > > much been determined that kernel sizes have crossed the line past where > > lilo can reliably de

Bug#583705: ITP: opencsg -- image-based CSG (Constructive Solid Geometry) library using OpenGL

2010-05-29 Thread chrysn
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: chrysn * Package name: opencsg Version : 1.3.0 Upstream Author : Florian Kirsch * URL : http://opencsg.org/ * License : GPL-2+ Programming Lang: C++ Description : image-based CSG (Constructive Solid Geometry) lib

Archive area for clamz (Amazon MP3 downloader)

2010-05-29 Thread Felix Geyer
clamz [1] has been rejected from Debian NEW [2] some time ago. The FTP assistent that processed the package was of the opinion that it belongs to contrib instead of main because it's only useful to download non-free content. The purpose of clamz is to download MP3 files after buying them from Amaz

Re: Re (2): lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")

2010-05-29 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sat, 29 May 2010 10:51:10 -0400 (EDT), Marc Haber wrote: > On Tue, 25 May 2010 11:42:34 -0400 (EDT), Stephen Powell wrote: >> >> You're missing the point. The main selling point to management >> is that Linux is free. If they have to buy new backup software >> in order to accommodate Linux' b

Re: IPv4-capable XDMCP server in Debian squeeze?

2010-05-29 Thread Per Lundberg
On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 8:58 PM, Carl Johnson wrote: Hi Carl, and thanks for your reply! (I'll include my full original email, since I extended the audience to the debian-devel list as well) > Per Lundberg writes: > >> Isn't there any XDMCP-capable server available in squeeze that can >> speak

Re: IPv4-capable XDMCP server in Debian squeeze?

2010-05-29 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 22:32:07 +0300, Per Lundberg wrote: > >> Isn't there any XDMCP-capable server available in squeeze that can > >> speak ipv4 any more? I'm fairly sure xdmcp over ipv4 works just fine with both xdm and gdm in squeeze, because I tested them (and made them work with the bindv6

Re: Recent changes in dpkg

2010-05-29 Thread James Vega
On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 02:17:27PM +0200, Thomas Weber wrote: > So, we are talking about 1000 packages which are up-to-date in > unstable currently. Bugs don't change that picture much. I consider this > manageable during a full cycle. > > And frankly, arguing back and forth about this is an exerc

Re: IPv4-capable XDMCP server in Debian squeeze?

2010-05-29 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 23:16:06 +0300, Per Lundberg wrote: > On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Julien Cristau wrote: > > Hi Julien, > > > I'm fairly sure xdmcp over ipv4 works just fine with both xdm and gdm in > > squeeze, because I tested them (and made them work with the bindv6only=1 > > se

Re: Improving in-place upgrades of Ada packages from Lenny to Squeeze

2010-05-29 Thread Ludovic Brenta
David Kalnischkies writes: > No. Replaces is used to say to dpkg: It is okay that this package > overrides files of the other package - otherwise dpkg would complain > loudly for good reasons. It doesn't say something about the > upgrade path. I disagree with this particular part of your analysis

Re: Archive area for clamz (Amazon MP3 downloader)

2010-05-29 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 21:14 +0200, Felix Geyer wrote: > clamz [1] has been rejected from Debian NEW [2] some time ago. > The FTP assistent that processed the package was of the > opinion that it belongs to contrib instead of main because it's > only useful to download non-free content. > > The pur

Re: IPv4-capable XDMCP server in Debian squeeze?

2010-05-29 Thread Per Lundberg
On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Julien Cristau wrote: Hi Julien, > I'm fairly sure xdmcp over ipv4 works just fine with both xdm and gdm in > squeeze, because I tested them (and made them work with the bindv6only=1 > setting) a month or two ago. OK, that's interesting... Just for the sake of

Re: lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")

2010-05-29 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sat, 29 May 2010 14:40:41 -0400 (EDT), Andreas Barth wrote: > Stephen Powell wrote: >> On Sat, 22 May 2010 23:39:52 -0400 (EDT), William Pitcock wrote: >>> After some discussion about lilo on #debian-devel in IRC, it has pretty >>> much been determined that kernel sizes have crossed the line pas

Re: IPv4-capable XDMCP server in Debian squeeze?

2010-05-29 Thread Per Lundberg
On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 11:22 PM, Julien Cristau wrote: > On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 23:16:06 +0300, Per Lundberg wrote: >> p...@terah:/etc/sysctl.d$ sudo netstat -l -n -p | grep 177 >> udp6       0      0 :::177                  :::* >>          1632/xdm >> > That's fine, bind() on in6addr_any lets

Re: Archive area for clamz (Amazon MP3 downloader)

2010-05-29 Thread Ron Johnson
On 05/29/2010 03:28 PM, Ben Hutchings wrote: On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 21:14 +0200, Felix Geyer wrote: clamz [1] has been rejected from Debian NEW [2] some time ago. The FTP assistent that processed the package was of the opinion that it belongs to contrib instead of main because it's only useful to

Re: Archive area for clamz (Amazon MP3 downloader)

2010-05-29 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 19:33 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 05/29/2010 03:28 PM, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 21:14 +0200, Felix Geyer wrote: > >> clamz [1] has been rejected from Debian NEW [2] some time ago. > >> The FTP assistent that processed the package was of the > >> opinio

Re: Archive area for clamz (Amazon MP3 downloader)

2010-05-29 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Ben Hutchings wrote: > I think the policy being applied is that if a package is only useful in > conjunction with non-free data, it belongs in contrib (just as if it > depends on some non-free library). Should I move libwww-topica-perl to contrib? Personally I

Re: Archive area for clamz (Amazon MP3 downloader)

2010-05-29 Thread Kartik Mistry
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Paul Wise wrote: >> I think the policy being applied is that if a package is only useful in >> conjunction with non-free data, it belongs in contrib (just as if it >> depends on some non-free library). > > Should I move libwww-topica-perl to contrib? > Personally I

Re: Bug#529974: RFP: rtmpdump -- download media streamed with the RTMP/RTMPE protocol

2010-05-29 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On Fr, Mai 28, 2010 at 22:49:43 (CEST), Ron Johnson wrote: > On 05/28/2010 09:20 AM, Reinhard Tartler wrote: >> On Fr, Mai 28, 2010 at 16:00:27 (CEST), Ron Johnson wrote: >> >>> On 05/28/2010 01:25 AM, Reinhard Tartler wrote: I'm going to package rtmpdump next week. On Fr, Mai 22, 2