Re: Too much disruptive NMUs

2010-05-23 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 22/05/10 at 18:33 +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > Does the MIA team take note of the WNPP reports of recently orphaned > packages or is there a chance that an inactive maintainer whose only > package is orphaned and then uploaded using QA, could drop off the > radar of the MIA team? (Leaving the k

Re: Too much disruptive NMUs

2010-05-23 Thread Jan Hauke Rahm
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 08:40:44AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > On 22/05/10 at 15:07 +0200, Ana Guerrero wrote: > > Hi, > > > > It is good to care for packages from people who are currently too busy and > > making NMUs to fix critical/very important bugs. However, lately I have been > > seeing a

Re: Translations copyrights/licences

2010-05-23 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 23 May 2010 07:53:14 +0200 Julien Valroff wrote: > The sources contain gettext translations, the copyrights and licences > of which are sometimes unclearly stated, eg: Nearly all packages with translations have "problems" like this. It isn't actually a problem, there's nothing realistic

Re: Too much disruptive NMUs

2010-05-23 Thread Jan Hauke Rahm
On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 06:33:41PM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > On Sat, 22 May 2010 19:20:42 +0200 > Julien BLACHE wrote: > > > Either it's a QA upload or it's a NMU, but it can't be "a bit of > > both". > > > > If the package is effectively not maintained anymore, it's up to the > > MIA team t

Re: shutdown on power button?

2010-05-23 Thread Michael Meskes
On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 10:21:08AM +0200, Salvo Tomaselli wrote: > I think i should also close the bug, and.. sorry :-) Don't worry, stuff like this happens. Michael -- Michael Meskes Michael at Fam-Meskes dot De, Michael at Meskes dot (De|Com|Net|Org) Michael at BorussiaFan dot De, Meskes at (

Re: lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")

2010-05-23 Thread Cyril Brulebois
(Dropping -release, which isn't a discussion list.) William Pitcock (22/05/2010): > Given that there is no active upstream and that the Debian lilo > package carries many patches for bug fixes that are alleviated by > standardizing on grub2, this seems like the best option for Debian. Speaking o

Re: lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")

2010-05-23 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 01:11:48PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > William Pitcock (22/05/2010): > > This means that users should *test grub2 extensively* before Squeeze > > is released so that any issues can be resolved now. > > There should also be some folks fixing the discovered issues. grub

Re: Translations copyrights/licences

2010-05-23 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Hello, speaking both with my translator and my Debian Maintainer hat on, I can state the following: a) There are lots of "drive by" translators. Systems like launchpad or DDTP even *encourage* this. In this case, it is most likely not possible at all to contact individual translators. b) In

Re: lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")

2010-05-23 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that William Pitcock may or may not have written... > After some discussion about lilo on #debian-devel in IRC, it has pretty > much been determined that kernel sizes have crossed the line past where > lilo can reliably determine the payload size. Working fine here on i386, whether booti

Re: Too much disruptive NMUs

2010-05-23 Thread Jari Aalto
Ana Guerrero writes: > > It is good to care for packages from people who are currently too busy and > making NMUs to fix critical/very important bugs. However, lately I have been > seeing a lot of NMUs that are being very disruptive Hi Ana, The packages I took under close look have been carefull

Re: Too much disruptive NMUs

2010-05-23 Thread Alexander Wirt
Jari Aalto schrieb am Sunday, den 23. May 2010: Hi, *snip* > In addition to fixing the RC bugs, minor updates were usually done at > the same time. This was done for the reasons that in case the packages > were later orphaned or the maintainer were MIA, it would be more > desireable to have a we

Re: lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")

2010-05-23 Thread Julien BLACHE
Darren Salt wrote: Hi, > Working fine here on i386, whether booting a stock kernel (testing with > 2.6.33 from experimental) or a custom kernel. I've not checked a stock kernel > on amd64 for some time now, but I've seen no problems with my custom kernels > (which are all initrd-free). No probl

Permission to NMU gcc-mingw32

2010-05-23 Thread Ove Kaaven
The lack of a suitable (i.e. non-buggy) mingw32 cross-compiler has blocked Wine updates for half a year now. Both the mingw32 package (gcc 4.2.1) and the gcc-mingw32 package (gcc 4.4.2) have a bug which was fixed in upstream gcc 4.4.3. At least one of these should be updated, if we want a fully

Re: Too much disruptive NMUs

2010-05-23 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 03:25:11PM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: > > The DEP1 does't specifially encourage fixing anything else than the BUG > > at hand, and that's a very good rule for actively maintained packages. > That dep thingys are no policy. imho these uploads violate the nmu policy. Well,

Re: Too much disruptive NMUs

2010-05-23 Thread Jari Aalto
Alexander Wirt writes: >> Jari Aalto schrieb am Sunday, den 23. May 2010: >> >> [When package was not maintained] >> >> In addition to fixing the RC bugs, minor updates were usually done at >> the same time. This was done for the reasons that in case the packages >> were later orphaned or the main

Re: lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")

2010-05-23 Thread Marc Haber
On Sat, 22 May 2010 22:39:52 -0500, William Pitcock wrote: >This means that users should *test grub2 extensively* before Squeeze is >released so that any issues can be resolved now. This also means that the grub2 maintainers (both Debian and Upstream) need to work on the regressions that exist in

Re: Too much disruptive NMUs

2010-05-23 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 05:09:32PM +0300, Jari Aalto wrote: > - non-active maintainer and for case like: years old package, 6+ > months old FTBFS, or ancient 3.[56].x policy in debian/control? On -qa, we tried to define some time ago work-flow for dealing with cases like that (essentiall

Re: lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")

2010-05-23 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 02:08:59PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > This also means that the grub2 maintainers (both Debian and Upstream) > need to work on the regressions that exist in regard to moving from > lilo or grub "legacy" to grub2. There are too many bug reports in the > BTS which are completel

Re: lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")

2010-05-23 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Julien BLACHE may or may not have written... > Darren Salt wrote: >> Working fine here on i386, whether booting a stock kernel (testing with >> 2.6.33 from experimental) or a custom kernel. I've not checked a stock >> kernel on amd64 for some time now, but I've seen no problems with

Re: lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")

2010-05-23 Thread Julien BLACHE
Darren Salt wrote: Hi, >>> Working fine here on i386, whether booting a stock kernel (testing with >>> 2.6.33 from experimental) or a custom kernel. I've not checked a stock >>> kernel on amd64 for some time now, but I've seen no problems with my >>> custom kernels (which are all initrd-free). >

Bug#582782: ITP: serp -- Java Virtual Machine bytecode manipulation framework

2010-05-23 Thread Miguel Landaeta
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Miguel Landaeta * Package name: serp Version : 1.14.1 Upstream Author : A. Abram White * URL : http://serp.sourceforge.net/ * License : BSD Programming Lang: Java Description : Java Virtual Machine bytecode manip

Re: Too much disruptive NMUs

2010-05-23 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 06:23:25PM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > On Sat, 22 May 2010 09:32:02 -0700 > tony mancill wrote: > > > I sponsored the upload of a number of Jari's fixes. You state that > > they were disruptive, but I'm wondering to whom. The uploads were to > > delayed queues and

Re: Too much disruptive NMUs

2010-05-23 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 24/05/10 at 01:15 +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > Really, issue is "Debian does not have reasonable rule for hijacking or > automatic orphaning". I fully agree. There are many packages that are staying with totally outdated upstream versions simply because the maintainer went inactive, and MIA was n

Re: debian/watch problem due to http://code.google.com download page's link format change

2010-05-23 Thread Iustin Pop
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 06:48:41PM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 05:16:08PM +0800, Asias He wrote: > > Hi, All > > > > Recently, code.google.com changed the download page link format. > > As a result, the old debian/watch file in packages whose upstream source > > co

Possible boot ordering issues with the packages in Sid

2010-05-23 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
Every day, I run a archive wide consistency check of all the init.d scripts in Debian. It detect dependencies on non-existing facilities, duplicate provides and other problems. Here is the complete list from today, also available from http://lintian.debian.org/~pere/ >. There are quite a few fa

Re: Possible boot ordering issues with the packages in Sid

2010-05-23 Thread Patrick Matthäi
Am 23.05.2010 20:25, schrieb Petter Reinholdtsen: Every day, I run a archive wide consistency check of all the init.d scripts in Debian. It detect dependencies on non-existing facilities, duplicate provides and other problems. Here is the complete list from today, also available fromhttp://lin

Re: Possible boot ordering issues with the packages in Sid

2010-05-23 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Patrick Matthäi] > Thanks for the list, but wouldn't it be better to submit bugreports? :) Absolutely, and thank you for volunteering. I submit bug reports as quickly as I find time to review issues and report them (I have perhaps 5-10 minutes per day available for this), and as you can see fro

Re: Too much disruptive NMUs

2010-05-23 Thread Ana Guerrero
Hi Jari (also Tony and Nobuhiro): On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 04:21:30PM +0300, Jari Aalto wrote: > I am not going to answer you detailed to this email because you are trying to explain you did nothing wrong and I agree you did nothing wrong trying to fix bug and improve the quality in the archive

Re: lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")

2010-05-23 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sat, 22 May 2010 23:39:52 -0400 (EDT), William Pitcock wrote: > > After some discussion about lilo on #debian-devel in IRC, it has pretty > much been determined that kernel sizes have crossed the line past where > lilo can reliably determine the payload size. > > This bug *can* be fixed, but n

Re: Possible boot ordering issues with the packages in Sid

2010-05-23 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 08:25:34PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > warning: script ircd-irc2/init.d/ircd-irc2 possibly missing dependency on > $syslog We already covered this in #469605 and it's a false positive. Kurt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with

Re: lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")

2010-05-23 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, - "Stephen Powell" wrote: > (blah blah blah blah) Nobody cares if you are opposed to it. Unless you are offering to become lilo upstream, it's going away. William -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact lis

Re: Too much disruptive NMUs

2010-05-23 Thread Ana Guerrero
Hi! On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 10:01:22AM +0200, Jan Hauke Rahm wrote: > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 08:40:44AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > On 22/05/10 at 15:07 +0200, Ana Guerrero wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > It is good to care for packages from people who are currently too busy and > > > making

Re: lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")

2010-05-23 Thread Stanislav Maslovski
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 12:11:30AM +0400, William Pitcock wrote: > Hi, > > - "Stephen Powell" wrote: > > > (blah blah blah blah) > > Nobody cares if you are opposed to it. Unless you are offering to become > lilo upstream, it's going away. That is why I love reading d-dev. Some debian dev

Bug#582831: ITP: png2ico -- png2ico converts PNG files to Windows icon resource files.

2010-05-23 Thread Chris Silva
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Chris Silva * Package name: png2ico Version : 12.08.02-1 Upstream Author : Matthias S. Benkmann * URL : http://www.winterdrache.de/freeware/png2ico/ * License : GPL-2 Programming Lang: G++ Description : png2ico

Bug#582835: ITP: ditchers -- tank digging and shooting game

2010-05-23 Thread Jan Jeroným Zvánovec
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Jan Jeroným Zvánovec" * Package name: ditchers Version : 1.0.4 Upstream Author : David Slabý * URL : http://ditchers.sourceforge.net/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C++, Lua Description : tank digging and sho

Re: lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")

2010-05-23 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sun, 23 May 2010 16:11:30 -0400 (EDT), William Pitcock wrote: > "Stephen Powell" wrote: >> (blah blah blah blah) > > Nobody cares if you are opposed to it. Unless you are offering to become > lilo upstream, it's going away. > > William I do understand why a Debian package maintainer does not

Re: lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")

2010-05-23 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sun, 23 May 2010, Stephen Powell wrote: > But withdrawing it from the distribution seems like overkill to me, > especially since you want to withdraw it from Squeeze and not > Squeeze+1. Lilo, as it exists today, works just fine for my > purposes. If the maintainer doesn't wish to maintain it f

Re: lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")

2010-05-23 Thread Florian Zagler
On Monday, 24. May 2010, Stephen Powell wrote: > I do understand why a Debian package maintainer does not wish to become > "upstream". And I hope that someone who is both willing and able to do > so steps up to the plate. But withdrawing it from the distribution seems > like overkill to me, espec

Re: lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")

2010-05-23 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Stanislav Maslovski (stanislav.maslov...@gmail.com): > > Nobody cares if you are opposed to it. Unless you are offering to become > > lilo upstream, it's going away. > > That is why I love reading d-dev. Some debian developers are so good > at argumentation! Everybody has time constrain

Bug#582851: RFP: asus-oled-driver -- Driver for Asus OLED display present in some Asus laptops.

2010-05-23 Thread Roman V. Nikolaev
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org --- Please fill out the fields below. --- Package name: asus-oled-driver Version: 0.03 Upstream Author: Jakub Schmidtke URL: http://lapsus.berlios.de/asus_oled.html URL: http://develop

Re: Possible boot ordering issues with the packages in Sid

2010-05-23 Thread Christian PERRIER
> Christian Perrier >console-common (U) > warning: script console-common/init.d/keymap.sh possibly missing > dependency on $remote_fs I wonder what in keymap.sh is triggerring this. TTBOMK, /etc/init.d/keymap.sh is meant to work without /usr being mounted >samba (U) > erro