Re: Default value of net.ipv6.bindv6only should revert to 0

2010-04-12 Thread Salvo Tomaselli
On Sunday 11 April 2010 23:32:01 Marco d'Itri wrote: > After months, you *still* do not understand the issue... ... > If a kernel without IPv6 support is used then e.g. an ACL will contain > plain IPv4 addresses as expected, but when a kernel with IPv6 support is > installed in your scenario then

Re: Default value of net.ipv6.bindv6only should revert to 0

2010-04-12 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Hendrik Sattler [100409 20:21]: > Actually not. They'll just assume that binding the port first for IPv4, then > for IPv6 will work. Eventually, they'll be surprised that it fails elsewhere > (notably those that stick to the _documented_ default value). > As already noted, there are already syst

Re: Default value of net.ipv6.bindv6only should revert to 0

2010-04-12 Thread Julien Cristau
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:00:35 +0200, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > * Hendrik Sattler [100409 20:21]: > > Actually not. They'll just assume that binding the port first for IPv4, then > > for IPv6 will work. Eventually, they'll be surprised that it fails elsewhere > > (notably those that stick to th

Bug#577512: ITP: libmemoize-expirelru-perl -- Expiry plug-in for Memoize that adds LRU cache expiration

2010-04-12 Thread eloy
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Krzysztof Krzyżaniak (eloy)" Owner: "Krzysztof Krzyżaniak (eloy)" * Package name: libmemoize-expirelru-perl Version : 0.55 Upstream Author : Brent B. Powers (B2Pi), * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Memoize-ExpireLRU/ * Lice

Re: Default value of net.ipv6.bindv6only should revert to 0

2010-04-12 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Apr 12, Julien Cristau wrote: > This has exactly nothing to do with the default value of bindv6only. If > anything, setting it to 1 by default makes things worse for v4-only > setups. How so? -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Default value of net.ipv6.bindv6only should revert to 0

2010-04-12 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Apr 12, Salvo Tomaselli wrote: > > If a kernel without IPv6 support is used then e.g. an ACL will contain > > plain IPv4 addresses as expected, but when a kernel with IPv6 support is > > installed in your scenario then that ACL will not work anymore (without > > special code) because now the I

Re: why are the watchdog drivers blacklisted?

2010-04-12 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Feb 05, Marco d'Itri wrote: > I cannot even find anymore this i810_tco/i8xx_tco module, so in the next > udev upload I will remove all watchdog drivers from the blacklist and > maybe add back the ones reported as broken. Done, with the exception of iTCO_wdt which is still blacklisted as reques

Re: Default value of net.ipv6.bindv6only should revert to 0

2010-04-12 Thread Salvo Tomaselli
On Monday 12 April 2010 18:19:08 Marco d'Itri wrote: > You keep missing the point. Let me try with shorter sentences, if you > still do not get it maybe I can try a puppets show. I keep on missing the point because you keep on changing it. Try to be coherent please. You have removed the bsd thing,

Re: Default value of net.ipv6.bindv6only should revert to 0

2010-04-12 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2010-04-12, Salvo Tomaselli wrote: > On Monday 12 April 2010 18:19:08 Marco d'Itri wrote: >> You keep missing the point. Let me try with shorter sentences, if you >> still do not get it maybe I can try a puppets show. > I keep on missing the point because you keep on changing it. Try to be > c

Re: Default value of net.ipv6.bindv6only should revert to 0

2010-04-12 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Montag 12 April 2010 18:19:08 schrieb Marco d'Itri: > On Apr 12, Salvo Tomaselli wrote: > > > If a kernel without IPv6 support is used then e.g. an ACL will contain > > > plain IPv4 addresses as expected, but when a kernel with IPv6 support > > > is installed in your scenario then that ACL will

Re: Default value of net.ipv6.bindv6only should revert to 0

2010-04-12 Thread Russ Allbery
Salvo Tomaselli writes: > On Monday 12 April 2010 18:19:08 Marco d'Itri wrote: >> You keep missing the point. Let me try with shorter sentences, if you >> still do not get it maybe I can try a puppets show. > I keep on missing the point because you keep on changing it. Try to be > coherent pleas

Re: Default value of net.ipv6.bindv6only should revert to 0

2010-04-12 Thread Russ Allbery
m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) writes: > On Apr 12, Julien Cristau wrote: >> This has exactly nothing to do with the default value of bindv6only. >> If anything, setting it to 1 by default makes things worse for v4-only >> setups. > How so? Because of IPv6 code that assumes that you get a socket

Re: Default value of net.ipv6.bindv6only should revert to 0

2010-04-12 Thread Salvo Tomaselli
On Monday 12 April 2010 20:12:36 Russ Allbery wrote: > Marco is not changing the point. What Marco describes has been the > objection that several of us have had with bindv6only=0 from the very > beginning. He's just more persistant about continuing to repeat the same > point when people keep rai

Bug#577562: ITP: fsrunner -- KDE krunner plugin for instant file or directory access

2010-04-12 Thread Raúl Sánchez Siles
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Raúl Sánchez Siles" Owner: "Raúl Sánchez Siles" * Package name: fsrunner Version : 0.7.2 Upstream Author : Anders Aagaard * URL : http://code.google.com/p/fsrunner/downloads/list * License : GPL2 Programming Lang: C+

Re: Default value of net.ipv6.bindv6only should revert to 0

2010-04-12 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 11:12:36AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Salvo Tomaselli writes: > > On Monday 12 April 2010 18:19:08 Marco d'Itri wrote: > >> You keep missing the point. Let me try with shorter sentences, if you > >> still do not get it maybe I can try a puppets show. "Standards good. BS

Re: Default value of net.ipv6.bindv6only should revert to 0

2010-04-12 Thread George Danchev
Salvo Tomaselli writes: > On Monday 12 April 2010 20:12:36 Russ Allbery wrote: > > Marco is not changing the point. What Marco describes has been the > > objection that several of us have had with bindv6only=0 from the very > > beginning. He's just more persistant about continuing to repeat the s

Re: Default value of net.ipv6.bindv6only should revert to 0

2010-04-12 Thread Russ Allbery
Adam Borowski writes: > Instead of listening on a single socket, you need to change every single > daemon to include a select() loop. That's explicitely allowed by all > relevant RFCs and by POSIX, so breaking that is quite a regression. Yeah, I understand why POSIX made the choice that they di

Re: Default value of net.ipv6.bindv6only should revert to 0

2010-04-12 Thread Felipe Sateler
On 12/04/10 14:34, Salvo Tomaselli wrote: Java assumed you wanted the second bug. BSD picked the first bug. We > have to pick one or the other. Neither choice is attractive. No, java assumed the*POSIX default behaviour*. Why is the word*default* so difficult to understand? It means: "an opt

Re: Default value of net.ipv6.bindv6only should revert to 0

2010-04-12 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Montag 12 April 2010 23:25:16 schrieb Russ Allbery: > Adam Borowski writes: > > Instead of listening on a single socket, you need to change every single > > daemon to include a select() loop. That's explicitely allowed by all > > relevant RFCs and by POSIX, so breaking that is quite a regressi

Re: Default value of net.ipv6.bindv6only should revert to 0

2010-04-12 Thread Russ Allbery
Hendrik Sattler writes: > It's a trade-off with a different goal in mind. So what. Both settings > of bindv6only are if you cannot assume standard behaviour. Maybe we > should patch this option _out_ of the linux kernel to get rid of the > assumption that the default may be changed. It's not an