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Heyho!
Quite an annoying bug and no idea where to start looking...
On this Atom (AOA 150; kernel, hal, udev, X mostly from sid or at least
squeeze), I have now twice (both times after several suspend/wakeup cycles)
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 01:56:50 +0100, Michael Banck wrote:
> When it came to evaluating the same for Debian, his technical opinion
> won (e.g. the problem with setup.py changes mentioned some time ago) for
> the time being, and now that python2.6 would be ready to upload,
> Matthias turned ill (
On ven., 2009-12-04 at 07:54 +0100, Luk Claes wrote:
> Sorry, but trying to have a constructive discussion in between
> complaints, hijack scenarios and ill informed suggestions does not look
> very tempting to me and quite frankly I don't know how to make such a
> discussion constructive.
The thi
On Fri, Dec 04, 2009 at 01:14:36AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>
> The right thing, I think, is to do it in the open.
IMHO the best thing to do would be to maintain the policy document in a
reasonable VCS and commit frequently. People who are really interested
will drain the needed in
Hello
The last version of libconfig-model-perl (640-3) is now shipped with
dh_config_model_upgrade.
The aim of dh_config_model_upgrade is to provide an easy way for a
debian developer to add better configuration upgrade to the packages
they maintain.
Let's assume that Joe, debian developer, wa
Le jeudi 03 décembre 2009 à 19:28 +0100, Luk Claes a écrit :
> There is currently discussion ongoing about how to move forward, though
> due to the complex nature of the current situation (where also lots of
> FUD etc is on the lists), it is being dealt in private.
This is absolute bullshit. The
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Le jeudi 03 décembre 2009 à 22:46 +0100, Luk Claes a écrit :
> > Many still seem to think that Ubuntu is sufficiently close to Debian
> > that work done in it should be easily transferrable. If this is not the
> > case, maybe we need to start treating Ubuntu more like we do Fedora.
>
> Because it
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:10:41AM +0100, Dominique Dumont wrote:
> On Saturday 28 November 2009 15:50:37 Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > For those of you who were waiting for a call for talks from me on this
> > subject, it's not really coming. However, if you think your talk may be
> > of some interes
Luk Claes writes:
> This discussion on -devel is quite useless and contra productive for
> everyone involved.
>
> There is currently discussion ongoing about how to move forward, though
> due to the complex nature of the current situation (where also lots of
> FUD etc is on the lists), it is bein
On Fri, Dec 04, 2009 at 09:08:03AM +0100, Dominique Dumont wrote:
> The last version of libconfig-model-perl (640-3) is now shipped with
> dh_config_model_upgrade.
Cool, thanks for the update.
> The end user may have to answer a medium debconf question asking him
> whether to upgrade foobar pack
On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 09:08:03 +0100
Dominique Dumont wrote:
> The last version of libconfig-model-perl (640-3) is now shipped with
> dh_config_model_upgrade.
The package version doesn't sound like a new project, who is using it
(and why?).
(FYI the upstream CPAN description doesn't answer any of
On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 10:57:51 +0100
Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 04, 2009 at 09:08:03AM +0100, Dominique Dumont wrote:
> > The end user may have to answer a medium debconf question asking him
> > whether to upgrade foobar package with Config::Model. Hopefully,
> > that's all the end user
On Fri, Dec 04, 2009 at 11:35:30AM +, Neil Williams wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 04, 2009 at 09:08:03AM +0100, Dominique Dumont wrote:
> > > The end user may have to answer a medium debconf question asking him
> > > whether to upgrade foobar package with Config::Model. Hopefully,
> > > that's all the
On Fri, Dec 04, 2009 at 07:54:51AM +0100, Luk Claes wrote:
> Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> > First of all an objection to the basic principle: the fact that the
> > project "does not seem" to be able to have constructive discussion is
> > not an argument for not having them. I believe that given you
On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 10:18:46 +, Neil Williams wrote:
> > For more informations, see http://wiki.debian.org/PackageConfigUpgrade
> Which describes the technical minutiae of the codebase without
> explaining the "big picture" benefits of using the model or how the
> model proposes to "fix" the (
On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 16:45:53 +0100
gregor herrmann wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 10:18:46 +, Neil Williams wrote:
>
> > > For more informations, see
> > > http://wiki.debian.org/PackageConfigUpgrade
> > Which describes the technical minutiae of the codebase without
> > explaining the "big pict
I demand that Henrique de Moraes Holschuh may or may not have written...
> On Wed, 02 Dec 2009, Norbert Preining wrote:
[snip]
>> My program allows exactely that, and uses either DBus/HAL interface
>> of /dev/rfkill.
> Just keep in mind that /dev/rfkill manipulates radios of a given _type_ as
> a
On Fri, 2009-12-04 at 16:04 +, Neil Williams wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 16:45:53 +0100
> gregor herrmann wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 10:18:46 +, Neil Williams wrote:
> >
> > > > For more informations, see
> > > > http://wiki.debian.org/PackageConfigUpgrade
> > > Which describes the
On Friday 04 December 2009 11:18:46 Neil Williams wrote:
> The package version doesn't sound like a new project, who is using it
> (and why?).
Sorry, that's a typo. The version is 0.640-3. The project is new.
> (FYI the upstream CPAN description doesn't answer any of my questions
> below either.
[ reordering some quoted text ]
On Fri, Dec 04, 2009 at 04:04:04PM +, Neil Williams wrote:
> So it claims but that still doesn't make sense. Merely repeating the
> statement without supporting the assertion doesn't help.
Well, reading your posts I understand there is in fact a
misunderstandin
On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 13:29:28 -0300
Felipe Sateler wrote:
> > Where is the Model?
> >
> > Who designs the Model?
>
> You (or hopefully someone else who had the same config file syntax).
Then it's a config file parser, not a modeller?
> > Is the model package specific or system-wide?
>
> File
On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 17:48:00 +0100
Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 04, 2009 at 04:04:04PM +, Neil Williams wrote:
> > So it claims but that still doesn't make sense. Merely repeating the
> > statement without supporting the assertion doesn't help.
>
> Well, reading your posts I unders
Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le jeudi 03 décembre 2009 à 22:46 +0100, Luk Claes a écrit :
>>> Many still seem to think that Ubuntu is sufficiently close to Debian
>>> that work done in it should be easily transferrable. If this is not the
>>> case, maybe we need to start treating Ubuntu more like we
Michael Banck wrote:
> When it came to evaluating the same for Debian, his technical opinion
> won (e.g. the problem with setup.py changes mentioned some time ago) for
> the time being, and now that python2.6 would be ready to upload,
> Matthias turned ill (or was distracted by other real life stu
Le vendredi 4 décembre 2009 10:57:51, Stefano Zacchiroli a écrit :
> I wonder why the detail about how the conf file is being upgraded should
> be relevant to the final user at all. As you observe on the wiki page,
> most lusers barely know of the existence of /etc, why should they care
> about Con
On Fri, 2009-12-04 at 16:56 +, Neil Williams wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 13:29:28 -0300
> Felipe Sateler wrote:
>
> > > Where is the Model?
> > >
> > > Who designs the Model?
> >
> > You (or hopefully someone else who had the same config file syntax).
>
> Then it's a config file parser, n
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On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 17:10:20 +0100
Dominique Dumont wrote:
> On Friday 04 December 2009 11:18:46 Neil Williams wrote:
> > (FYI the upstream CPAN description doesn't answer any of my
> > questions below either. At no point is a Config Model explained or
> > described or is any attempt made to expla
The recent thread "RFC: organising focused BSPs" should have gotten
this much attention.
Debian is "behind" in many ways when it comes to the latest whatever,
but I guess people will complain.
I think Debian is amazing and will persevere. Thank you to those
working so hard to make it so.
Pete
On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 17:32:13 +, Neil Williams wrote:
> > Configuration file `/etc/sensors3.conf'
> > ==> File on system created by you or by a script.
> > ==> File also in package provided by package maintainer.
> >What would you like to do about it ? Your options are:
> > Y or I :
Le vendredi 4 décembre 2009 19:00:55, Felipe Sateler a écrit :
> Well, there is an abstract model of the config file. So yes, basically
> it parses the file into an internal model. I believe the idea is to be
> able to migrate automagically from one version to the next without user
> intervention.
On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 19:25:54 +0100
gregor herrmann wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 17:32:13 +, Neil Williams wrote:
>
> > > Configuration file `/etc/sensors3.conf'
> > > ==> File on system created by you or by a script.
> > > ==> File also in package provided by package maintainer.
> > >Wh
On Fri, Dec 04, 2009 at 06:54:56PM +0100, Dominique Dumont wrote:
> The idea was to offer the user a possibility to bail out since
> config-model is still experimental. But I'm beginning to wonder if
> this is a good idea...
IMO it is not, in the sense that it is quite pointless to put this
choice
On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 18:38:19 +, Neil Williams wrote:
> > * Or more generally: I want to preserve my locally modified values
> > and at the same time update the rest which I haven't touched.
> That's a user change, I thought the point of this was that changes *not
> done by users* are causing
On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 19:46:04 +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> Oh, well, I should probably
> just study Config::Model!
Since you speak French you might be interested in Dominique's
presentation at some French Perl meeting:
http://fpw2009.ubicast.eu/videos/free/64/
Cheers,
gregor
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2009/12/3 Dmitrijs Ledkovs :
> Does it support 3.0 (quilt)
Yes.
> and puts them into mercurial queues?
No support for Mercurial Queues at the moment; see discussion a couple
of weeks ago [1].
Instead it uses dpkg-source, that is, the dpkg-source built-in patch
handler or Quilt if it is installe
Neil Williams wrote:
> From an embedded perspective, we certainly don't want every
> configurable package depending on perl at package installation /
> upgrade time - that's why we have cdebconf.
And if that argument had been used when debconf was being written, we
might currently have neither deb
Le vendredi 4 décembre 2009 13:01:39, Stefano Zacchiroli a écrit :
> My reading of the above quoted test, is that Config::Model is not
> seeking to replace debconf; it is going to use it as other packages do
> for interacting with the user. Or, to be more precise, my understanding
> is that the pac
Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le jeudi 03 décembre 2009 à 19:28 +0100, Luk Claes a écrit :
>> There is currently discussion ongoing about how to move forward, though
>> due to the complex nature of the current situation (where also lots of
>> FUD etc is on the lists), it is being dealt in private.
>
On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 01:07:22 +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli
wrote:
>Heck, during the past months I know that you (again, as in DPL+2IC) have
>been doing stuff, quite a lot of very good stuff in fact, but nobody
>knows that, beside who has spoken to you via some private media (I'm one
>of them).
Well sa
Hi,
I got some FTBFS with binutils-gold bug reports. How can I build my
packages using binutils-gold? What do I have to change for that?
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Benjamin Drung wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I got some FTBFS with binutils-gold bug reports. How can I build my
> packages using binutils-gold? What do I have to change for that?
Just install it and then build your package (it diverts the linker so you just
need to install it).
Cheers,
Emilio
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Benjamin Drung (05/12/2009):
> I got some FTBFS with binutils-gold bug reports. How can I build my
> packages using binutils-gold? What do I have to change for that?
As for using it, given its postinst, I guess you only have to install
it to use it. Didn't check, though.
http://wiki.debian.org/q
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I hate the idea of this, but I have to do this because two LEOCHARRE
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