Re: New source package formats now available

2009-11-22 Thread Olivier Berger
Hi. Le samedi 21 novembre 2009 à 16:54 +0100, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : > Hello, > > We have collected some question/answers from early adopters in > the dedicated wiki page, the most important information is pasted > below. We hope you will find it helpful to convert your own packages. > http:/

Re: New source package formats now available

2009-11-22 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Sun, 22 Nov 2009, Olivier Berger wrote: > Maybe that's very explicit for eveyone, but I couldn't find any > explenation for regular humans of what "quilt" is (ok, I think I have a > clue, but remember not all newcomers may be familiar with it for > instance), and then what the difference ar

Re: New source package formats now available

2009-11-22 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Sat, 21 Nov 2009, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 08:51:51PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > Currently a package without a patch system needs heavy modifications in > > debian/rules to setup the patch system. So when you want to add a patch in > > debian/patches and not in th

Re: New source package formats now available

2009-11-22 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 10:48:14AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Because you want the patch to be clearly identified and to carry its > meta-information. Or because maybe you're applying 2 separate patches in > the same NMU upload. "Fixing cosmetic issues or changing the packaging style in NMUs

Bug#557459: dpkg-source: should not fallback to other formats without user intervention

2009-11-22 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Package: dpkg-dev Version: 1.15.5.2 Severity: wishlist It has been suggested on IRC that having dpkg-source switch back to native mode if it can't find the .orig tarball was probably a bad idea from the beginning and that it tends to confuse people. However, with the addition of new formats, I gen

Re: New source package formats now available

2009-11-22 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sun, 22 Nov 2009, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 10:48:14AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > Because you want the patch to be clearly identified and to carry its > > meta-information. Or because maybe you're applying 2 separate patches in > > the same NMU upload. > > "Fixing cosm

Re: nexuiz-data does not fit on a single CD

2009-11-22 Thread Philip Hands
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 01:22:46AM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > ]] Mike Hommey > > | On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 01:33:29PM -0200, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: > | > On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 15:23 +0100, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > | > > Ack. People which use computers which did not came with a DVD reader

Re: New source package formats now available

2009-11-22 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 08:51:51PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : > > Currently a package without a patch system needs heavy modifications in > debian/rules to setup the patch system. So when you want to add a patch in > debian/patches and not in the .diff.gz, you have to choose a patch system >

Re: New source package formats now available

2009-11-22 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sun, 22 Nov 2009, Charles Plessy wrote: > Also, as a side comment, I would like to add that the “NMU workflow” often > advertised on this list completely ignores that a large number of packages are > stored in a VCS where all DDs have write acceess. Uploading a package with an > anonymous and mo

Bug#557480: ITP: python-elementary -- Python bindings for the Elementary widget set

2009-11-22 Thread Albin Tonnerre
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Debian Pkg-e Team * Package name: python-elementary Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : Simon Busch * URL : http://www.enlightenment.org * License : LGPL Programming Lang: Python Description : Python bindings for th

Re: New source package formats now available

2009-11-22 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 22 Nov 2009, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Sun, 22 Nov 2009, Mike Hommey wrote: > > My point is : dpkg-source -x should be idempotent, whatever other > > packages are installed when you do it. The fact that you can't > > dpkg-source -x, and *then* install quilt to manage the patches is a > >

Bug#557431: general: there is no package to install all POSIX utilities at once

2009-11-22 Thread Dmitri Vorobiev
Actually, it is known that some utilities are not POSIX-compliant, and will probably never be. At the same time, I believe that even though some of the packages aren't POSIX-compliant, having a POSIX-like environment can be useful. The point therefore is not to have a POSIX-compliant system, but me

Bug#557515: ITP: rail -- Replace Agent-string Internal Library

2009-11-22 Thread Youhei SASAKI
Package: wnpp Owner: Youhei SASAKI Severity: wishlist * Package name: rail Version : 1.2.6 Upstream Author : Mitsunobu Shimada * URL or Web page : http://ring.riken.jp/archives/elisp/rail/ * License : GPL Description : Replace Agent-string Internal Library 1. comp

Re: New source package formats now available

2009-11-22 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 11:30:45AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Sun, 22 Nov 2009, Mike Hommey wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 10:48:14AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > > Because you want the patch to be clearly identified and to carry its > > > meta-information. Or because maybe you're

NMU question

2009-11-22 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
Hi I've just met an uninstallable package with 3-week-old RC bug, caused by soname change of one of dependences. This bug could be fixed by a simple rebuild - I've checked if package builds against today's sid - yes it does. I've never done an NMU before, but this looks like a case to try :)

Re: NMU question

2009-11-22 Thread Luk Claes
Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: > Hi Hi > I've just met an uninstallable package with 3-week-old RC bug, caused by > soname change of one of dependences. This bug could be fixed by a simple > rebuild - I've checked if package builds against today's sid - yes it > does. > > I've never done an NMU

Re: Bits from the FTPMaster meeting

2009-11-22 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:14:29PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > You are member of the technical comittee, which means that I should trust > your experience. I want you and this list to understand that I take your > advice to orphan my packages very seriously. Well, that's unfortunate, because M

Applied-Upstream field for Patch Tagging Guidelines (DEP-3)

2009-11-22 Thread Benjamin Drung
Hi, When a new upstream version is released, I have to check all patches if they were accepted by upstream or not. I have to check each patch if I can drop it. It would make packaging new releases easier if there were an optional Applied-Upstream field. Every patch that was applied upstream can be

Re: Bits from the FTPMaster meeting

2009-11-22 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, Nov 22 2009, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:14:29PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: >> You are member of the technical comittee, which means that I should trust >> your experience. I want you and this list to understand that I take your >> advice to orphan my packages ver

Re: Bug#552677: install-info changes

2009-11-22 Thread Brian May
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 12:46:59PM +0100, Jakub Wilk wrote: > * Brian May , 2009-11-17, 12:30: > [...] > > WARNING: The following essential packages will be removed. > > This should NOT be done unless you know exactly what you are doing! > > install-info (due to sed) > > 0 upgraded, 0 new

Re: Bug#552677: install-info changes

2009-11-22 Thread Brian May
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 02:27:46PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > install-info is only needed to create /usr/share/info/dir and the package > using that file should depend on install-info. install-info must not be > installed on all systems but only on systems that have an info-browser > installed

Re: New source package formats now available

2009-11-22 Thread Brian May
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 04:54:36PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > You need to put "3.0 (quilt)" or "3.0 (native)" in debian/source/format to > indicate the desired format to dpkg-source (see the dpkg-source(1) manual > page for more information). Am I doing something wrong? sys11:/home/brian/tre

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Re: Bug#552677: install-info changes

2009-11-22 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Mon, 23 Nov 2009, Brian May wrote: > On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 02:27:46PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > install-info is only needed to create /usr/share/info/dir and the package > > using that file should depend on install-info. install-info must not be > > installed on all systems but only on

Re: Applied-Upstream field for Patch Tagging Guidelines (DEP-3)

2009-11-22 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Mon, 23 Nov 2009, Benjamin Drung wrote: > When a new upstream version is released, I have to check all patches if > they were accepted by upstream or not. I have to check each patch if I > can drop it. It would make packaging new releases easier if there were > an optional Applied-Upstream