Re: Of the use of native packages for programs not specific to Debian.

2009-09-23 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Jonathan Yu writes: > I agree that debian/ files likely don't cause a "whole lot of trouble" > to us (it should only be a line to remove it using debian/rules prior > to building? but I'm not 100% sure on that). However, I don't think > that it not being tremendously burdensome on us in Debian is

Re: Transitional (dummy) packages considered silly

2009-09-23 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Magnus Holmgren writes: > When a binary package is renamed or split, as well as if several packages are > merged under a new name, transitional packages are normally created, which > depend on the new packages, which in turn Replaces and Conflicts with, and > possibly Provides, the old package

Re: Transitional (dummy) packages considered silly

2009-09-23 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Pierre Habouzit writes: > On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 11:52:23PM +0200, Magnus Holmgren wrote: > Note that transitional packages are seamless for users. When users has > foo in $stable, and foo gets renamed into bar in $stable +1, then there > is that: > > $stable: package foo > $stable + 1: foo Depe

Re: Transitional (dummy) packages considered silly

2009-09-23 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Magnus Holmgren writes: > When a binary package is renamed or split, as well as if several packages are > merged under a new name, transitional packages are normally created, which > depend on the new packages, which in turn Replaces and Conflicts with, and > possibly Provides, the old package

Re: Transitional (dummy) packages considered silly

2009-09-23 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sun, 20 Sep 2009, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > So while I dismissed your idea at first thinking you wanted to make it a > dpkg thing, now that I understand that you rather want it to be an /apt/ > one, it makes really more sense to me. I also believe that it's something that would be nice to have.

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Bug#548069: ITP: asciiportal -- puzzle jump'n'run adventure game

2009-09-23 Thread Peter Pentchev
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Peter Pentchev * Package name: asciiportal Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : Joseph Larson * URL : http://cymonsgames.com/asciiportal/ * License : MIT/X11 Programming Lang: C++ Description : puzzle jump'n'run advent

Bug#548070: ITP: libpdcurses0 -- X/Open curses library with an X11 and SDL interface

2009-09-23 Thread Peter Pentchev
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Peter Pentchev * Package name: libpdcurses0 Version : 3.4 Upstream Author : William McBrine * URL : http://pdcurses.sourceforge.net/ * License : Public domain, MIT, GPL-2+ Programming Lang: C Description : X/Open

Re: zendframework package with or without bin package

2009-09-23 Thread Raphael Geissert
Jeremiah Foster wrote: > > On Sep 23, 2009, at 1:22, Raphael Geissert wrote: > >> Frank Habermann wrote: >>> >>> I also want to rename the package to libphp-zendframework. >>> >> >> biased answer: ugh, why? >> That reminds me some of the libfoo-bar-moo-invent-something-else-here >> packages we h

Re: zendframework package with or without bin package

2009-09-23 Thread Raphael Geissert
sean finney wrote: > On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 06:22:20PM -0500, Raphael Geissert wrote: >> > >> > I also want to rename the package to libphp-zendframework. >> > >> >> biased answer: ugh, why? >> That reminds me some of the libfoo-bar-moo-invent-something-else-here >> packages we have in the arc

Re: Patch Tagging Guidelines (aka DEP3)

2009-09-23 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 11:03:37PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > You are welcome to share your feedback about this format on -devel, if we > identify shortcomings or possible enhancements, we can still update > the proposal (but only after we had time to get some real feedback > based on actua

Bug#548083: ITP: xen-orchestra -- Web-based Xen administration tool

2009-09-23 Thread Damien Leone
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Damien Leone * Package name: xen-orchestra Version : 0.12 Upstream Author : Olivier Lambert * URL : http://xen-orchestra.com/ * License : GPL-2 Programming Lang: PHP, AJAX Description : Web-based Xen administrat

Re: Debian marketing team

2009-09-23 Thread Levenfus
Hallo Am 22.08.2008, 15:37 Uhr, schrieb Andreas Schuldei : Hi everybody! The Debian Marketing Team is real. It just didnt get alot rolling yet and no processes in place to work on anything. But better late then never! We look for people (both Debian Developers, Maintaners or Users) around t

Re: Of the use of native packages for programs not specific to Debian.

2009-09-23 Thread Russ Allbery
Goswin von Brederlow writes: > If upstream == maintainer then why would there ever be an upstream > release without a debian release? It's rare for there to be an upstream release without a Debian release, although it can happen during freezes or with frequent dev releases. It's very, very comm

Re: Transitional (dummy) packages considered silly

2009-09-23 Thread Russ Allbery
Goswin von Brederlow writes: > Dpkg has the ability to vanish empty packages. A dummy package should > be completly empty and not even contain a /usr/share/doc/. Such a package is explicitly forbidden by Debian Policy. You need to propose a Policy change if you want to do this. I believe it wa

Re: Of the use of native packages for programs not specific to Debian.

2009-09-23 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, Sep 23 2009, Russ Allbery wrote: > Goswin von Brederlow writes: > >> If upstream == maintainer then why would there ever be an upstream >> release without a debian release? > > It's rare for there to be an upstream release without a Debian release, > although it can happen during freezes

Re: Of the use of native packages for programs not specific to Debian.

2009-09-23 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
Manoj Srivastava wrote: > And that, I think, may serve as a guiding criteria for whether > one should make a package native or not. With my native packages > (kernel-package, ucf, and devotee), I do not _have_ an upstrem process, > nor an upstream "distribution" or tarball; and thus ther

Bug#548092: RFP: php-qt -- Object-oriented interface to the Qt4 Framework.

2009-09-23 Thread Ivan Borzenkov
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org --- Please fill out the fields below. --- Package name: php-qt Version: 0.9 Upstream Author: Thomas Mönicke URL: http://www.php-qt.org/ License: GPL Description: PHP Object-oriented int

Re: Transitional (dummy) packages considered silly

2009-09-23 Thread Guillem Jover
On Wed, 2009-09-23 at 10:51:50 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Magnus Holmgren writes: > > When a binary package is renamed or split, as well as if several packages > > are > > merged under a new name, transitional packages are normally created, which > > depend on the new packages, which

Re: Of the use of native packages for programs not specific to Debian.

2009-09-23 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, Sep 23 2009, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: > Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> And that, I think, may serve as a guiding criteria for whether >> one should make a package native or not. With my native packages >> (kernel-package, ucf, and devotee), I do not _have_ an upstrem process, >>

Bug#548131: ITP: libmoosex-async-perl -- Moose metaclasses to support asynchronous operations

2009-09-23 Thread Jonathan Yu
Package: wnpp Owner: Jonathan Yu Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org,debian-p...@lists.debian.org * Package name: libmoosex-async-perl Version : 0.07 Upstream Author : Chris Prather * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/MooseX-Async/ * License

Bug#548136: ITP: libmoosex-poe-perl -- Moose wrapper around a POE::Session

2009-09-23 Thread Jonathan Yu
Package: wnpp Owner: Jonathan Yu Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org,debian-p...@lists.debian.org * Package name: libmoosex-poe-perl Version : 0.205 Upstream Author : Chris Prather * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/MooseX-POE/ * License