Re: Debian packaging license (was: Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines).

2009-08-18 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:58:04AM -0400, Jonathan Yu a écrit : > On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 1:13 AM, Charles Plessy wrote: > > > > we just had a case in the Debian Med packaging team where the upstream > > author > > of software licensed under terms similar to the BSD license got upset to see > > th

Bug#512599: Still interested in packaging conguity?

2009-08-18 Thread Ian Campbell
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Ian Campbell Hi Mathieu, Are you still planning to package congruity? I've just completed a rough draft packaging before I found this ITP. I'm happy to hand over what I've got to you or else perhaps you would consider sponsoring the package for me? Cheers

Re: Debian Policy 3.8.3.0 released: localized manpages

2009-08-18 Thread Nicolas François
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 09:53:34AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Yves-Alexis Perez writes: > > On lun, 2009-08-17 at 13:01 +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > > >> So surely the best way to tell if a translated page is out of date is > >> to compare these dates in the two documents, no? > > > And I guess

Re: Debian Policy 3.8.3.0 released: localized manpages

2009-08-18 Thread Roger Leigh
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 07:10:00PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Ben Finney writes: > > > What is the governing standard for Debian man pages, and what does it > > say about the ‘TH’ command? > > I don't believe we have any standard other than "you should have one" and > some guidelines about tra

Re: Debian Policy 3.8.3.0 released: localized manpages

2009-08-18 Thread Ben Finney
Nicolas François writes: > But I agree that if both the English and a translated manpages have a > date in the format -MM-DD, and the date of the translated manpages > has an older date, lintian could warn. Well if we're dreaming up proposed tests (sans implementation) for Lintian to perform

Re: Debian Policy 3.8.3.0 released: localized manpages

2009-08-18 Thread Roger Leigh
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 01:01:34PM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > gregor herrmann writes: > > > An interesting question is how to detect outdated translated manpages; > > According to ‘man-pages(7)’, the TH command in the man page should have > the date of the latest version of the document: > >

Re: Debian Policy 3.8.3.0 released: localized manpages

2009-08-18 Thread Andrea Bolognani
> This is just my own personal use of .TH in all my projects > , using sbuild as an example: > > TH SCHROOT 1 "@RELEASE_DATE@" "Version @VERSION@" "Debian > sbuild" > > where @RELEASE_DATE@ is the date of the release, which > gets substituted in by autoconf's configure script > (schroot.1.in -> s

Recommendations for man pages in Debian (was: Debian Policy 3.8.3.0 released: localized manpages)

2009-08-18 Thread Ben Finney
Roger Leigh writes: > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 01:01:34PM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > > I assume we expect man pages to conform to the conventions in > > ‘man-pages(7)’. (I've now been disabused of that assumption.) > I'm not sure we can have that expectation. If you look at > groff_man(7), it sp

Re: Debian Policy 3.8.3.0 released: localized manpages

2009-08-18 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2009-08-18, Andrea Bolognani wrote: > This also means localized manpages will always fail the simple > date check, unless you use the same .TH line in every localized > manpage. Doing so, however, would make it as impossible to know > which manpages are outdated based on the .TH line. And what

Re: Recommendations for man pages in Debian (was: Debian Policy 3.8.3.0 released: localized manpages)

2009-08-18 Thread Roger Leigh
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 08:13:20PM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > Roger Leigh writes: > > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 01:01:34PM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > > > I assume we expect man pages to conform to the conventions in > > > ‘man-pages(7)’. > > (I've now been disabused of that assumption.) > > > I

Re: Debian Policy 3.8.3.0 released: localized manpages

2009-08-18 Thread Andrea Bolognani
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 10:29:32 + (UTC), Philipp Kern wrote: > > And what should we do if a localized manpage is in fact > the authoriative one? That doesn't change a thing: if the date in the .TH line is supposed to be that of the last update (making a lintian check based on that date would ot

Re: Recommendations for man pages in Debian (was: Debian Policy 3.8.3.0 released: localized manpages)

2009-08-18 Thread Alastair McKinstry
It's only unambiguous if you know the convention being adopted /is/ ISO-8601. In an ideal world, we could have a standardised date format which the man program can transform into the date representation of the user's locale thus satisfying all requirements. ??? Thats what ISO-8601 is. There

Re: Recommendations for man pages in Debian (was: Debian Policy 3.8.3.0 released: localized manpages)

2009-08-18 Thread Roger Leigh
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 12:21:38PM +0100, Alastair McKinstry wrote: >>> >> >> It's only unambiguous if you know the convention being adopted /is/ >> ISO-8601. In an ideal world, we could have a standardised date format >> which the man program can transform into the date representation of >> the u

Re: Recommendations for man pages in Debian (was: Debian Policy 3.8.3.0 released: localized manpages)

2009-08-18 Thread Nicolas François
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 08:13:20PM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > Roger Leigh writes: > > > I, for example, use the date format '+%d %b %Y' (01 Aug 2009). The > > manual pages are human readable documentation. I think that nicely > > readable dates should be preferred here. > > This seems to falsely

Re: Debian packaging license (was: Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines).

2009-08-18 Thread Jonathan Yu
Hi Charles: On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 3:06 AM, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:58:04AM -0400, Jonathan Yu a écrit : >> On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 1:13 AM, Charles Plessy wrote: >> > >> > we just had a case in the Debian Med packaging team where the upstream >> > author >> > of softw

Packages still using libgnomeprint

2009-08-18 Thread Josselin Mouette
Hi all, libgnomeprint/libgnomeprintui is going to be soon deprecated upstream. The GtkPrint replacement (built in GTK+ itself) has been available for 3 years. I’d like to remove it before the squeeze release. This can only be done by getting rid of as much as possible of the reverse dependencies.

Re: Packages still using libgnomeprint

2009-08-18 Thread Barry deFreese
Josselin Mouette wrote: Hi all, libgnomeprint/libgnomeprintui is going to be soon deprecated upstream. The GtkPrint replacement (built in GTK+ itself) has been available for 3 years. I’d like to remove it before the squeeze release. This can only be done by getting rid of as much as possible of

Help needed on mipsel #541706: gpe-expenses_0.1.7-2+b1(mipsel/unstable)

2009-08-18 Thread Neil Williams
On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 20:21:47 +0200 Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > Package: gpe-expenses > Version: 0.1.7-2+b1 > Severity: serious > > There was an error while trying to autobuild your package: > > > Automatic build of gpe-expenses_0.1.7-2+b1 on rem by sbuild/mipsel 99.999 There doesn't appear to

Relation between Suggests and Enhances

2009-08-18 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, in the Debian Pure Blends effort we were wondering about relations of packages and what an "Enhances" relation actually means. Debian Policy says: `Enhances' This field is similar to Suggests but works in the opposite direction. It is used to declare that a package

Re: Relation between Suggests and Enhances

2009-08-18 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 09:13:42PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > What exactly means "similar". Assume package foo enhances package bar. > Does this mean that in turn package bar should Suggest package foo or > is this conclusion not really valid? As I understand it, "A enhances B" has (more or le

debian-policy: Version numbering: native packages, NMU's, and binary only uploads

2009-08-18 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.8.3.0 Severity: wishlist User: debian-pol...@packages.debian.org Usertags: normative issue Hi, Currently, there is some ambiguity in the areas of version numbering, debian_revision, native packages, and requirement for a diff.gz/orig.tar.gz files in a s

Re: Recommendations for man pages in Debian

2009-08-18 Thread Russ Allbery
Ben Finney writes: > I guess the question then becomes: since Policy describes supposed best > practice for Debian, *should* we be more specific about the format of a > man page? I think the conventions described in ‘man-pages(7)’ are a good > basis for recommendations for all Debian man pages.

Re: Debian Policy 3.8.3.0 released: localized manpages

2009-08-18 Thread Russ Allbery
Philipp Kern writes: > On 2009-08-18, Andrea Bolognani wrote: >> This also means localized manpages will always fail the simple date >> check, unless you use the same .TH line in every localized >> manpage. Doing so, however, would make it as impossible to know which >> manpages are outdated bas

Bug#542295: ITP: commandeer -- application to lock the screen for command execution

2009-08-18 Thread Jacob Peddicord
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jacob Peddicord * Package name: commandeer Version : 0.2.0 Upstream Author : Jacob Peddicord * URL : https://launchpad.net/commandeer * License : GPL2 Programming Lang: Vala Description : application to lock the

Re: Bug#454993: RFH: fglrx-driver -- non-free AMD/ATI r5xx, r6xx display driver

2009-08-18 Thread Patrick Matthäi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, it is an old RFH, but I want to remind it: We are needing help with the fglrx packaging. The person who would apply for this job should require the following: - - Using a radeon card > 2000 HD, which is supported by fglrx >= 9.4 - - Using uns

Mask to Protect from H1N1 virus

2009-08-18 Thread h1n1
Mask to Protect from H1N1 virus 3 ply surgical face mask : Detailed Product Description : Surgical Mask Material : PPSB + Meltblown Model : 3 ply nonwoven swine flu face amsk Colour : White Apply : H1N1 Standard : EN149 : 2001 Stock : 1 500 000 pcs Now we can offer you large quantit

Bug#542302: ITP: libnet-trac-perl -- Perl client library for Trac

2009-08-18 Thread Christine Spang
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Christine Spang * Package name: libnet-trac-perl Version : 0.14 Upstream Author : Jesse Vincent * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Net-Trac/ * License : Perl (Artistic | GPL-1+) Programming Lang: Perl Description

Bug#542303: ITP: libnet-redmine-perl -- Perl API for Redmine

2009-08-18 Thread Christine Spang
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Christine Spang * Package name: libnet-redmine-perl Version : 0.08 Upstream Author : Kang-min Liu * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Net-Redmine/ * License : Perl (Artistic | GPL-1+) Programming Lang: Perl Descripti

Bug#542305: ITP: libnet-github-perl -- Perl interface for GitHub

2009-08-18 Thread Christine Spang
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Christine Spang * Package name: libnet-github-perl Version : 0.18 Upstream Author : Fayland Lam * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Net-GitHub/ * License : Perl (Artistic | GPL-1+) Programming Lang: Perl Description

Bug#542310: ITP: librt-client-rest-perl -- Perl interface to RT installations using REST

2009-08-18 Thread Christine Spang
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Christine Spang * Package name: librt-client-rest-perl Version : 0.37 Upstream Author : Dmitri Tikhonov * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/RT-Client-REST/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: Perl Description : RES

Re: Relation between Suggests and Enhances

2009-08-18 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 22:36 +0300, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 09:13:42PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > > What exactly means "similar". Assume package foo enhances package bar. > > Does this mean that in turn package bar should Suggest package foo or > > is this conclus

Bug#542316: ITP: libnet-hiveminder-perl -- Perl interface to Hiveminder

2009-08-18 Thread Christine Spang
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Christine Spang * Package name: libnet-hiveminder-perl Version : 0.08 Upstream Author : Shawn Moore * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Net-Hiveminder/ * License : Perl (Artistic | GPL-1+) Programming Lang: Perl Desc

Bug#542317: ITP: libnet-google-code-perl -- Perl client library for Google Code

2009-08-18 Thread Christine Spang
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Christine Spang * Package name: libnet-google-code-perl Version : 0.14 Upstream Author : sunnavy * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Net-Google-Code/ * License : Perl (Artistic | GPL-1+) Programming Lang: Perl Descri

Re: Relation between Suggests and Enhances

2009-08-18 Thread Ben Finney
Ben Hutchings writes: > On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 22:36 +0300, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > > As I understand it, "A enhances B" has (more or less) the same > > effect as "B suggests A". Thus, the reverse Suggests relation would > > be redundant. > > A plugin "enhances" the application it works in

Re: Relation between Suggests and Enhances

2009-08-18 Thread James Westby
Ben Finney wrote: > Ben Hutchings writes: > >> On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 22:36 +0300, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: >>> As I understand it, "A enhances B" has (more or less) the same >>> effect as "B suggests A". Thus, the reverse Suggests relation would >>> be redundant. >> A plugin "enhances" the a

Re: Relation between Suggests and Enhances

2009-08-18 Thread Ben Finney
James Westby writes: > Ben Finney wrote: > > Yet a package of a plugin should surely have a ‘Depends’ > > relationship to the application package. Adding an ‘Enhances’ > > relationship seems redundant in that case. > > No, there are plenty of packages which depend on another without > enhancing t

Bug#542330: ITP: plasma-widget-logout -- Logout button on the desktop or panel.

2009-08-18 Thread Rafael Belmonte
X-Loop ow...@bugs.debian.org: Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 04:03:02 + Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: ow...@bugs.debian.org X-Debian-PR-Message: report 542330 X-Debian-PR-Package: wnpp X-Debian-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by sub...@bugs.debian.org id=B.125065431325718 (code

Re: Relation between Suggests and Enhances

2009-08-18 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 01:44:49AM +0100, James Westby wrote: > I see it as an almost bi-directional relationship, but one that allows > you to add it to the package that "cares" about it more. So the answers somehow draw a sketch about the concept behind the Enhances field - but is it technically

Re: Packaging ltp selinux tests

2009-08-18 Thread Russell Coker
On Friday 15 May 2009 06:26:00 Jiří Paleček wrote: > > I am not yet comfortable with my security policy changing just > > because a package is installed. So far, even the policy packages do not > > install the new policy, letting the security officer audit and manually > > install policy

Re: Recommendations for man pages in Debian

2009-08-18 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009, Russ Allbery wrote: > Ben Finney writes: > > > I guess the question then becomes: since Policy describes supposed best > > practice for Debian, *should* we be more specific about the format of a > > man page? I think the conventions described in ‘man-pages(7)’ are a good > >

Re: Recommendations for man pages in Debian

2009-08-18 Thread Ben Finney
Raphael Hertzog writes: > On Tue, 18 Aug 2009, Russ Allbery wrote: > > Given our limited success in getting people to provide man pages for > > every binary to start with, I'm reluctant to ask package maintainers > > to patch upstream man pages to do relatively inconsequential things > > like add