Re: ia32-libs depends on ia32-apt-get ?

Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Didier 'OdyX' Raboud writes: >> I would largely prefer if ia32-* in its actual shape would be released in >> experimental (where, with this level of touching the base of Debian >> repositories handling, it should sit) and version 2.7 uploaded back in >> Sid... > > C

Re: RFC round 3: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

On 29/06/09 at 22:53 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Lucas Nussbaum suggested to replace "Bug-" with "" while > Sean Finney suggested that the latter could be an alias for the former. I > explained that I initially selected "Bug-" because it enables simple > parsing without encoding a list of known

Re: ia32-libs transition

Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Aneurin Price writes: > >> Hi, >> >> I've just spent over an hour writing and rewriting this mail, and >> determined that I can't think of a single constructive thing to say. >> >> So I'll just ask a couple of questions instead: >> >> Is there any way of preventing

Re: ia32-libs transition

Le mardi 30 juin 2009 à 01:55 +0100, Aneurin Price a écrit : > Is there any way of preventing this kind of major breakage in the future? > I don't think many people expect that upgrading one package will FUBAR > the packaging system. Report a critical bug against the package. Arrange so that it ca

Re: ping for gtk+extra2 removal - implications for libgtkada2 and gpsim

Le lundi 29 juin 2009 à 23:30 +0100, Neil Williams a écrit : > On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:19:45 +0100 > Neil Williams wrote: > > > gtk+extra2 will FTBFS as soon as the functions that will be removed in > > GTK+3.0 become deprecated in GTK+2.0. GTK+2.0 doesn't have to be > > removed from Debian for gt

Re: Multiarch (Was: Re: ia32-libs depends on ia32-apt-get)

On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 09:02:05PM +0100, Matthew Johnson wrote: > I've also CC'd Hector and Steve who are listed as owners on that > document because whatever we do to get multiarch working (and I have no > strong views on the right way to do it) we should definitely not do it > differently to Ubu

Re: ping for gtk+extra2 removal - implications for libgtkada2 and gpsim

Selon Josselin Mouette : > Le lundi 29 juin 2009 à 23:30 +0100, Neil Williams a écrit : > > On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:19:45 +0100 > > Neil Williams wrote: > > > > > gtk+extra2 will FTBFS as soon as the functions that will be removed in > > > GTK+3.0 become deprecated in GTK+2.0. GTK+2.0 doesn't have

Re: ia32-libs depends on ia32-apt-get ?

On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 09:31:24PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Mark Brown writes: > > There seems to be at least some crossover between the people who were > > looking at multiarch and the people doing this stuff. > But not the people blocking the inclusion of patches for multiarch > al

Re: ping for gtk+extra2 removal - implications for libgtkada2 and gpsim

Ludovic Brenta wrote: > So, my understanting was correct then: gtk-extra2 will FTBFS only when you > remove GTK+2 from Debian, not when you introduce GTK+3. Yes, but that will also mean package using gtk-extra2 will not be able to link to gtk3, which is what Neil was saying IIUC. > Joss, can you

Re: Bug#534507: ITP: kalternatives -- graphical alternatives system configuration tool

Hello, > I've skimmed over the sources, and it seems kalternatives is reading > and writting directly to the alternatives db (under > /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/). The db should be considered internal, > and we reserve the right to change its layout in the future. > > There's been recent changes t

Re: ia32-libs transition

Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le mardi 30 juin 2009 à 01:55 +0100, Aneurin Price a écrit : >> Is there any way of preventing this kind of major breakage in the future? >> I don't think many people expect that upgrading one package will FUBAR >> the packaging system. > > Report a critical bug against t

Re: ping for gtk+extra2 removal - implications for libgtkada2 and gpsim

Selon Emilio Pozuelo Monfort : > Ludovic Brenta wrote: >> So, my understanting was correct then: gtk-extra2 will FTBFS only when >> you remove GTK+2 from Debian, not when you introduce GTK+3. > > Yes, but that will also mean package using gtk-extra2 will not be able to > link to gtk3, which is wha

Re: ia32-libs transition

On 30/06/2009 Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > Did anyone who isn't on crack get to see 'ia32-apt-get.preinst' and > > 'ia32-apt-get.postinst' before they were perpetrated upon an unsuspecting > > populace? Reading them in the process of trying to unfuck my system made me > > feel more than slightly

Re: RFC round 3: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

Le Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 08:49:21AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : > On Tue, 30 Jun 2009, Charles Plessy wrote: > > * “The meta-information would be stored in a set of RFC-2822 compliant > > fields.” > > > > RFC-2822 distinguishes between “unstructured” and “structured” fields. The > > ‘Descript

Re: Bug#535143: ITP: gnome-do-docklets -- Dock applets for GNOME Do's "Docky" interface.

On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 02:37:51PM +1000, Christopher James Halse Rogers wrote: > * Package name: gnome-do-docklets > Version : 0.8.2 > Upstream Author : Jason Smith > * URL : http://do.davebsd.org/ This should be . -- brian m. carlson / brian

Sad news

Hello, Eitan Gurari, who created the TeX4HT system for converting from TeX/LaTeX to different forms of hypertext, has passed away. http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/news/news102.shtml This is indeed sad news. The TeX user community and more generally people who worked on preparing technical documen

Re: ia32-libs depends on ia32-apt-get ?

Steve Langasek writes: > On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 09:50:01PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Raphael Hertzog writes: > >> > There is work going on recently. Steve Langasek drafted a plan that he >> > wants to bring forward in Ubuntu Karmic Koala and it has been reviewed by >> > Guillem Jove

Re: ia32-libs depends on ia32-apt-get ?

Mark Brown writes: > On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 09:31:24PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Mark Brown writes: > >> > There seems to be at least some crossover between the people who were >> > looking at multiarch and the people doing this stuff. > >> But not the people blocking the inclusion

Re: RFC round 3: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

On Tue, 30 Jun 2009, Charles Plessy wrote: > -The meta-information would be stored in a set of RFC-2822 compliant > -fields. Those fields should start on the first non-empty line (after > -having stripped whitespace characters at the start and end of lines). > +The meta-information would be stored

Re: ia32-libs transition

Didier 'OdyX' Raboud writes: > Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > >> Aneurin Price writes: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I've just spent over an hour writing and rewriting this mail, and >>> determined that I can't think of a single constructive thing to say. >>> >>> So I'll just ask a couple of questions inst

Re: ia32-libs transition

Josselin Mouette writes: > Le mardi 30 juin 2009 à 01:55 +0100, Aneurin Price a écrit : >> Is there any way of preventing this kind of major breakage in the future? >> I don't think many people expect that upgrading one package will FUBAR >> the packaging system. > > Report a critical bug again

Re: ia32-libs depends on ia32-apt-get ?

Le mardi 30 juin 2009 à 18:52 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow a écrit : > Please stop confusing ia32-apt-get with multiarch. It clearly is a > kludge to keep 32bit binaries working till there is multiarch. It is > not ment as a replacement. No, it is not a kludge. It is a horrible pile of trash. ia32

Re: ia32-libs depends on ia32-apt-get ?

On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 06:56:11PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Mark Brown writes: > > Then bring that up and try to move the discussion forward (as now seems > > to be happening). The approach that's currently being pused seems like > > a blind alley. > People really do seem to confuse

Re: ia32-libs transition

Jonas Meurer writes: > On 30/06/2009 Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> > Did anyone who isn't on crack get to see 'ia32-apt-get.preinst' and >> > 'ia32-apt-get.postinst' before they were perpetrated upon an unsuspecting >> > populace? Reading them in the process of trying to unfuck my system made me

Re: Multiarch

Steve Langasek writes: > On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 09:02:05PM +0100, Matthew Johnson wrote: >> I've also CC'd Hector and Steve who are listed as owners on that >> document because whatever we do to get multiarch working (and I have no >> strong views on the right way to do it) we should definitely

Re: ia32-libs transition

Didier 'OdyX' Raboud writes: > Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > >> Aneurin Price writes: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I've just spent over an hour writing and rewriting this mail, and >>> determined that I can't think of a single constructive thing to say. >>> >>> So I'll just ask a couple of questions inst

Re: ia32-libs depends on ia32-apt-get ?

Josselin Mouette writes: > Le mardi 30 juin 2009 à 18:52 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow a écrit : >> Please stop confusing ia32-apt-get with multiarch. It clearly is a >> kludge to keep 32bit binaries working till there is multiarch. It is >> not ment as a replacement. > > No, it is not a kludge.

Bug#535206: ITP: libpcapnav -- wrapper to libpcap

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Joao Eriberto Mota Filho * Package name: libpcapnav Version : 0.8 Upstream Author : Christian Kreibich * URL : http://netdude.sourceforge.net * License : specific Description : wrapper to libpcap libpcap wrapper l

Re: ping for gtk+extra2 removal - implications for libgtkada2 and gpsim

Ludovic Brenta wrote: > OK, I think that explains it. Here is what I propose: > > - I will adopt the package gtk+extra and maintain it in Debian for as long as > GTK+2 is in Debian and libgtkada2 needs it. > - I will not update the package to use GTK+3. > - I will prominently mark the package as

Re: ping for gtk+extra2 removal - implications for libgtkada2 and gpsim

On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:30:41 +0200 Ludovic Brenta wrote: > > Yes, but that will also mean package using gtk-extra2 will not be > > able to link to gtk3, which is what Neil was saying IIUC. > > OK, not a big deal for as long as GTK+2 remains in Debian. The main point is that using gtk+extra2 in

Re: ia32-libs transition

On 11797 March 1977, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Will you do security support and regular uploads for it too? Or just a > one shot upload? Will you stand against ftp-masters whish to remove > it? You are actively working with all you can do to not only let us hate it but actually consider remov

Re: ping for gtk+extra2 removal - implications for libgtkada2 and gpsim

Le mardi 30 juin 2009 à 19:44 +0100, Neil Williams a écrit : > The main point is that using gtk+extra2 in an application makes it very > difficult to migrate that package to GTK+3.0 so I really don't want new > applications to use gtk+extra2. They should be migrated to use the widgets that already

Re: ping for gtk+extra2 removal - implications for libgtkada2 and gpsim

Neil Williams wrote: > On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:30:41 +0200 > Ludovic Brenta wrote: >> - I will prominently mark the package as deprecated and discourage >> new packages from using it. As part of this I will move the package >> to main/oldlibs. > > A note in the description is one way but are there

Re: ia32-libs transition

Joerg Jaspert wrote: > On 11797 March 1977, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > >> Will you do security support and regular uploads for it too? Or just a >> one shot upload? Will you stand against ftp-masters whish to remove >> it? > > You are actively working with all you can do to not only let us ha

Re: Multiarch

On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 07:36:03PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Thanks for clarifying that. Didn't sound like that before. > Do you have any minutes of the meeting you could include in the > debian wiki? The spec is the synthesis of what was discussed during the meeting. The live minutes

Re: ia32-libs transition

>>> Will you do security support and regular uploads for it too? Or just a >>> one shot upload? Will you stand against ftp-masters whish to remove >>> it? >> You are actively working with all you can do to not only let us hate it >> but actually consider removing it completly. Good job. > Not bein

[Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)]

Hi Below the content of a bounce I got when replying to a wanna-build request... blacklisting domains seems to be accepted as the ones in control of its mailservers should be able to fix possible issues, but blacklisting all mail based on the country part of a domain??! I guess it's another sign

Bug#535224: ITP: libnetdude -- framework to netdude program

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Joao Eriberto Mota Filho * Package name: libnetdude Version : 0.11 Upstream Author : Christian Kreibich * URL : http://netdude.sourceforge.net * License : specific Description : framework to netdude program libne

Re: ia32-libs transition

On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 05:11, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Aneurin Price writes: > >> Hi, >> >> I've just spent over an hour writing and rewriting this mail, and determined >> that I can't think of a single constructive thing to say. Not wanting to leave it at that, I've spent a couple of hours

Bug#535233: ITP: collectl -- Initial package request

Package: collectl Version: 3.3.4 Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org *** Please type your report below this line *** I wish to work on creating a debian package for collectl-3.3.4 License: GPL, ARTISTIC -- System Information: Debian Release: 5.0.1 APT prefers testin

Re: ia32-libs depends on ia32-apt-get ?

On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 06:52:34PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > Patches implementing what? I don't see any public discussion of an agreed > > design for the package manager. > Patches for dpkg to accept the Multi-Arch field as a tristate of Yes, > No or missing and for packages to set t

Re: RFC round 3: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

Bonjour Raphaël, Thank you for the feedback. It made me understood that the format can be even simplified. First of all, let me clarify that I do not aim at describing the format of Debian control files, but the proposed format for DEP5, which I propose for DEP3 as well since it is simple and does

Re: [Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)]

On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 11:17:54PM +0200, Luk Claes wrote: > Below the content of a bounce I got when replying to a wanna-build > request... blacklisting domains seems to be accepted as the ones in > control of its mailservers should be able to fix possible issues, but > blacklisting all mail base

Re: ia32-libs transition

Yannick writes: > Maybe all of this should go to experimental (is there a problem with wine > depending on experimental packages for amd64?) but thank you Goswin for your > work. > > Yannick The problem was that libc6-i386 broke all 32bit support in unstable making all 32bit packages uninstall

Bug#535242: ITP: architect -- Power Architect, is a cross-platform, open-source data modeling tool

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Murilo Habermann Torquato Package name: architect Version : 0.9.13 Upstream Author : SQL Power Group Inc URL : http://code.google.com/p/power-architect/ License : GPL Programming Lang: Java Description : Po

Re: Bug#534507: ITP: kalternatives -- graphical alternatives system configuration tool

Hi! On Tue, 2009-06-30 at 12:32:23 +0200, Pino Toscano wrote: > Few days ago, I had a nice talk with Guillem, and he told me that dpkg > developers are working for cleaning up update-alternatives' code, and > planning > to convert it to C (along with provide a dpkg library); since the previous

ITP: scim-bridge-el -- SCIM-Bridge client for GNU Emacs

Package: wnpp Owner: Takaya Yamashita Severity: wishlist * Package name: scim-bridge-el Version : 0.7.4-1 Upstream Author : S. Irie * URL or Web page : http://www11.atwiki.jp/s-irie/pages/12.html * License : GPL2 Description : SCIM-Bridge client for GNU Emacs The S

Re: ia32-libs transition

Aneurin Price writes: > On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 05:11, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Aneurin Price writes: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I've just spent over an hour writing and rewriting this mail, and determined >>> that I can't think of a single constructive thing to say. > > Not wanting to leave it at

Re: ia32-libs depends on ia32-apt-get ?

Steve Langasek writes: > On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 06:52:34PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Look at perl for example: > >> Package: perl-base >> Provides: perlapi-5.10.0 > >> I suggest to also provide perlabi-$(DEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE) or >> perlabi-5.10.0-$(DEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE). Perl extensions th

upload debian package error

Hi I try to upload xburst-tools[1], I have two warning and one error. my question is 1. the version number must 1.0.0(like that). can I use 2009.06(something like that to be a version) 2. I am not a maintainer. but I want to be this package's maintainer. can I add my name and email to the cont