Re: [RFC] Changing priority of selinux back to optional

2008-02-07 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 07:02:40 +0100, Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I slightly disagree. Not that I have doubts about your commitment, but > this entire discussion showed that SELinux is, right now, not ready > for being included in default installs. As D-I is preparing a beta > rele

Re: How to cope with patches sanely

2008-02-07 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 05:12:00AM +, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:00:52 +, Matthew Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > On Tue Feb 05 00:51, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >> > If we can't figure out a good and clean way to keep a large stack > >> > of long-lived patches

Re: [RFC] Changing priority of selinux back to optional

2008-02-07 Thread Václav Ovsík
On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 11:43:54PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > I don't think Lenny is in shape for a release either. It took > me about a day to get most SELinux packages back up to date -- which > means we could have them updated anytmime in the last few months, if > any one had

Re: unknown-field-in-control homepage

2008-02-07 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008, Guillem Jover wrote: > > If nobody has any objections, i'll follow Frans' advice and file a bug > > against dpkg-dev. > > Yes, makes sense. I've just fixed it in dpkg's git [0]. Except it will only work if the package uses 'Package-Type' and not 'X*-Package-Type'. We should m

Release: KNOPPIX5.1.1 for Trusted Compuintg Geeks (v1.0)

2008-02-07 Thread Kuniyasu Suzaki
Dear, We released KNOPPIX5.1.1 for Trusted Computing Geeks (v1.0). http://unit.aist.go.jp/itri/knoppix/index-en.html It includes trusted computing software based on TPM(Trusted Platform Module). Debian packages on KNOPPIX is validated by Remote Attestation. OpenPlatformTrustServices is includ

Re: [RFC] Changing priority of selinux back to optional

2008-02-07 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 10:10:19 +0100, Václav Ovsík <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 11:43:54PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> I don't think Lenny is in shape for a release either. It took me >> about a day to get most SELinux packages back up to date -- which >> means we could

Is Christian Meder MIA?

2008-02-07 Thread Walter Franzini
Hi, in the past months I've tryied to contact Christian Meder ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) without success. He is the maintainer of the aegis packages. His last upload for aegis is dated 2006-05-14 and in the meantime the upstream team has done two stable updates and the release of the next major version

Re: [RFC] Changing priority of selinux back to optional

2008-02-07 Thread Václav Ovsík
On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 04:34:58AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >.. > Well, don't bother with the SELinux packages; most of them are > already in Incoming, though I am not packaging straight out of SVN yet. > I'm sticking to the released versions, until I can see a clear need to > go

Re: Bug#464392: ITP: libdebian-package-make-perl -- Perl extension for autobuilding Debian packages

2008-02-07 Thread Hilko Bengen
Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Quoting Hilko Bengen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): >> Description : Perl extension for autobuilding Debian packages > > I suggest "s/Debian/.deb" > > That would prevent derivative distributions to embark something that > is less meaningful for them. I

Re: How to cope with patches sanely

2008-02-07 Thread Matthew Johnson
On Thu Feb 07 22:42, Ben Finney wrote: > In the scenario Manoj presents above, the modifications applied to > upstream are easily available all in one place: the foo.diff.gz. But all as one patch, not as your nice separated list of commits and/or branches. > Whereas with a patch bundle system,

Re: How to cope with patches sanely

2008-02-07 Thread Ben Finney
Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 05:12:00AM +, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > Why should I bring my feature branches into a patch system, when > > there is no need to? As far as the end user or NMUer is ocnerned, they > > do apt-get source foo, and

Re: Bug#464169: ITP: vagalume -- A GTK+-based Last.fm client

2008-02-07 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/06/08 22:45, Christian Perrier wrote: > Quoting Alberto Garcia ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): [snip] >> >> Also, if a user doesn't know what GTK+ is, he/she probably won't >> expect a radio player being non-graphical ... >> >> There are very few non-graphi

Re: [RFC] Changing priority of selinux back to optional

2008-02-07 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 06:49:20PM +0100, maximilian attems wrote: > but currently willing to work on i'd nack fjp requests. > of course if no progress has been made in a month, > his request is more then reasonable. I disagree that simply willingness can nack Frans' request. If the current situat

Re: [RFC] Changing priority of selinux back to optional

2008-02-07 Thread maximilian attems
On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 01:34:11PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 06:49:20PM +0100, maximilian attems wrote: > > but currently willing to work on i'd nack fjp requests. > > of course if no progress has been made in a month, > > his request is more then reasonable. > > I

Re: [RFC] Changing priority of selinux back to optional

2008-02-07 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 02:00:41PM +0100, maximilian attems wrote: > > I disagree that simply willingness can nack Frans' request. > > If the current situation is "bad", and I assume that trusting Frans' > > words, and it has been like that for long, then the request should be > > fulfilled now. La

Re: Trying to get in touch with Daniel Glassey about Bibledit package

2008-02-07 Thread Teus Benschop
Salvatore Bonaccorso wrote: Hi On Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 10:38:07PM +1000, Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: I've been trying to contact Daniel Glassey, the last-listed maintainer of the Bibledit Debian package. This package has fallen significantly behind the development of Bibledit. Daniel h

Re: ITP: libjs-prototype -- is a JavaScript Framework

2008-02-07 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Marcelo Jorge Vieira (metal) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: ! > > * Package name : libjs-prototype > Version: 1.6.0.2 > Upstream Author: Sam Stephenson > * URL: http://www.prototypejs.org/ > * License: MIT-style license

Re: Bug#464392: ITP: libdebian-package-make-perl -- Perl extension for autobuilding Debian packages

2008-02-07 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Hilko Bengen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > I just had a look at what the other kids are doing: > > dpkg: package maintenance system for Debian > dpkg-dev: package building tools for Debian > apt: Advanced front-end for dpkg > This is Debian's next generation front-end for the dpkg package >

Re: Bug#464392: ITP: libdebian-package-make-perl -- Perl extension for autobuilding Debian packages

2008-02-07 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 06:11:38PM +0100, Christian Perrier wrote: > > dpkg: package maintenance system for Debian > > dpkg-dev: package building tools for Debian > > apt: Advanced front-end for dpkg > > This is Debian's next generation front-end for the dpkg package > > manager. [...] >

Re: Proposition: 'NMU' upload of wxwidgets 2.8

2008-02-07 Thread Alex Samad
On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 09:19:05AM +0100, Richard Hartmann wrote: > On Feb 7, 2008 2:58 AM, Alex Samad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Sorry if I have broken protocol by taking this off list. I am interested in > > using 2.8, > > truecrypt relies upon this. > > No problem, though others might

Re: How to cope with patches sanely

2008-02-07 Thread Michael Banck
On Sat, Feb 02, 2008 at 10:26:52PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > Bah that's the worst reason I ever seen to not use a DVCS in Debian. > Please look at the debian packages with patches, and please tell me how > many come with a comment about what the patch do. Please start with the > glibc if yo

Re: How to cope with patches sanely

2008-02-07 Thread Russ Allbery
Michael Banck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Well, we sort of managed to get our debian/changelog entries more > readable due to social pressure, if we standardize on a patch exchange > format which mandates a description in the header, we can probably > continously improve the description of patch

Re: Copyright question (BSD with advertisement clause)

2008-02-07 Thread Russ Allbery
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I believe your reasoning is faulty, because it is based on incomplete > information. There was more than one "BSD" license in use well before > USB's Office of Technology Licensing withdrew the 4-clause version. [snip] While this is very interestin

Re: Copyright question (BSD with advertisement clause)

2008-02-07 Thread Russ Allbery
Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Le Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 10:27:55PM -0800, Russ Allbery a écrit : >> Am I missing something? > This ? > http://web.archive.org/web/19990210065944/http://www.debian.org/misc/bsd.license > http://web.archive.org/web/20001205083200/http://www.debian.org/m

Re: Bug#464551: general: USB devices missing in lsusb

2008-02-07 Thread Bas Wijnen
On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 09:14:09PM +0500, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: >> Some of the USB devices I have, are missing in lsusb list, this ussue >> is in Testing and Unstable. >> In Ubuntu Linux and Debian Etch all my devices are listed. > > I suspect that there is some problem with udev (assuming

Bug#464551: general: USB devices missing in lsusb

2008-02-07 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Rafael wrote: Package: general Severity: normal Some of the USB devices I have, are missing in lsusb list, this ussue is in Testing and Unstable. In Ubuntu Linux and Debian Etch all my devices are listed. I suspect that there is some problem with udev (assuming that you have done your tests

Bug#464551: general: USB devices missing in lsusb

2008-02-07 Thread Rafael
Package: general Severity: normal Some of the USB devices I have, are missing in lsusb list, this ussue is in Testing and Unstable. In Ubuntu Linux and Debian Etch all my devices are listed. I have done some tests: I start Debian. I run lsusb and i see my three USB devices listed: scanner, mode

Re: Trying to get in touch with Daniel Glassey about Bibledit package

2008-02-07 Thread Salvatore Bonaccorso
Hi On Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 10:38:07PM +1000, Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: > I've been trying to contact Daniel Glassey, the last-listed maintainer > of the Bibledit Debian package. This package has fallen significantly > behind the development of Bibledit. Daniel has not answered my emails, >

Re: unknown-field-in-control homepage

2008-02-07 Thread Guillem Jover
On Thu, 2008-02-07 at 10:23:51 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Except it will only work if the package uses 'Package-Type' and not > 'X*-Package-Type'. X*B*-Package-Type should work as well. regards, guillem -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble

ITP: libjs-scriptaculous -- is a user interface JavaScript libraries

2008-02-07 Thread Marcelo Jorge Vieira (metal)
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Marcelo Jorge Vieira (metal) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name : libjs-scriptaculous Version: 1.8.1 Upstream Author: Thomas Fuchs * URL: http://script.aculo.us/ * License: MIT-style license Description: is a user inte

Re: [RFC] Changing priority of selinux back to optional

2008-02-07 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Andreas Tille ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): >> Being >> something not really end user-oriented, that would have to be a >> "hidden" task (not shown as a choice by tasksel) that one could choose >> with the appropriate D-I boot option. > > Hmmm, why hidden? In how far are other tasks more or less u

Re: dpatch -> quilt

2008-02-07 Thread gregor herrmann
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 23:07:00 +0100, Sven Mueller wrote: > > * script (but svn-centric): > > > > http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-perl/scripts/dpatch2quilt?op=file&rev=0&sc=0 > The script should (IMHO) make sure QUILT_PATCHES is set correctly. > (Cc'ing dmn because of this) Good catch, thanks! F

Re: dpatch -> quilt

2008-02-07 Thread sean finney
On Thursday 07 February 2008 11:07:00 pm Sven Mueller wrote: > However, I wonder wether quilt has any way (through a known wrapper > perhaps) to support the thing I like (though I'm not too attached to > that feature) with dpatch: > Being able to keep only debian/* in the repository along with the

Re: Re: [RFC] Changing priority of selinux back to optional

2008-02-07 Thread Erich Schubert
Thanks, Manoj, for this powerful 'comeback'. Looks like you've updated most of the packages already; at least the non-GUI ones (which are the ones I care most about, I never really got the hang of the UI apps). Don't forget we'll also (AFAIK) need updates to PAM and OpenSSH. These two are very impo

Re: Proposition: 'NMU' upload of wxwidgets 2.8

2008-02-07 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Feb 7, 2008 8:52 PM, Alex Samad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry for being naive but why these ones ? Who is Bastian Kleineidam He is a DD, so I chose his packages over wxwidget's on the assumption that he is more familiar with packaging. Feel free to try the other one and decide if obe sui

Re: Copyright question (BSD with advertisement clause)

2008-02-07 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 10:27:55PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hm, I could have sworn that the DFSG predated the Constitution and hence > predated the existence of the three-clause BSD license. UCB dropped the > advertising clause in July of 1999 and the D

ITP: libjs-prototype -- is a JavaScript Framework

2008-02-07 Thread Marcelo Jorge Vieira (metal)
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: ! * Package name : libjs-prototype Version: 1.6.0.2 Upstream Author: Sam Stephenson * URL: http://www.prototypejs.org/ * License: MIT-style license Description: is a JavaScript Framework that aims to ease development

Re: Bug#464551: general: USB devices missing in lsusb

2008-02-07 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 05:49:37PM +0100, Bas Wijnen wrote: > On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 09:14:09PM +0500, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: > >> Some of the USB devices I have, are missing in lsusb list, this ussue > >> is in Testing and Unstable. > >> In Ubuntu Linux and Debian Etch all my devices are l

Re: dpatch -> quilt

2008-02-07 Thread Sven Mueller
gregor herrmann schrieb: > On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 09:09:28 +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: > >> Is there any easy conversion from dpatch to quilt for a given package >> that is using dpatch? > > The following two links might give an idea: > * manual conversion: > > http://blog.orebokech.com/2007/08/c

RFC: dh_installxmlcatalogs: add ability to read catalog.xml files directly

2008-02-07 Thread Daniel Leidert
x-post to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] - fup2 where it fits best (I read all lists) - probably debian-sgml Hello, There is an item I have on my TODO list for some time now regarding the way dh_installxmlcatalogs works. ATM package maintainers have to manually write t

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Re: Bug#464169: ITP: vagalume -- A GTK+-based Last.fm client

2008-02-07 Thread Alberto Garcia
On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 05:45:42AM +0100, Christian Perrier wrote: > Saying that something is GTK-based is probably meaningful for the > average geek. It means nothing for the average user. This is what I > call jargon. > > Our package descriptions should help all users to answer the simple > que

Re: Copyright question (BSD with advertisement clause)

2008-02-07 Thread Branden Robinson
[You didn't honor my M-F-T so I guess this will continue to go to both lists.] On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 12:29:29PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I believe your reasoning is faulty, because it is based on incomplete > > information. There was more

Re: Copyright question (BSD with advertisement clause)

2008-02-07 Thread Russ Allbery
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [You didn't honor my M-F-T so I guess this will continue to go to both > lists.] Indeed. > On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 12:29:29PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: >> The version in /usr/share/common-licenses/BSD is very specifically the >> UCB version, > A m

Work-needing packages report for Feb 8, 2008

2008-02-07 Thread wnpp
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the last week. Total number of orphaned packages: 300 (new: 8) Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 92 (new: 0) Total number of packages requeste

Re: Bug#464392: ITP: libdebian-package-make-perl -- Perl extension for autobuilding Debian packages

2008-02-07 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Steve Langasek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > dh-make: tool that converts source archives into Debian package source > > > dh-make-perl: Create Debian packages from perl modules > > > Well, them doing this does not necessarily mean they are right. > > .debs are commonly referred to as "Debia

Re: Bug#464169: ITP: vagalume -- A GTK+-based Last.fm client

2008-02-07 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Alberto Garcia ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > So we have: > > "A small GTK+-based client for the Last.fm online radio" > "A GTK+-based client for the Last.fm online radio" > "A small client for the Last.fm online radio" I'd go for the second choice (you half-convinced me, guys)without the l