Re: Two proposals for a better Lenny (testing related).

On 14/06/07 at 08:31 +0200, Frank Küster wrote: > Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I think that a package that has been in unstable for a whole release > > cycle without entering testing should probably live in experimental or > > not in Debian at all. I guess that is someth

Re: Two proposals for a better Lenny (testing related).

On Thu, 14 Jun 2007, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Wed, 13 Jun 2007, Felipe Sateler wrote: > > PS: I do agree that it would be nice if there was a way to automatically > > bring in the modules you are using for the new version, or at least warn, > > but I can't seem to figure out a nice and elegant w

Re: Two proposals for a better Lenny (testing related).

Lucas Nussbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hm, I was tempted to think "yes, of course", but how about foo-snapshot >> or bar-cvs? Why shouldn't they be in unstable, autobuilt > > I think that such packages are OK in unstable, but some might argue that > they should go in experimental. > >> and

Status of circular dependencies in Sid

Hello Debian developers, Here the lists of packages involved in circular dependencies listed by maintainers. This list is also available at (updated daily, courtesy of Robert Lemmen). A list of dependencies including dependency graphs is ava

Re: How to package software with binaries in tarball?

On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 06:57:10AM +0400, Sergei Golovan wrote: > Is get-orig-source target in debian/rules, which fetches and repacks > orig.tar.gz sufficient? I guess it should be. Sure, if debian/copyright mentions it. debian/copyright is _always_ the canonical place for “where does this .orig.

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 08:45:13PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > The meaning of 1 TB is approximate only for approximate people. I'd > expect more rigor from people working in computer science (if we can > call it a science). ... and since most Debian users are not computer scientists, Scott i

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

Le jeudi 14 juin 2007 à 12:15 +0200, Gabor Gombas a écrit : > On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 08:45:13PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > > The meaning of 1 TB is approximate only for approximate people. I'd > > expect more rigor from people working in computer science (if we can > > call it a science).

O: xscreensaver -- is now orphaned

FYI: - Forwarded message from Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - From: Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 12:40:26 +0200 To: Ralf Hildebrandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Bug#428798: xscreensaver: New upstream version available Hi Ralf

Bug#428813: O: xscreensaver

Package: wnpp Severity: normal I'd like to orphan the package since I cannot find the time to maintain it anymore. -- System Information: Debian Release: lenny/sid APT prefers testing APT policy: (990, 'testing'), (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: i386 (i686) Kernel: Linu

Re: Two proposals for a better Lenny (testing related).

* Luis Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [2007-06-14 1:14 +0100]: > Qui, 2007-06-14 às 01:04 +0200, Emanuele Rocca escreveu: > > Another option could be calling each snapshot cut -MM, or cut > > -MM-DD if we plan to release them more than once per month. > > this makes the snapshots just li

Re: How to package software with binaries in tarball?

* Steinar H. Gunderson [Thu, 14 Jun 2007 11:46:08 +0200]: > On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 06:57:10AM +0400, Sergei Golovan wrote: > > Is get-orig-source target in debian/rules, which fetches and repacks > > orig.tar.gz sufficient? I guess it should be. > Sure, if debian/copyright mentions it. debian/co

Re: Two proposals for a better Lenny (testing related).

Qua, 2007-06-13 às 20:27 -0400, Felipe Sateler escreveu: > Luis Matos wrote: > > > Qua, 2007-06-13 às 18:09 -0400, Felipe Sateler escreveu: > >> Installing a newer kernel is not an upgrade, in a sense. You are > >> installing new software alongside the old one. Thus the usual > >> expectations don

Re: Two proposals for a better Lenny (testing related).

Qua, 2007-06-13 às 17:49 -0700, Steve Langasek escreveu: > On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 05:32:01PM +0100, Luis Matos wrote: > > > > > Um, no. That does not happen automatically. In rare cases it happens > > > > > because the release team has overridden the installability check for a > > > > > package,

Re: Two proposals for a better Lenny (testing related).

Qui, 2007-06-14 às 13:08 +0200, Emanuele Rocca escreveu: > * Luis Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [2007-06-14 1:14 +0100]: > > Qui, 2007-06-14 às 01:04 +0200, Emanuele Rocca escreveu: > > > Another option could be calling each snapshot cut -MM, or cut > > > -MM-DD if we plan to release them

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Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

Perhaps transforming it into a localization problem would do the trick. This way, users would be able to set their preference on byte-count in the same place as their preference on currency, decimal, and am/pm vs 24h. Applications could make use of the localization settings to calculate the amo

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

Perhaps transforming it into a localization problem would do the trick. This way, users would be able to set their preference on byte-count in the same place as their preference on currency, decimal, and am/pm vs 24h. Applications could make use of the localization settings to calculate the amount

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

On Thu, 14 Jun 2007, Ben Finney wrote: Ivan Jager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: On Wed, 13 Jun 2007, Alex Jones wrote: 1 TB is not rounded. It means precisely 1 × 10^12 bytes, no more and no less. If they want to actually put 1.024 TB on the disk then they can say 1 TB (approx.) like any other i

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

On Wed, 13 Jun 2007, Wesley J. Landaker wrote: On Wednesday 13 June 2007 14:03:51 Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: On Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 05:33:12PM -0600, Wesley J. Landaker wrote: Even in the US all legitimate science and engineering is done in SI units. Suurre... That's why in 1999 the NASA Mar

Re: Two proposals for a better Lenny (testing related).

Le jeudi 14 juin 2007 à 14:33 +0100, Luis Matos a écrit : > I just want that automatic passages from unstable for testing, when > debian is not in a pre-stable-release state have more verifications such > as reverse depends. I really don't understand what checks you want to add over those already

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

Ivan Jager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, 14 Jun 2007, Ben Finney wrote: > > Since we *can* give a perfectly precise quantity of bytes and > > other digital phenomena, and often do, this is even more reason to > > use the precise meaning of the units for those quantities. > > Ok, so this ap

Re: Best practices for cron jobs?

On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 08:46:42PM +0200, sean finney wrote: > On Wednesday 13 June 2007 06:28:09 Duncan Findlay wrote: > > I imagine it would be relatively simple to have the postinst generate > > a random time during the day for a cron script to run, but this > > doesn't work with anacron -- man

Bug#428855: ITP: webkit -- HTML rendering engine library

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: webkit Version : svn snapshot Upstream Author : Apple Computer Inc. * URL : http://www.webkit.org/ * License : mixed LGPL and BSD Programming Lang: C, C++ Description

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

David Verhasselt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Perhaps transforming it into a localization problem would do the > trick. This way, users would be able to set their preference on > byte-count in the same place as their preference on currency, > decimal, and am/pm vs 24h. Applications could make us

Re: Two proposals for a better Lenny (testing related).

On 6/14/07, Luis Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: having a working system *with* only debian *oficial* packages and then after an upgrade that system stops working properly, i call it a regression ... if ... *if* i had used module-assistant to use nvidia graphics (or camera modules, or wifi, or

Re: Bug#428855: ITP: webkit -- HTML rendering engine library

On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 07:39:37PM +0200, Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > * Package name: webkit > Version : svn snapshot > Upstream Author : Apple Computer Inc. > * URL : http://ww

Re: Two proposals for a better Lenny (testing related).

Luis Matos wrote: > not true. there are meta pckages that do that for me. > kernel has linux-image-2.6-k8 (for example), modules have > name-module-2.6-k8 . I had forgotten that those existed. I have always installed my modules and kernels directly. Taking those into account, what you say would h

Re: Two proposals for a better Lenny (testing related).

Qui, 2007-06-14 às 19:18 +0200, Josselin Mouette escreveu: > Le jeudi 14 juin 2007 à 14:33 +0100, Luis Matos a écrit : > > I just want that automatic passages from unstable for testing, when > > debian is not in a pre-stable-release state have more verifications such > > as reverse depends. > > I

Bug#428861: ITP: oreon -- A monitoring solution based on Nagios

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Yann Rouillard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: oreon Version : 1.4 * URL : http://www.oreon-project.org/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: Php Description : A monitoring solution based on Nagios Quoting the web

Re: Two proposals for a better Lenny (testing related).

Qui, 2007-06-14 às 20:10 +0200, Martijn van Oosterhout escreveu: > I explicitly check to see if there's a kernel upgrade and abort if > that's the case, as I do not have the time to sort out the mess before > the next reboot. Ideally, it could just install, without having it > automatically used ne

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

Ben Finney wrote: David Verhasselt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Perhaps transforming it into a localization problem would do the trick. This way, users would be able to set their preference on byte-count in the same place as their preference on currency, decimal, and am/pm vs 24h. Applicatio

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

On Thu, 2007-06-14 at 20:15 +0200, David Verhasselt wrote: > Yes, but the fact is that there are apparently a lot of different > opinions on what should be used. Therefore why not agree to disagree, > and let the user decide what they want to use. Make a centralized system > that converts an arb

Re: What happened to Agnula.org (DeMuDi)?

Am Dienstag 09 Januar 2007 08:44 schrieb Nico Golde: > http://www.agnula.info/ seems to be the new domain. > Kind regards > Nico Hi Nico, thanks for the information. I cite "IMPORTANT: The AGNULA/DeMuDi project is at the moment not active and no further release of the relevant distribution is c

Re: Two proposals for a better Lenny (testing related).

* Luis Matos ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070614 20:20]: > Qui, 2007-06-14 às 19:18 +0200, Josselin Mouette escreveu: > > Le jeudi 14 juin 2007 à 14:33 +0100, Luis Matos a écrit : > > > I just want that automatic passages from unstable for testing, when > > > debian is not in a pre-stable-release state hav

Re: Bug#428855: ITP: webkit -- HTML rendering engine library

On 06/14/07 13:11, Mike Hommey wrote: On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 07:39:37PM +0200, Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: webkit Version : svn snapshot Upstream Author : Apple Computer Inc. * UR

Re: Bug#428855: ITP: webkit -- HTML rendering engine library

On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 03:23:26PM -0500, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >A private reply to this ITP made me realize I didn't specify it: both > >the QT and Gtk backend will be provided. > > In the same package? If so, wouldn't that possible pull in packages > unneeded by the rest of

Bug#428877: ITP: callweaver -- Community-driven open source PBX software

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Debian VoIP Team" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: callweaver Version : 1.2.0~rc4 * URL : http://callweaver.org/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Description : Community-driven open source PBX software CallWe

Re: Two proposals for a better Lenny (testing related).

On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 07:18:34PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le jeudi 14 juin 2007 à 14:33 +0100, Luis Matos a écrit : > > I just want that automatic passages from unstable for testing, when > > debian is not in a pre-stable-release state have more verifications such > > as reverse depends.

Re: Two proposals for a better Lenny (testing related).

On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 02:33:32PM +0100, Luis Matos wrote: > > > > > kernel upgrades from 2.6.50 to 2.6.51 ... nvidia packages don't build > > > > > in > > > > > time (they are not free, right?) ... kernel passes to testing ... > > > > That doesn't happen. > > > well ... it happened to me befor

Current policy about statically linked binaries

Hello, I recently filed a bug against recoll (#427783) because it was statically linked against libxapian. Although it is now dynamically linked and the bug is closed, I wonder if there really is a clear policy on the subject. I was sure there was bound to be something about this in the Debia

Re: Consequences of the removal of Experimental.

On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 17:07:14 +0200, Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 10:57:17PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: >> but they would lose the autobuilding from buildd.net. > > which doesn't work properly anyways. The experimental buildd network >is at best a joke.

Re: Two proposals for a better Lenny (testing related).

Qui, 2007-06-14 às 14:40 -0700, Steve Langasek escreveu: > It's an example that does not support your thesis. I have explained > to you > that packages are *not* propagated automatically to testing when they > break > the installability of other packages present in testing; that the > nvidia > mod

Re: Two proposals for a better Lenny (testing related).

On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 08:10:08PM +0200, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > Actually, it seems to me the real problem is that when a new kernel is > installed it is immediately used by the bootloader on the next reboot, > without asking. That's because you installed the meta-package, saying "I want

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > A GiB is the same in any locale, and has the same display -- "GiB" > -- in any locale. Displaying it another way is misleading. I'm informed that this may not be the case. Consider the statement modified to: "A GiB is the same in any locale, and displaying

Re: Two proposals for a better Lenny (testing related).

Michael Banck wrote: > On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 08:10:08PM +0200, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: >> Actually, it seems to me the real problem is that when a new kernel is >> installed it is immediately used by the bootloader on the next reboot, >> without asking. > > That's because you installed th

Re: Bug#427297: ITP: sturmbahnfahrer -- simulated obstacle course for automobiles

Klaus Ethgen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So please calm down and come back to the reality and do not try to see > nazis in all thinks in the world. Amen. I'm reminded of vehement protests over a public official's use of the word "niggardly"... -Miles -- `To alcohol! The cause of, and soluti

[ITH] bioperl

Dear developpers, I am preparing an update to the Debian bioperl package, from upstream version 1.4.0 to 1.5.2. The current maintainer, Matt Hope, is not active this year. The updated package will be maintained by the Debian-Med packaging team, and is already in our SVN: http://svn.debian.org/wsv

Work-needing packages report for Jun 15, 2007

The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the last week. Total number of orphaned packages: 401 (new: 7) Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 88 (new: 8) Total number of packages requeste

Re: Bug#428877: ITP: callweaver -- Community-driven open source PBX software

Santiago Ruano Rincón wrote: > CallWeaver is a community-driven vendor-independent cross-platform open > source PBX software project (formerly known as OpenPBX.org). It was > originally derived from Asterisk. Now it supports analog and digital > PSTN telephony, multi-protocol voice over IP telephon