Michael Vogt schrieb am Montag, den 11. Juni 2007:
Hi,
*snip*
> [..]
> > - automatic installation of recommends like aptitude
> [..]
>
> This is currently turned off because of the concerns raised. its a
> matter of changing the default of "APT::Install-Recommends" to true.
>
> I want to turn
Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Another widely misunderstood feature of aptitude is the ability to
> handle packages installed as dependencies. It's pretty often badly
> understoood and leads to horror stories floating around of "aptitude
> wants to remove half of the system" while
On 10 Jun 2007, at 6:38 pm, Steffen Moeller wrote:
On Sunday 10 June 2007 17:20:54 you wrote:
On 9 Jun 2007, at 11:27 am, Steffen Moeller wrote:
Once a (computational) biologist starts a new
project, (s)he wants the latest data no matter what and anything
older than
three months (or a week so
On Mon, 11 Jun 2007, Alexander Wirt wrote:
> > I want to turn it on by default in the near future, but with a
> > reasonable warning time for the transition.
> Please never make it a default. Humans make errors and I never want packages
> installed by default. I consider this really a dangerous opt
On Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 10:41:43AM +0200, Paul van Tilburg wrote:
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Since "proposed-updates" contain only approved updates for the next stable
release it make sense to add it to the sources.lists (at least for some
users).
I have done so and I'm discovering a little quirk related to its use.
Until now I had etch + propose
Hi all,
Please look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix . I
put a bug up for it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/119822 &
Aaron helpfully said it needs more discussion. I have had great
support from libtorrent code.rasterbar.com as well as the guys at
deluge http://dev.deluge-
Ugh,
The second example I wanted to give was of libburnia
http://libburnia-project.org/changeset/877 . Sorry
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On Mon, 11 Jun 2007, Alexander Wirt wrote:
> Please never make it a default. Humans make errors and I never want packages
Recommends *are* to be installed by default, unless you specifically tell
the tool not to. This is the whole point, one that has been broken for a
few *years* now and has cause
On Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 06:08:44PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote:
> Really? I'd have guessed that most people used aptitude. I can't imagine
> anyone preferring synaptic to aptitude. Of course, I don't really
> understand why anyone prefers [any graphical MUA] to mutt, or [any
> graphical newsreader
On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 01:01:18PM +0200, Gabor Gombas wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 11:36:57AM +0100, Luis Matos wrote:
>
> > i have 2 servers that i only login for apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
> > -y, they are running sarge (yet) and only install security upgrades.
> >
> > These 2 serve
shirish wrote:
Hi all,
Please look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix . I
put a bug up for it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/119822 &
Aaron helpfully said it needs more discussion. I have had great
support from libtorrent code.rasterbar.com as well as the guys at
deluge h
Le lundi 11 juin 2007 à 18:27 +0530, shirish a écrit :
> Hi all,
> Please look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix . I
> put a bug up for it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/119822 &
> Aaron helpfully said it needs more discussion. I have had great
> support from libtorrent co
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On Monday 11 June 2007 14:57, shirish wrote:
> Please look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix . I
> put a bug up for it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/119822 &
> Aaron helpfully said it needs more discussion. I have had great
> support from libtorrent code.rasterbar.com as
Magnus Holmgren wrote:
I'm in favour! (But are you requesting that aptitude use SI prefixes
correctly, or that it use IEC (binary) prefixes?
I think we should go for the binary prefixes. Users will be confused
when they read 1k and notice that the package has 'just' 1000 bytes.
Plus, the 2^n
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Jun 2007, Alexander Wirt wrote:
>> Please never make it a default. Humans make errors and I never want packages
>
> Recommends *are* to be installed by default, unless you specifically tell
> the tool not to. This is the whole point, one that has bee
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On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 11:31:37AM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 10:27:26AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> > Diskspace *is* a problem for mirrors, as is bandwidth in many countries.
> > Also, you should think about this issue not just in the context of the
> > single package
On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 05:14:18PM +0200, Bastian Venthur wrote:
> Magnus Holmgren wrote:
>
> >I'm in favour! (But are you requesting that aptitude use SI prefixes
> >correctly, or that it use IEC (binary) prefixes?
>
> I think we should go for the binary prefixes. Users will be confused
> when
Raphael Hertzog schrieb am Montag, den 11. Juni 2007:
> On Mon, 11 Jun 2007, Alexander Wirt wrote:
> > > I want to turn it on by default in the near future, but with a
> > > reasonable warning time for the transition.
> > Please never make it a default. Humans make errors and I never want packages
shirish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> It isn't just ubuntu or debian but this needs to be done
> everywhere.
No it doesn't.
The "SI binary prefixes" are an abomination.
"Kibibytes"? Christ... [Did they try pronouncing these horrid things
when "standarizing" them?!?]
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Hi,
On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 05:39:54PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
> FWIW, synaptic has an option in its preferences dialog called "Consider
> recommended packages as dependencies", which is off by default.
>
> I completely agree, to treat Recommends as "weak dependencies" and
> install them by d
On Monday 11 June 2007 18:53, Miles Bader wrote:
> shirish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > It isn't just ubuntu or debian but this needs to be done
> > everywhere.
>
> No it doesn't.
>
> The "SI binary prefixes" are an abomination.
Why - besides pronunciation?
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On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 07:05:23PM +0200, Magnus Holmgren wrote:
> Why - besides pronunciation?
Aren't the names enough? :)
Maybe they could have called them Kilobin bytes and Megabin bytes or
something somewhat less awful sounding that they came up with. Did they
even talk to anyone that might
I prefer not to use these new prefixes, because the old ones only became
confused due to the efforts of drive manufacturers. Who are perfectly
capable (and equally financially motivated) of pulling the same trick
with the new units, standards body or no.
Also, the "ib" prefixes sound stupid. Furth
On Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 06:59:49PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 11:31:37AM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 10:27:26AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> > > Diskspace *is* a problem for mirrors, as is bandwidth in many countries.
>
On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 07:03:47AM +0200, Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > upgrade path for two releases now, with its Recommends: handling being a
> > major reason for this. I'd be surprised if there weren't at least *some*
> > users switching to it as a result.
>
>
> Developer
Joey Hess wrote:
I prefer not to use these new prefixes, because the old ones only became
confused due to the efforts of drive manufacturers. Who are perfectly
capable (and equally financially motivated) of pulling the same trick
with the new units, standards body or no.
Also, the "ib" prefixes
On 06/11/07 12:28, Mike Hommey wrote:
On Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 06:59:49PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 11:31:37AM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 10:27:26AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
Diskspace *is* a problem for mirrors, as is
On 10-Jun-07, 20:16 (CDT), Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 06:08:44PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote:
> > On 10-Jun-07, 17:47 (CDT), Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Since then, it seems like most users have switched to apt-get and
> > > synaptic,
On 11-Jun-07, 08:45 (CDT), Michael Banck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 06:08:44PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote:
> > Really? I'd have guessed that most people used aptitude. I can't imagine
> > anyone preferring synaptic to aptitude. Of course, I don't really
> > understand w
On Monday 11 June 2007 19:26, Joey Hess wrote:
> I prefer not to use these new prefixes, because the old ones only became
> confused due to the efforts of drive manufacturers. Who are perfectly
> capable (and equally financially motivated) of pulling the same trick
> with the new units, standards b
Hi,
* Bastian Venthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-06-11 20:09]:
[...]
> Ok, "sounds stupid" and "may not fit on 80 column" screen.
>
> I agree with the "sounds stupid" part, although I don't belive
> this is a valid argument. What I don't believe is your 80 colums
> argument. Could you please nam
On Monday 11 June 2007 20:06, Bastian Venthur wrote:
> I agree with the "sounds stupid" part, although I don't belive this is a
> valid argument. What I don't believe is your 80 colums argument. Could
> you please name a few of the *many* programs which would have to drop
> information, precision,
On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 07:28:13PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 06:59:49PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > A typical 300GB server-class hotpluggable SATA or SAS disk is quite a
> > bit more expensive than a typical desktop-class 500GB hard disk,
On Monday 11 June 2007 20:38, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
> On Monday 11 June 2007 20:06, Bastian Venthur wrote:
> > I agree with the "sounds stupid" part, although I don't belive this is a
> > valid argument. What I don't believe is your 80 colums argument. Could
> > you please name a few of the *many*
Bastian Venthur wrote:
> I agree with the "sounds stupid" part, although I don't belive this is a
> valid argument.
It's a perfectly valid argument for me to use to ignore a bad standard.
If the standard makes me talk funny, I will ignore it or make fun of it.
(Bibibibibibibibibibib.)
> What I
On Monday 11 June 2007 15:07, shirish wrote:
> Ugh,
>The second example I wanted to give was of libburnia
> http://libburnia-project.org/changeset/877 . Sorry
Uh, tell them that kiB should be KiB. Don't ask me why.
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On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 07:28:13PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote:
> Actual data seems to show the cheap desktop disks are not worse than
> so-called server-class disks.
My "actual data" does not back up your claim. Moreover, desktop-class
hard disks never support hotplugging, which you really want for
On Monday 11 June 2007 13:09:40 Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> That may be true when it comes to breakdowns. However, I challenge you
> to show me a "cheap" desktop disk that is also SCSI or SAS *and*
> hotpluggable.
While not SCSI or SAS, there are SATA controllers that support hotplugging
drives.
Magnus Holmgren wrote:
> I don't believe that to be true. There are other computer-related contexts
> where SI prefixes aren't used for powers of two, although perhaps most of
> them don't involve bytes. For an average user, knowing two sets of prefixes
> should be easier than knowing exactly in
Hallo,
On 6/11/07, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
No, I hate that convention. K and k should only ever refer to 1024.
Like in kg or km?
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Alex Queiroz wrote:
> Hallo,
>
> On 6/11/07, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >No, I hate that convention. K and k should only ever refer to 1024.
> >
>
> Like in kg or km?
This thread is about units of data.
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Hallo,
On 6/11/07, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Alex Queiroz wrote:
> Hallo,
>
> On 6/11/07, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >No, I hate that convention. K and k should only ever refer to 1024.
> >
>
> Like in kg or km?
This thread is about units of data.
The prefi
On Monday 11 June 2007 21:25, Joey Hess wrote:
> Magnus Holmgren wrote:
> > You seem to fancy the K-is-1024--k-is-1000 convention
>
> No, I hate that convention. K and k should only ever refer to 1024.
In that case you're just sloppy. Prefixes and symbols for units are case
sensitive.
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On Monday 11 June 2007 21:41, Joey Hess wrote:
> Alex Queiroz wrote:
> > On 6/11/07, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >No, I hate that convention. K and k should only ever refer to 1024.
> >
> > Like in kg or km?
>
> This thread is about units of data.
kbit? kbit/s? kB/s?
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Le lundi 11 juin 2007 à 15:25 -0400, Joey Hess a écrit :
> > You seem to fancy the K-is-1024--k-is-1000 convention
>
> No, I hate that convention. K and k should only ever refer to 1024.
/me waits for the day measuring jugs are graduated in powers of two,
just to please a group of hackers who don
On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 01:24:34PM -0600, Warren Turkal wrote:
> On Monday 11 June 2007 13:09:40 Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> > That may be true when it comes to breakdowns. However, I challenge you
> > to show me a "cheap" desktop disk that is also SCSI or SAS *and*
> > hotpluggable.
>
> While no
Le lundi 11 juin 2007 à 21:16 +0100, Wouter Verhelst a écrit :
> The point wasn't that you can't set up a professional RAID array using
> cheap desktop hard disks; you can, if you really want to, though I
> wouldn't recommend it. And yes, you're completely free to ignore that
> particular advise, s
#include
* Thijs Kinkhorst [Mon, Jun 11 2007, 08:38:11PM]:
> On Monday 11 June 2007 20:06, Bastian Venthur wrote:
> > I agree with the "sounds stupid" part, although I don't belive this is a
> > valid argument. What I don't believe is your 80 colums argument. Could
> > you please name a few of the
On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 10:22:32PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le lundi 11 juin 2007 à 21:16 +0100, Wouter Verhelst a écrit :
> > The point wasn't that you can't set up a professional RAID array using
> > cheap desktop hard disks; you can, if you really want to, though I
> > wouldn't recommend
Hi,
316 + 0,9K Jun 10 22:32 Debian Installe cb+myon=de
postpone_0.1_amd64.changes is NEW
320 + 0,4K Jun 11 12:30 Debian Installe cb+myon=de
postpone_0.1_amd64.changes ACCEPTED
looks like postpone got fast-tracked in the NEW queue (thanks Joerg!),
so here's what I posted in my blog yesterd
I personally have 6 or 7 U320 73GB 10K RPM SCSI drives that I am not using for
anything interesting. Can anyone tell me if these would be useful to Debian
or recommend another free software group to donate them?
Thanks,
wt
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On Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 06:46:48PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
> Michael Banck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> > http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=tex-common&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all
> >> >
> >> > Any idea?
> >>
> >> I have none, is anyone abl
On Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 02:17:49PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
> Florent noticed that for tex-common, two versions are listed as being
> available in testing although the package is Arch: all:
> Florent Rougon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > BTW, I don't understand why both 1.0.1 and 1.7 are liste
On Monday 11 June 2007 22:36, Christoph Berg wrote:
> As a test implementation, I modified the post{inst,rm} templates in
> the tex-common package [2] and rebuilt texlive-lang-* using that. dpkg
> -i texlive-lang-*.deb takes over 4 minutes in the old version, but
> only a total of 60s with postpone
Hi,
As a maintainer of a pam module (pam-keyring), I would like to know if
there is any plan to upgrade the version of the libpam in lenny.
The current version is antique (0.79 vs 0.99) and doesn't have some
features as syslog logging...
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Am Montag 11 Juni 2007 22:15 schrieb Josselin Mouette:
> Le lundi 11 juin 2007 à 15:25 -0400, Joey Hess a écrit :
> > > You seem to fancy the K-is-1024--k-is-1000 convention
> >
> > No, I hate that convention. K and k should only ever refer to 1024.
>
> /me waits for the day measuring jugs are grad
On Mon, June 11, 2007 22:11, Eduard Bloch wrote:
>> In either case, ~ 2 million bytes suits your requirement, or it
>> doesn't. This sounds to me like solving a non-problem, unless you can of
>> course tell me in which situations adding the "B" or "iB" in the field
>> above would solve a real quest
I would like to ask you interested in our next release to stop and
look at 'testing' for a while. I believe that now, during the start of
a development cycle and during debcamp/debconf we've a interesting
opportunity to review pros and cons of our current approach.
We believe that 'testing' means
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write:
>-=-=-=-=-=-
>
>Le lundi 11 juin 2007 à 21:16 +0100, Wouter Verhelst a écrit :
>> The point wasn't that you can't set up a professional RAID array using
>> cheap desktop hard disks; you can, if you really want to, though I
>> wouldn't recommend it. And yes,
On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 10:15:25PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le lundi 11 juin 2007 à 15:25 -0400, Joey Hess a écrit :
> > > You seem to fancy the K-is-1024--k-is-1000 convention
> > No, I hate that convention. K and k should only ever refer to 1024.
> /me waits for the day measuring jugs a
Frank Lichtenheld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It was a stale m68k Packages file lying around plus the fact that
> I still had m68k in the testing architecture list.
>
> Should be fixed now.
Ah, many thanks!
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Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> To be honest, this is exactly an example where I would *NOT* want to see
> this implemented.
>
> A major downside of the mechanism supported by this package is that there
> is absolutely no check is any errors occur during the running of these
> postponed
hi,
Qt4.3.0 was uploaded in experimental. There's some API changes.
Please, check your packages works with this new upstream release:
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* Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070611 22:27]:
> > Can you tell me in which cases you would make a different decision if this
> > was
> > either 2134*1000 or 2134*1024 bytes?
> >
> > In either case, ~ 2 million bytes suits your requirement, or it doesn't.
> > This sounds to me like solving a
On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 10:11:25PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write:
> >-=-=-=-=-=-
> >
> >Le lundi 11 juin 2007 à 21:16 +0100, Wouter Verhelst a écrit :
> >> The point wasn't that you can't set up a professional RAID array using
> >> cheap desktop hard disks;
José L. Redrejo wrote:
> The activities make children practice on clicking, double-clicking, drag
> and drop, moving and identify the mouse buttons.
Since children probably learn this by age five or so with or without help,
perhaps the author should focus on making a similar tool for adults
instea
On Monday 11 June 2007 15:10:24 Hendrik Sattler wrote:
> Am Montag 11 Juni 2007 22:15 schrieb Josselin Mouette:
> > Le lundi 11 juin 2007 à 15:25 -0400, Joey Hess a écrit :
> > > > You seem to fancy the K-is-1024--k-is-1000 convention
> > >
> > > No, I hate that convention. K and k should only ever
Gustavo Franco wrote:
> * testing metric is too simple, packages are allowed to enter testing
> only after a certain period of time has passed no matter if much
> people tested it before that and just when they don't have
> release-critical bugs filed against them.
Of course we have a team of RMs
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Bastian Venthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I agree with the "sounds stupid" part, although I don't belive this is a
> valid argument. What I don't believe is your 80 colums argument. Could
> you please name a few of the *many* programs which would have to drop
> information, precision, or signif
Fine. Stick with Kilobytes, but strictly define it as 10^3 bytes. Just
choose one over the other and be consistent.
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 01:53 +0900, Miles Bader wrote:
> shirish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > It isn't just ubuntu or debian but this needs to be done
> > everywhere.
>
> No i
On 6/11/07, Alex Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Fine. Stick with Kilobytes, but strictly define it as 10^3 bytes. Just
choose one over the other and be consistent.
That's not "consistent". Kilobyte has always meant 2^10 bytes. "kilo"
in "kilobyte" is not an SI prefix. SI prefixes only apply t
On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 19:56 -0500, Mark Reitblatt wrote:
> On 6/11/07, Alex Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Fine. Stick with Kilobytes, but strictly define it as 10^3 bytes. Just
> > choose one over the other and be consistent.
>
> That's not "consistent". Kilobyte has always meant 2^10 bytes
On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 05:39:54PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
> The frontends imho just need a clear way of showing which packages are
> going to be installed because of a Depends and which because of a
> Recommends, so it would be easier to de-select a recommended package.
>
> Otherwise there wo
On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 02:46:08PM -0600, Warren Turkal wrote:
> I personally have 6 or 7 U320 73GB 10K RPM SCSI drives that I am not using
> for
> anything interesting. Can anyone tell me if these would be useful to Debian
> or recommend another free software group to donate them?
As shipping m
On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 06:20:17PM -0300, Gustavo Franco wrote:
> I would like to ask you interested in our next release to stop and
> look at 'testing' for a while. I believe that now, during the start of
> a development cycle and during debcamp/debconf we've a interesting
> opportunity to review
Miles Bader wrote:
> Bastian Venthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > On the other hand, we have the chance to avoid user confusion
>
> No one is actually confused.
can you say, in all the thousands of users, not a single one is ever
confused? Not a single one ever wonders if it means 1000 or 1
On Monday 11 June 2007 21:52:09 Kevin Mark wrote:
> As shipping may be a consideration, in the cost-benefit analysis, it may
> be useful to say where in the world you are, in a general way, so that
> someone in the area, who could use them, could reply.
I will ship anywhere in the US. Exporting th
On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 02:46:08PM -0600, Warren Turkal wrote:
> I personally have 6 or 7 U320 73GB 10K RPM SCSI drives that I am not using
> for
> anything interesting. Can anyone tell me if these would be useful to Debian
> or recommend another free software group to donate them?
The m68k po
On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 02:32:35PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 10:15:25PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> > Le lundi 11 juin 2007 à 15:25 -0400, Joey Hess a écrit :
> > > > You seem to fancy the K-is-1024--k-is-1000 convention
>
> > > No, I hate that convention. K and k
On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 11:19:00PM -0600, Warren Turkal wrote:
> On Monday 11 June 2007 21:52:09 Kevin Mark wrote:
> > As shipping may be a consideration, in the cost-benefit analysis, it may
> > be useful to say where in the world you are, in a general way, so that
> > someone in the area, who cou
On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 09:55:35PM +0200, Magnus Holmgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Monday 11 June 2007 21:41, Joey Hess wrote:
> > Alex Queiroz wrote:
> > > On 6/11/07, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >No, I hate that convention. K and k should only ever refer to 1024.
> > >
> >
On Monday 11 June 2007 21:21, Joey Hess wrote:
> Bastian Venthur wrote:
> > What I don't believe is your 80 colums argument. Could
> > you please name a few of the *many* programs which would have to drop
> > information, precision, or significantly change their display to use the
> > "KiB" unit?
>
On Monday 11 June 2007 23:10, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
> Abbreviations are ambiguous by design. Who actually says that KB means
> kilobyte?
You're arguing that although IEC prefixes eliminate all ambiguity in the area
of amounts and rates of data, there is still some ambiguity left, i.e. IEC
prefi
On Monday 11 June 2007 23:56:16 Kevin Mark wrote:
> Oddly enough if you had posted this a bit earlyer, one of the US folks
> who will attend Debconf (this year in the UK) could have brought it with
> them. This would make it easy to directly give it to many folks who are
> part of Debian. Although
On Tuesday 12 June 2007 02:56, Mark Reitblatt wrote:
> On 6/11/07, Alex Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Fine. Stick with Kilobytes, but strictly define it as 10^3 bytes. Just
> > choose one over the other and be consistent.
>
> That's not "consistent". Kilobyte has always meant 2^10 bytes. "ki
On Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 08:36:39AM +0200, Magnus Holmgren wrote:
>
> That's an argument that's been heard before but it's *wrong*. SI prefixes
> *are* used with non-SI units without losing their normal meaning and there is
> no reason why bytes should be an exception. Since kilo has always meant
Hi Thijs!
You wrote:
> We are talking about tools like aptitude here, or at least, the OP does.
> Did you ever have 2 GB free and decided to install a package that would
> exactly fill that space in?
Afaik, we are talking about making the use of the prefixes consistent
over all of Debian, so tha
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