Re: DebPool project started on Alioth

Magnus Holmgren wrote: > I have started a DebPool project on Alioth. Those of you who expressed an Great! > interest in contributing are particularly welcome to join it (you have to > register an account on Alioth first). My username is littletux-guest. > http://alioth.debian.org/projects/deb

Not-so-mass bug filing for the patented IDEA algorithm

I plan to file a couple of bugs (not too many, probably a dozen) on packages which contain implementations of the patented IDEA algorithm -- because the presence of that code makes them non-free. As far as I know, no program in Debian actually uses this code, it's just inherited from upstream libr

Re: Not-so-mass bug filing for the patented IDEA algorithm

On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 09:09:23AM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > I plan to file a couple of bugs (not too many, probably a dozen) on > packages which contain implementations of the patented IDEA algorithm > -- because the presence of that code makes them non-free. "because" ? I fail to see the

Re: 64-bit transition deadline (Re: Etch in the hands of the Stable Release Managers)

interfaces with such closed-source software is of some relevance to all of us who want to see Debian thrive, even if we choose not to use that software ourselves. Helping closed source software developers is not an itch I feel like scratching. But if other people want to spend time

Re: Not-so-mass bug filing for the patented IDEA algorithm

* Pierre Habouzit: > On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 09:09:23AM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: >> I plan to file a couple of bugs (not too many, probably a dozen) on >> packages which contain implementations of the patented IDEA algorithm >> -- because the presence of that code makes them non-free. > > "b

Re: Not-so-mass bug filing for the patented IDEA algorithm

Hi Florian! You wrote: > I plan to file a couple of bugs (not too many, probably a dozen) on > packages which contain implementations of the patented IDEA algorithm > -- because the presence of that code makes them non-free. As far as I > know, no program in Debian actually uses this code, it's

Re: Not-so-mass bug filing for the patented IDEA algorithm

On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 09:09:23AM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > I plan to file a couple of bugs (not too many, probably a dozen) on > packages which contain implementations of the patented IDEA algorithm > -- because the presence of that code makes them non-free. As far as I > know, no program i

Re: 64-bit transition deadline (Re: Etch in the hands of the Stable Release Managers)

On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 12:00:08AM -0700, Sean Perry wrote: > I haven't seen much Debian in the last 6 years in the commercial > world. RH rules that roost. If people have chosen closed source, then > they likely are also paying for an enterprise edition of their free > OS too. Linux == Redha

Re: Bug#416841: Need help with MySQL upgrade tests on 2.4 kernel

On 2007-04-09 Steve Langasek wrote: > On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 01:28:18PM +0200, Christian Hammers wrote: > > > Mmm, guess I wasn't clear -- I mean that there's no point in trying to > > > work > > > on this bug, because lenny *as a whole* will not support 2.4 kernels. > > > (the > > > glibc ma

Re: 64-bit transition deadline (Re: Etch in the hands of the Stable Release Managers)

On 4/10/07, Jean-Christophe Dubacq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 12:00:08AM -0700, Sean Perry wrote: > I haven't seen much Debian in the last 6 years in the commercial > world. RH rules that roost. If people have chosen closed source, then > they likely are also paying for an

Bug#418517: ITP: gnunet-qt -- QT frontend to GNUnet

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Arnaud Kyheng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: gnunet-qt Version : 0.7.1c Upstream Author : Christian Grothoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.gnunet.org/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C++ Description

Re: /etc/udev/rules.d non-symlinks

On Mon, Apr 09, 2007, Joey Hess wrote: > The intent is to let users disable a udev rule by removing the symlink, or > reorder a rule to a different number by renaming the symlink. Putting a rules > conffile directly in /etc/udev/rules.d/ wouldn't allow for this, and as Marco > says in #359614, this

Re: 64-bit transition deadline (Re: Etch in the hands of the Stable Release Managers)

On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 11:40:27AM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > On 4/10/07, Jean-Christophe Dubacq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 12:00:08AM -0700, Sean Perry wrote: > >> I haven't seen much Debian in the last 6 years in the commercial > >> world. RH rules that roo

Re: Three-package clearance sale

On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 08:46:23PM -0400, Jose Luis Rivas Contreras wrote: > Clint Adams escribió: > > zsh30 - zsh 3.0 > > Hi, this includes all zsh packages? or just zsh30?... Obviously, src:zsh30 covers 3.0 branch and src:zsh provides 4.x. -- bye, - Nacho http://criptonita.com/~nach

Re: Not-so-mass bug filing for the patented IDEA algorithm

On Apr 10, Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I plan to file a couple of bugs (not too many, probably a dozen) on > packages which contain implementations of the patented IDEA algorithm > -- because the presence of that code makes them non-free. As far as I > know, no program in Debian a

Re: Not-so-mass bug filing for the patented IDEA algorithm

On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 14:17:13 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) wrote: > On Apr 10, Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I plan to file a couple of bugs (not too many, probably a dozen) on > > packages which contain implementations of the patented IDEA > > algorithm -- because the p

Re: Not-so-mass bug filing for the patented IDEA algorithm

* Neil Williams: > Which are the offending libraries? Botan, Crypto++, BouncyCastle, a few Perl-related packages. > Is this mass-bug-filing intended to be against the applications that > link against the libraries or just the offending libraries > themselves? Just the libraries. Debian's crypt

Bug#418552: ITP: umit -- nmap frontend, developed in Python and GTK

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Bernd Zeimetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: umit Version : 0.9.3-rc2 Upstream Author : Adriano Monteiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://umit.sourceforge.net/ * License : GPL2, and LGPL for the higwidgets library

Re: 64-bit transition deadline (Re: Etch in the hands of the Stable Release Managers)

On 4/10/07, Jean-Christophe Dubacq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 11:40:27AM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > On 4/10/07, Jean-Christophe Dubacq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >I work in a science lab and can tell you that even though we do have > >commercial software (Mat

Re: Bug#418552: ITP: umit -- nmap frontend, developed in Python and GTK

On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 03:31:02PM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > Description : nmap frontend, developed in Python and GTK Is it interesting for the user/sysadm that the frontend is developed in Python? I would remote that (while I will keep the reference to GTK) and perhaps adding something

Create Makefile (rules)

Hello, I'm studying about the rules files (makefiles), in debian. I´d like, use a file ex1.c, and create a makefile for run make command then build a binary, and install it in a filesystem place. Wih my study, i read than Makefile.am is necessary for rules ? Bye Faria ___

Re: /etc/udev/rules.d non-symlinks

On Apr 09, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm proposing that we change our de-facto policy for handling of files > in /etc/udev/rules.d. Currently it is this (from udev's README.Debian): It's OK, I planned to discuss this after the release. Experience showed that generally other packages d

Re: 64-bit transition deadline (Re: Etch in the hands of the Stable Release Managers)

On Tuesday 10 April 2007 07:43, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > > I may have exaggerated by saying 20 years, but I will not settle for > > less than 10. And we need those anyway to compare results obtained by > > one software against the other. > > This is interesting. I often hear people citing pros

Re: Bug#418552: ITP: umit -- nmap frontend, developed in Python and GTK

Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 03:31:02PM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > >> Description : nmap frontend, developed in Python and GTK >> > > Is it interesting for the user/sysadm that the frontend is developed in > Python? I would remote that (while I will keep the

Re: 64-bit transition deadline (Re: Etch in the hands of the Stable Release Managers)

Ter, 2007-04-10 às 08:28 -0600, Warren Turkal escreveu: > On Tuesday 10 April 2007 07:43, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > > > I may have exaggerated by saying 20 years, but I will not settle for > > > less than 10. And we need those anyway to compare results obtained by > > > one software against the

Re: 64-bit transition deadline (Re: Etch in the hands of the Stable Release Managers)

On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 04:36:06PM +0100, Luis Matos wrote: > Ter, 2007-04-10 às 08:28 -0600, Warren Turkal escreveu: > > On Tuesday 10 April 2007 07:43, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > > > > I may have exaggerated by saying 20 years, but I will not settle for > > > > less than 10. And we need those

Re: 64-bit transition deadline (Re: Etch in the hands of the Stable Release Managers)

"Tshepang Lekhonkhobe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I've got an idea that some software is targeted at such a narrow > userbase (CAD for example) that volunteer development seemes > unjustified. In such cases, it's nice when academy and business lend > their hand. There just isn't enough interes

Re: release update: security problems force "etch" delay of 4-6 weeks

The one WHO had send this messages should DOWNWRITE 100 TIMES the RFC since the "Message-ID:" header is invalid! It show: Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] but it should: Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> And then, I like Ice-Cream and the "From:" was jumping directly into my eyes... :-) Hap

Re: 64-bit transition deadline (Re: Etch in the hands of the Stable Release Managers)

Jean-Christophe Dubacq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My point is: do what Debian must, but do not consider breaking > commercial software lightly, and do not think that freedom is all what > is required by some well-known target audience such as universities. > Tolerance is as great a value (in som

Re: 64-bit transition deadline (Re: Etch in the hands of the Stable Release Managers)

Luis Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Free cad implementations are too simple for use in some industrial > environments, when programs like CATIA or Solidorks, or inventor, Come > in Mind. > These programs are expensive and require power that can be better used > in 64 bit platform. 64bit Linu

Re: Not-so-mass bug filing for the patented IDEA algorithm

On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 03:01:41PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Neil Williams: > > > Which are the offending libraries? > > Botan, Crypto++, BouncyCastle, a few Perl-related packages. Openssl's README.Debian contains: Some algorithms used in the library are covered by patents. As a result,

Re: Create Makefile (rules)

Am Dienstag, den 10.04.2007, 10:26 -0300 schrieb Rodrigo Tavares: > I'm studying about the rules files (makefiles), in > debian. > > I´d like, use a file ex1.c, and create a makefile for > run make command then build a binary, and install it > in a filesystem place. > > Wih my study, i read than

Re: Not-so-mass bug filing for the patented IDEA algorithm

On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 01:51:13PM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > IANAL, but being open source, a patent lawyer would probably try to > claim that distributing the code ALLOWS the infringement of the patent > as if that makes Debian complicit in the infringement. Er, by definition a patent is supp

Draft spec for new dpkg "triggers" feature (v2, repost)

In late January and February we had a thread about my proposals for a new dpkg triggers feature. Thanks very much to everyone who provided feedback. Following some very cogent criticisms from Florent Rougon I posted a significantly version on the 2nd of March but we were all too busy trying to re

Re: Bug#416841: Need help with MySQL upgrade tests on 2.4 kernel

On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 10:39:10AM +0200, Christian Hammers wrote: > On 2007-04-09 Steve Langasek wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 01:28:18PM +0200, Christian Hammers wrote: > > > > Mmm, guess I wasn't clear -- I mean that there's no point in trying to > > > > work > > > > on this bug, because

Re: Bug#416841: Need help with MySQL upgrade tests on 2.4 kernel

On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 11:47:33AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > No, it wasn't; it was reported against a version of mysql that was only in > sid. > > Now if there's a reason to believe it also applies to the etch version of > the package, then ok; but that's not the version it was filed against.

Re: Not-so-mass bug filing for the patented IDEA algorithm

Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Er, by definition a patent is supposed to include a complete description of > the invention that would permit a third-party to reimplement the invention, > in exchange for granting the inventor exclusive rights to the invention for > a limited time. Wo

Re: 64-bit transition deadline (Re: Etch in the hands of the Stable Release Managers)

Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > On 4/10/07, Jean-Christophe Dubacq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> For example, CPlex (a mathematical programming optimizer) is considered >> much better than any free (even free as beer) program, having no >> equivalent for e.g. quadratic constraints problems. >> >> M

Re: Not-so-mass bug filing for the patented IDEA algorithm

[Cc'd to debian-legal in the hope of some informed comment.] On Tue, 2007-04-10 at 14:53 -0400, Matthias Julius wrote: > Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Er, by definition a patent is supposed to include a complete description of > > the invention that would permit a third-party t

Re: 64-bit transition deadline (Re: Etch in the hands of the Stable Release Managers)

On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 05:20:34PM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > > The fact that Microsoft has chosen to remove win64 completely from the > > retail > > boxes for Vista is very significative. > > No, they include it in ultimate (it has both DVDs) Ultimate is not targetted at the consumer mark

Re: Not-so-mass bug filing for the patented IDEA algorithm

* Kurt Roeckx: > As far as I understand, they have been disabled because at that > time, it seems we only cared about using those, not about > distributing them. Disabling it and telling users the reason in the package documentation is sufficient, I guess. Is there consensus that we shouldn't sh

Re: 64-bit transition deadline (Re: Etch in the hands of the Stable Release Managers)

On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 06:39:16PM -0400, Jim Crilly wrote: > > Well I think users of applications like solidworks, lightwave, maya, > > etc, just might use win64 and be quite happy with it. Not a huge > > market, but not nothing either. I doubt this will be small enough that > > linux can automa

Re: 64-bit transition deadline (Re: Etch in the hands of the Stable Release Managers)

On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 04:59:57PM -0400, Matthias Julius wrote: > > But anyway, what do we care? I have my working 64bit platform. It currently works for more people than win64 does, that's for sure. The question is if it'll maintain this edge during the next two years. -- Robert Millan My

Re: 64-bit transition deadline (Re: Etch in the hands of the Stable Release Managers)

On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 10:17:15PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > Helping closed source software developers is not an itch I feel > like scratching. But if other people want to spend time making things > easy for closed software, I am of course not going to stand in their > way, no

Re: Pushing multi-arch media (Re: blockers for 64-bit adoption)

On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 09:54:20PM -0400, Matthias Julius wrote: > Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Mon, 9 Apr 2007, Matthias Julius wrote: > > > >> I hate to reboot just to try out d-i. :-) > > > > Actually, you don't have to. Try qemu. > > Ahh, true. That's another chapter I

Re: 64-bit transition deadline (Re: Etch in the hands of the Stable Release Managers)

Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If x86_64-linux-gnu is stablished as the new reference api, well, they'll > be forced to. Reference for what? Is there any software vendor porting his applications to 64bit Linux because of problems with win64? I havn't noticed any. Proprietary softw

Re: Not-so-mass bug filing for the patented IDEA algorithm

Ben Hutchings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > There is an argument that source code can only be a description whereas > a binary is an implementation, so only distributing binaries that > include the claimed invention could infringe. I'm not sure whether this > has been legally tested. If this hol

Re: 64-bit transition deadline (Re: Etch in the hands of the Stable Release Managers)

Most people and main developpers only know windows' tools for development, that's for sure. I am currently developping an industrial application for windows and linux, because i forced the use of gtk (so i can develop and run it on linux), but my boss is forcing me to only develop in and for windo

Re: 64-bit transition deadline (Re: Etch in the hands of the Stable Release Managers)

On 4/10/07, Felipe Sateler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Maple is far away from any competitor I've seen. It provides you with anything you need plus everything you want, works in a nice environment and provides you with a _very_ comprehensive help. I have yet to find any free equivalent that has th

Debian Buzz and Rex binary packages

Hi everyone, For a little silly experiment, I would like to know whether someone still has the official debs of Buzz and Rex around. The old releases archive at [1] has the official debs starting from Bo, but not before, and Google only finds some debs for 0.91 and Buzz at [2]. Cheers, [1]

Re: Pushing multi-arch media (Re: blockers for 64-bit adoption)

Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 09:54:20PM -0400, Matthias Julius wrote: >> Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > On Mon, 9 Apr 2007, Matthias Julius wrote: >> > >> >> I hate to reboot just to try out d-i. :-) >> > >> > Actually, you don't have to.

Re: 64-bit transition deadline (Re: Etch in the hands of the Stable Release Managers)

Tshepang Lekhonkhobe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 4/10/07, Jean-Christophe Dubacq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> For example, CPlex (a mathematical programming optimizer) is considered >> much better than any free (even free as beer) program, having no >> equivalent for e.g. quadratic constrain

Re: /etc/udev/rules.d non-symlinks

On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 12:11:57PM +0200, Loïc Minier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > On Mon, Apr 09, 2007, Joey Hess wrote: > > The intent is to let users disable a udev rule by removing the symlink, or > > reorder a rule to a different number by renaming the symlink. Putting a > > rules