Hubert Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On 23 Nov 2006 22:40:01 +0200, Jari Aalto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> > My point. If there is explicit "Depends: bash", then someone can post
> > a patch to provide alternative solution to a person who may not know
> > alternative constructs (having lea
Package: wnpp
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On Sat, Nov 25, 2006 at 10:02:14AM +0200, Jari Aalto wrote:
> Hubert Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > On 23 Nov 2006 22:40:01 +0200, Jari Aalto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> >
> > > My point. If there is explicit "Depends: bash", then someone can post
> > > a patch to provide alternative solu
On Sat, Nov 25, 2006 at 09:51:37AM +0200, Jari Aalto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And this is only possible if scripts use
>
> /bin/sh
>
> The /bin/sh could be any valid shell that provided the standard set
> of features.
>
> The installation system ("Essential") which sets /bin/sh to poin
[Thomas Bushnell]
> I'm interested in why we should care at all. Perl is a far bigger space
> hog than bash.
Debian Edu had to switch /bin/sh from bash to dash to get shutdown to
umount /usr/ when we use libnss-ldap (bug #159771). Bash loads user
information using nss when it starts, and thus l
Hi all,
a new hylafax version is going to be released in the next few weeks. I
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Please test the new version, so that we may understand if 4.3.1 is ready
to be inc
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On Saturday 25 November 2006 00:50, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 24, 2006 at 11:52:36PM +0100, Adrian von Bidder wrote:
> > I *guess* that Debian has a much higher percentage of downloads through
> > mirrors where we don't have the log files compared to FC, so this
> > obviously doesn't
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This one time, at band camp, Jari Aalto said:
> "Depends:" make dependency visible, whereas filing a wishlist is
> usually result of someone by accident finding the script to include
> bashism. He may offer a patch to convert those constructs to standard
> sh-way-of-doing-things.
>
> It's easier t
Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sat, Nov 25, 2006 at 09:51:37AM +0200, Jari Aalto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > And this is only possible if scripts use
> >
> > /bin/sh
> >
> > The /bin/sh could be any valid shell that provided the standard set
> > of features.
> >
> > Th
Stephen Gran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> This one time, at band camp, Jari Aalto said:
> > "Depends:" make dependency visible, whereas filing a wishlist is
> > usually result of someone by accident finding the script to include
> > bashism. He may offer a patch to convert those constructs to sta
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This one time, at band camp, Jari Aalto said:
> Stephen Gran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > This one time, at band camp, Jari Aalto said:
> > > "Depends:" make dependency visible, whereas filing a wishlist is
> > > usually result of someone by accident finding the script to include
> > > bashis
Am 2006-11-22 20:52:07, schrieb Oleg Verych:
> On 2006-11-22, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> > ${parameter:offset}
> > ${parameter:offset:length}
>
> Here you know what and where parameter has. Is it better to split it?
echo "${parameter}" |cut -c N-
and
echo "${parameter}" |cut -c Nx-Ny
Am 2006-11-25 00:02:34, schrieb Jari Aalto:
> PII with 62-128M, fairly common.
ACK
> > For example my IBM TP570 (PII/366MHz/192MB)
> > is happy with /bin/bash and fast enough.
>
> "fast enought" is in the eye of a beholder. Try with PII/64M with
> X deskop with 20 sessions of bash open. And open
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On 11/25/06 00:46, Greg Folkert wrote:
> On Fri, 2006-11-24 at 13:12 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
>>
>> On 11/24/06 11:54, Jon Dowland wrote:
>>> On Fri, Nov 24, 2006 at 08:25:27AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 11/24/06 06:06, Jon Dowland wrote:
[snip
On 11/25/06 06:06:09PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> Am 2006-11-25 00:02:34, schrieb Jari Aalto:
> > PII with 62-128M, fairly common.
>
> ACK
>
> > > For example my IBM TP570 (PII/366MHz/192MB)
> > > is happy with /bin/bash and fast enough.
> >
> > "fast enought" is in the eye of a beholder.
On Sat, 2006-11-25 at 09:51 +0200, Jari Aalto wrote:
> Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > On Fri, 2006-11-24 at 23:55 +0200, Jari Aalto wrote:
> > > > Instead of focusing and hammering again and again on /bin/sh, why not
> > > > instead ask maintainers to do #!/bin/dash?
> > >
On Sat, 2006-11-25 at 11:31 +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> [Thomas Bushnell]
> > I'm interested in why we should care at all. Perl is a far bigger space
> > hog than bash.
>
> Debian Edu had to switch /bin/sh from bash to dash to get shutdown to
> umount /usr/ when we use libnss-ldap (bug #1
Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I do not know a singel person which open 20 xterms with bash at the same
> time. On my IBM i have normaly 4-6 XTerms open, mozilla and gaim.
I have a minimum of 18 xterms open at any given time, plus an additional
four shells running under screen, i
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On 11/25/06 00:46, Greg Folkert wrote:
>> Ron, please stop that urban legend. Perl is Perl not P.E.R.L as you
>> say.
>> I have been corrected for saying that, by more than one Perl Monk, also
>> by Mr. Wall.
>> Perl is Perl. It has no meaning other than
On Sat, Nov 25, 2006 at 10:20:07AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL
PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 2006-11-25 at 09:51 +0200, Jari Aalto wrote:
> > Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > On Fri, 2006-11-24 at 23:55 +0200, Jari Aalto wrote:
> > > > > Instead of focusing and hamm
[Thomas Bushnell]
> Why not fix the bash bug instead??
Yes, I ask myself the same question. This bug was submitted as a bash
bug, and then passed on to the ldap library package by the bash
maintainer, and then passed back to bash and forwarded to upstream,
which never addressed it. No idea why t
Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Am 2006-11-25 00:02:34, schrieb Jari Aalto:
> > PII with 62-128M, fairly common.
>
> ACK
>
> > > For example my IBM TP570 (PII/366MHz/192MB)
> > > is happy with /bin/bash and fast enough.
> >
> > "fast enought" is in the eye of a beholder. Try with
On Sat, 2006-11-25 at 21:33 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
> > As I said, it is perfectly possible for a maintainer to write a script
> > which works on any shell and allows the user to pick at installation
> > time (heck, or even per-user!) which shell to use.
>
> How cool that would be to be asked 10
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On 11/25/06 13:54, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> On 11/25/06 00:46, Greg Folkert wrote:
>
>>> Ron, please stop that urban legend. Perl is Perl not P.E.R.L as you
>>> say.
>
>>> I have been corrected for saying that,
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On 11/25/06 13:54, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> It's a back-formation, as is "Pathologically Eclectic Rubbish Lister"
>> (later in the man page). The language is actually named after "Pearl"
>> but since there was already a language named that, Larry Wall dropp
On Sat, Nov 25, 2006 at 01:20:41AM +0100, Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo wrote:
> El jue, 23-11-2006 a las 18:50 +0100, Axel Beckert escribi??:
> > Package: wnpp
> > Severity: wishlist
> >
> > * Package name: gaia
> > Version : 0.1.0
> > Upstream Author : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > * URL or We
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On 11/25/06 17:07, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> On 11/25/06 13:54, Russ Allbery wrote:
>
>>> It's a back-formation, as is "Pathologically Eclectic Rubbish Lister"
>>> (later in the man page). The language is actual
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On 11/25/06 17:07, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> On 11/25/06 13:54, Russ Allbery wrote:
>
>>> It's a back-formation, as is "Pathologically Eclectic Rubbish Lister"
>>> (later in the man page). The language is actual
[Bill Allombert]
> Someone should grab gaia-0.1.0.tar.bz2 from Google cache and then
> claim that Google distributed the software under the GNU GPL.
Hehe. Doubt that will have any effect, though. :)
It will not address the problem for the most interesting material,
though, as the google map dat
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> What matters is that Perl started out as
> Perl is a interpreted language optimized for scanning arbi-
> trary text files, extracting information from those text
> files, and printing reports based on that information. It's
> als
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On 11/25/06 18:24, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> What matters is that Perl started out as
>
>> Perl is a interpreted language optimized for scanning arbi-
>> trary text files, extracting information
This one time, at band camp, Michelle Konzack said:
> Am 2006-11-25 00:02:34, schrieb Jari Aalto:
> > PII with 62-128M, fairly common.
>
> ACK
>
> > > For example my IBM TP570 (PII/366MHz/192MB)
> > > is happy with /bin/bash and fast enough.
> >
> > "fast enought" is in the eye of a beholder. Tr
This one time, at band camp, Ron Johnson said:
> Does an official-looking top-of-the-man-page backronym that does not
> indicate that it is a backronym *become* canonical, simply by reason
> that it's at the top of the official man page?
Does a joke become truth just because people don't know it's
On Wed, Nov 22, 2006 at 07:42:14PM +, Oleg Verych wrote:
Guys. Once more. Spaces is your problem, not my.
In Unix, every byte except NUL and / (including CR, LF, quotes, and UTF-8
characters) can be used in a filename, and every string of those bytes
except "." and ".." is a perfectly val
On Thu, Nov 23, 2006 at 05:03:13PM +0100, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
# ls /dev/udp /dev/tcp
ls: /dev/udp: No such file or directory
ls: /dev/tcp: No such file or directory
The chosen method of integration is practical non-sense.
What happens if /dev/tcp is present and a character device?
That's mo
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On 11/25/06 23:02, Stephen Gran wrote:
> This one time, at band camp, Ron Johnson said:
>> Does an official-looking top-of-the-man-page backronym that does not
>> indicate that it is a backronym *become* canonical, simply by reason
>> that it's at the
On Sat, Nov 25, 2006 at 04:04:39PM +0200, Jari Aalto wrote:
> It's easier to eyeball packages that explicitly announce "bash".
> Those could be put to a stress test through:
It's also relatively trivial to just run through the archive, looking
for shell scripts and at least sh -n them from vari
Am Samstag 25 November 2006 22:57 schrieb Jari Aalto:
> > I do not know a singel person which open 20 xterms with bash at the
> > same time. On my IBM i have normaly 4-6 XTerms open, mozilla and gaim.
>
> Try developing 10 software packages simultaneously (you leave the
> session open and come bac
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