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On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 11:34:14PM +0100, Sz?kelyi Szabolcs wrote:
> can anyone tell why ftpds do conflict with each other and why httpds do
> not?
Actually the httpds should conflict too as they install listeners on
0.0.0.0:80.
E.g.: With no httpd installed, install the apache package, apache w
Hello,
On Tue, 07 Nov 2006, Gerrit Pape wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 11:34:14PM +0100, Sz?kelyi Szabolcs wrote:
> > can anyone tell why ftpds do conflict with each other and why httpds do
> > not?
>
> Actually the httpds should conflict too as they install listeners on
> 0.0.0.0:80.
>
> E.g.
Gerrit Pape <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 11:34:14PM +0100, Sz?kelyi Szabolcs wrote:
>> can anyone tell why ftpds do conflict with each other and why httpds do
>> not?
>
> Actually the httpds should conflict too as they install listeners on
> 0.0.0.0:80.
Nope, not IMHO. The
* Mike Hommey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061106 22:00]:
> On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 09:01:27AM -0800, Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >> +the -a and -o test
> > >> operators
> > >> +
* Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061106 23:40]:
> My impression of the previous Policy discussion was that there was not a
> consensus around this change, so I'm trying to reach a consensus around a
> simpler incremental change that deals with one problem (while still
> leaving others opened).
On Nov 07, Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I agree -a/-o should be replaced, but I don't think we really consider
No, they should NOT be replaced. There is no sensible reason to not use
them.
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Hi,
I am wondering what is the status/current work being done on
supporting the ipw3945 wireless card on Debian. In non-free I can find
the firmware package, but I couldn't find the non-free regulatory
daemon nor the free kernel driver. I would like to work on that, but I
don't want to duplicate
Hi Joey,
On Tuesday 07 November 2006 07:32, Joey Schulze wrote:
> > > Why would you want to upload a separate source package?
> >
> > That seems to be used to do. See php-imap or php-pspell!
>
> Uh? What's the benefit of the duplicated source?
Personly I did prefer to provide tidy support for p
just to throw my $0.02 in,
On Tue, 2006-11-07 at 13:20 +0100, Jan Wagner wrote:
> Personly I did prefer to provide tidy support for php on-tree. But if
> the "Debian PHP Maintainers" prefer it off-tree, I'm also fine.
>
> ~/debian-builds/php5-tidy/build-area$ ls -la *orig*
> -rw-r--r-- 1 waja wa
On Tuesday 07 November 2006 13:49, sean finney wrote:
> so unless there are any new developments i'd suggest staying with what
> is presently being done, and after etch maybe we can sit down and
> revisit this.
I totaly agree with that. My intention is, to have a working tidy module
available cau
Yodel!
Since I hate having tons of configuration files lying around from my various
tests (and build-dep installing orgies), I do "dpkg -l | grep ^rc | cut -f
3 -d \ | xargs dpkg -P" every now and then. Actually, I first look at the
list, and this proved very important here...
What happened:
On Tuesday, November 7, 2006 12:31 pm, Bjørn Mork wrote:
> So? It's up to the adminstrator to configure the packages after
> installation.
>
> The default of 0.0.0.0:80 may work as expected in some cases, but the
> package maintainer cannot guarantee this. And that has nothing to do
> with othe
On 11/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Who should we help more: those who get paid to administer the machines,
and are probably much more knowledable, or the occasional, home or
small office user that doesn't have the knoweldge or the time to acquire it?
Why is the occasional
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Yet there are also many users, probably those who are not
> professional administrators, that _need_ for everything to work out of the
> box.
> Who should we help more: those who get paid to administer the machines,
> and are probably much more knowledable, or the oc
On Tue, Nov 07, 2006 at 08:59:15AM -0300, Martín Ferrari wrote:
> And currently, there are problems with the debian version of 80211 and
> the 1.0 driver from intel, that prevented me from compiling it by
> hand.
It's not really a problem. Just make sure that the ipw3945 is compiled
with 80211 API
Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> And I'm not sure that you are right with your majority claim. A lot of
> larger installations use nfs and they quickly add up to a lot of
> systems rivaling the rest of the user base in numbers.
But, I am not sure whether you can count them all a
Hi,
On Monday 06 November 2006 18:07, Russ Allbery wrote:
> + required under POSIX, hence this explicit addition. Also,
> + rumour has it that this shall be mandated under the LSB
> + anyway.
I dont think the debian policy should spread rumours about the LSB.
Em Terça 07 Novembro 2006 10:39, Bjørn Mork escreveu:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > Yet there are also many users, probably those who are not
> > professional administrators, that _need_ for everything to work out of
> > the box. Who should we help more: those who get paid to administer the
> >
The point is apt-get let me installed it with a warning, but doesn't
want to let me install anything else without removing the conflicting
package it accepted to install.
> > E.g.: With no httpd installed, install the apache package,
> apache will
> > listen on 0.0.0.0:80; now install the thttpd
Roger Leigh wrote:
>
> What's the rationale for needing it as part of the default install?
Because it's the standard GNU way of doing this kind of job?
> The majority of the Debian (and GNU/Linux systems in general) I see
> tend to not use NFS at all.
I guess there is truth in this statement.
Earlier this year we wrote to you about our Knowledge Based Degree Program
(KBDP).
We thought we would follow up and see if there is any reason why you have not
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On Tue November 7 2006 04:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Yet there are also many users, probably those who are not
> professional administrators, that _need_ for everything to work out
> of the box. Who should we help more: those who get paid to administer
> the machines, and are probably much mo
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Hi,
Gerrit Pape wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 11:34:14PM +0100, Sz?kelyi Szabolcs wrote:
>> can anyone tell why ftpds do conflict with each other and why httpds do
>> not?
>
> Actually the httpds should conflict too as they install listeners on
>
Tiago Saboga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I prefer a) over b), but for the sake of completeness, we should point that
> there is third choice:
> c) allow it to work, automagically determining new ports
>
> For this to work, the user would have to choose which server is the "main"
> one. I don't
See #363967. I heard some doubts about panthera's ability to handle more
stuff, so maybe you can offer help.
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On Tuesday 07 November 2006 10:49, Matthias Julius wrote:
> But, I am not sure whether you can count them all as individual
> installations as many of those probably get installed on one system
> and then copied to another. And they are managed by only a few admins.
Preseed is your friend. It's ex
> "Goswin" == Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Goswin> But wouldn't you be surprised if "mount -tnfs server:/path
Goswin> /local/path" suddenly wouldn't work anymore in a fresh
Goswin> install?
Not really, no.
I would be more surprised if it did work. NFS has a re
On Wed, Nov 08, 2006 at 10:17:55AM +1100, Brian May wrote:
> I would be more surprised if it did work. NFS has a reputation of
> being insecure.
Try Kerberized NFS :-)
> I am not aware of any organisations, big/small, that use NFS any more
> except on restricted sets of computers.
The university
"Steinar H. Gunderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The university here is opening up for Kerberos-enabled NFSv4 from the entire
> campus network RSN. Now you know one :-)
[Isn't nfs4 rather different than previous versions, in that it's
fixed some of the most egregious "nfs bogosities"?]
I use
> "Miles" == Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Miles> [Isn't nfs4 rather different than previous versions, in
Miles> that it's fixed some of the most egregious "nfs
Miles> bogosities"?]
I have been told NFS 4 has nothing in common with NFS except the name,
and its reputation
Matthias Julius wrote:
> I would guess that most people who install a linux system don't need
> NFS.
>
Donno. I use it on all my systems, home and otherwise; how else would I
mount file servers...
> And actually, NFS us not required to run Debian. Do I don't think it
> needs to be in the defa
On Tue, Nov 07, 2006 at 08:59:15AM -0300, Martín Ferrari wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am wondering what is the status/current work being done on
> supporting the ipw3945 wireless card on Debian. In non-free I can find
> the firmware package, but I couldn't find the non-free regulatory
> daemon nor the free
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