Re: CDBS and dh_install

2006-06-10 Thread George Danchev
On Saturday 10 June 2006 01:10, Steve Langasek wrote: --cut-- > In contrast, almost all of cdbs is stashed away in /usr/share/cdbs/; almost > none of what it does is inspectible by looking at the debian/rules and > using those lines as hooks into the documentation. There is > /usr/share/doc/cdbs/c

Re: CDBS and dh_install

2006-06-10 Thread Loïc Minier
On Fri, Jun 09, 2006, martin f krafft wrote: > This is my opinion and others will disagree: > Please don't. CDBS is a major pain to use for those who didn't > (co-)author it. It's just too much about obfuscation. Yeah, I and others we disagree! :) CDBS makes maintenance of some packages damn e

Re: CDBS and dh_install

2006-06-10 Thread Thomas Weber
Hi, first off, I'm neither a DD nor an NM, but I do some packaging work (thanks to alioth), As most people here argue against CDBS, I think the benefits of it are missed (if you didn't guess, I use it and I like it). Am Freitag, den 09.06.2006, 15:10 -0700 schrieb Steve Langasek: > On Fri, Jun 0

Re: CDBS and dh_install

2006-06-10 Thread Loïc Minier
On Fri, Jun 09, 2006, Steve Langasek wrote: > When using debhelper, you (typically) have a single debian/rules makefile > which lists out all the commands that are invoked for building your package; > each of those commands primarily uses the contents of other files in debian/ > as input. If you h

Re: CDBS and dh_install

2006-06-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.06.10.0852 +0200]: > But I suspect that implicitely telling Manoj that he thinks > top-down because he actually likes cdbs will get you into trouble, It was not my intention. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list!

Re: CDBS and dh_install

2006-06-10 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting martin f krafft ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > also sprach Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.06.10.0852 +0200]: > > But I suspect that implicitely telling Manoj that he thinks > > top-down because he actually likes cdbs will get you into trouble, > > It was not my intention. Of course,

Re: CDBS and dh_install

2006-06-10 Thread Michael Banck
On Sat, Jun 10, 2006 at 02:24:42AM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: > Oh, really? The last time I tried to add a custom command to the install > rule (well, >> 1 year ago) it was a real PITA. Docs have not told me how > it works, docs have not told me in an understandable language how to add > extensions

Re: CDBS and dh_install

2006-06-10 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Loïc Minier [Sat, Jun 10 2006, 11:08:15AM]: > Yes, I 100% agree with you. Would I be evaluating an applicant, I > wouldn't like him to prepare a new source package in CDBS. (But I > wouldn't request to build a .deb with ar either.) > > Is Debhelper our C and CDBS our C++? No. B

Re: CDBS and dh_install

2006-06-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.06.10.1156 +0200]: > Of course, it was not. I omitted to put smileys because it seems > that some people around are thinking I'm sometimes too happy or > saying too much fun things, and that's negative? We never took you seriously anyway, mus

Re: CDBS and dh_install

2006-06-10 Thread Duck
Coin, Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I tend to agree. I tend to agree too, every maintainer should be encouraged to understand the packaging tools he is using. These tools are made to solve _common_ situations, so you have to understand what automatic mechanisms are involved, a

Re: CDBS and dh_install

2006-06-10 Thread Christian Perrier
> by NMU). The CDBS Team does no more exist and Peter is the only one > working on it and refusing any help, that's a very bad situation. Hmmm, that sounds weird to my ears as Peter is currently working with myself, Steve Langasek and Noèl Köthe on the samba packages...and this team work works p

Re: CDBS and dh_install

2006-06-10 Thread Duck
Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hmmm, that sounds weird to my ears as Peter is currently working with > myself, Steve Langasek and Noèl Köthe on the samba packages...and this > team work works pretty well. Sounds very strange to me. I reviewed his first upload, found a regression

Re: Summary of Debconf i18n/l10n activities

2006-06-10 Thread Javier SOLA
Christian, Denis, I see the localisation infrastructure as a tool of the translator (or localisation manager for a package in a language). If the translator has commit right, he can give the tool the data to do automatic commits, instead of doing them manaully. Only the person that has the rig

Re: CDBS and dh_install

2006-06-10 Thread Joey Hess
Marc Dequènes wrote: > in a better state now. But this raise another related subject: such an > important package should be comaintained. Peter refused any cooperation, > uploaded new versions while i proposed to review his changes with > another developper To be fair, debhelper is not co-maintain

Bug#372590: ITP: scala -- The Scala programming language

2006-06-10 Thread Lex Spoon
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Lex Spoon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: scala Version : 2.1.5 Upstream Author : Martin Odersky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://scala.epfl.ch * License : BSD-like (http://scala.epfl.ch/download

Bug#372593: ITP: usbvision -- This is a driver for the USB video bridge USBVision from Zoran/Nogatech.

2006-06-10 Thread Mario Izquierdo (mariodebian)
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Mario Izquierdo (mariodebian)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: usbvision Version : 0.9.7-1cvs20060608 Upstream Author : Mario Izquierdo (mariodebian) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://usbvision.sourceforge.net/ * License

Re: CDBS and dh_install

2006-06-10 Thread Duck
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > To be fair, debhelper is not co-maintained either. I never noticed it wasn't, but i do think it should. Fact is you're taking far much care when integrating changes, that's a major difference. -- Marc Dequènes (Duck) pgpmw2zfDouEZ.pgp Description: PGP s

Bug#25837: let's meet

2006-06-10 Thread Kenton
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Bug#25837: let's meet

2006-06-10 Thread Hex Star
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Re: mystery of dh_installdirs

2006-06-10 Thread Benjamin Seidenberg
Atsuhito Kohda wrote: > Hi all, I got an FTBFS bug yesterday; > > On Thu, 8 Jun 2006 08:13:53 +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > > >> Package: lynx-cur >> Version: 2.8.6dev18-1 >> Severity: serious >> >> There was an error while trying to autobuild your package: >> > ... > >>> install -m 75

Re: CDBS and dh_install

2006-06-10 Thread Steve Langasek
Bundling up a few replies here... On Sat, Jun 10, 2006 at 10:02:26AM +0300, George Danchev wrote: > I'm also debhelper fan ;-) but what makes you think that if you face a > problematic debhelper script you are not supposed to reimplement that > particular part of rules by hand as an interim wor

Conflict field for logical conflicts?

2006-06-10 Thread Jörg Sommer
Hi, should I set in package jed a conflict on a package jed-extra if jed-extra enhances jed, but jed has changed its API and now jed-extra is useless, i.e. it must be updated. jed-extra and jed can be installed at the same time without harm, but jed-extra does not enhance jed anymore, because it's

Re: CDBS and dh_install

2006-06-10 Thread Duck
Coin, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > and replace it with a very small shell script. For cdbs, you delete one > line and have to replace it with your reimplementation of a very large > makefile... That's obvious because CDBS does not target at doing little independent tasks (even