On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 02:12:48PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 05:28:35PM +0200, Filippo Giunchedi wrote:
> > Is there a list of official documents (with photos) that we can consider
> > acceptable for a KSP?. If there's not we definitely need one.
> > However this is ra
On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 06:02:07PM -0700, Tyler MacDonald wrote:
> Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > You're missing the point that sonames track *ABI* changes, and -dev package
> > names should track *API* changes. Typically, upstreams make API changes on
> > new major releases; ABI ch
John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sun, May 28, 2006 at 02:55:39AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>> > regards,
>> > -- stratus
>>
>> Any source that builds udebs is always frozen (openssl builds
>> libcrypto0.9.8-udeb). Udebs have to be moved into testing manualy and
>> without th
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On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 04:47:20PM -0500, martin f krafft wrote:
> The Debian project heavily relies on keysigning for much of its
> work. However, I think the question what the signing of a key
> actually accomplishes has not been properly addressed. In my
> opinion, from the point of view of the
On Sat, May 27, 2006, Steve Langasek wrote:
>python-gnome has a build-dependency on libgtkhtml-dev which
> should be trivially removable since none of its binary packages use it.
python-gnome is also deprecated and should go away when possible, I've
filed bugs on the rdeps already.
This one time, at band camp, Paul Johnson said:
> On Saturday 27 May 2006 16:49, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > The vote at champoeg was when the Oregon Territory voted to become
> > > Canadian. We're on the south side of the border exclusively due to
Hello Eduard,
Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> #include
> * Marco d'Itri [Sat, May 27 2006, 11:29:32AM]:
>
>> > > This is not a choice, every package which installs modules must run
>> > > depmod or they will not be available until a reboot.
>> > Yes. But no package (besides maybe module
Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Nope. You will need to keep all normal debs anyway, for new
>installations.
i thought it could be possible in the end to download the tree-package
and all its patches to then have the latest package for a new install!
so i thought there will b
On Sun, May 28, 2006 at 12:57:10AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
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> Stephen Gran wrote:
> > This one time, at band camp, Thomas Goirand said:
> >> Hello!
> >>
> >> Is there somebody in Shanghai from Debian able to check my ID
> >> and sign my key?
Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Anyway, this was proposed some times now. Have you actually read the >old
>threads and can explain why your proposal is better and actually works?
>Why haven't you implemented it yet?
not right now. i just have found out that there were some sam
Ralf Treinen wrote:
On Sun, May 28, 2006 at 12:57:10AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
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Stephen Gran wrote:
This one time, at band camp, Thomas Goirand said:
Hello!
Is there somebody in Shanghai from Debian able to check my ID
and sig
Scripsit Gunnar Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> There is something, though, that I think would be a worthy addition to
> future KSPs, if we continue to hold them: Many of us have our photo as
> part of our key. Maybe if the printed sheet was not plain-text but
> included those photos that are available
"curt manucredo (hansycm)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Nope. You will need to keep all normal debs anyway, for new
> >installations.
>
> i thought it could be possible in the end to download the tree-package
> and all its patches to then h
Quoting Andreas Barth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> I know that Peter Palfrader (weasel) submits sometimes a clear fake key
> to KSPs and looks for people signing it. (No, there is nobody there who
> claims to be that person. Only the key on the list.)
For future reference, I personnally dislike people
Le Dim 28 Mai 2006 18:50, Matthias Klose a écrit :
> Package: bugs.debian.org
> Severity: serious
>
> this bug is fixed for 4.1; with these changes you invalidate the
> information kept in the Debian BTS. Please fix it, or stop it.
>
> If you do want to do it correct, you have to keep information,
On 27 May 2006, Paul Johnson told this:
> On Saturday 27 May 2006 16:48, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
>> Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>> On Saturday 27 May 2006 16:03, Ron Johnson wrote:
Lionel Elie Mamane wrote:
> On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 05:19:21PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrot
On 27 May 2006, Thomas Bushnell spake thusly:
> Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> But then again people could lookup say mexican IDs and visas before
>> going to a KSP in mexico so they have some clue what it should look
>> like.
>
> Actually, in the present case, I believe it
Hi,
It seems that the ftp-masters haven't looked at the NEW queue
during the last month (or maybe only for java), and its size is still
increasing (see http://haydn.debian.org/~corsac-guest/new/ ). I agree
that they may want to take vacations, but IMHO, NEW is such an
important process for Deb
Your mail is not about general development of the Debian distribution
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On Sun, May 28, 2006 at 08:27:26PM +0200, Hans Kroegle wrote:
>It seems that the ftp-masters haven't looked at the NEW queue
> during the last month (or may
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On Sun, 28 May 2006, Matthias Klose wrote:
> this bug is fixed for 4.1; with these changes you invalidate the
> information kept in the Debian BTS. Please fix it, or stop it.
This has nothing to do with bugs.debian.org or the BTS at all. Talk
after another slowdown last week i installed metacity. i killed
sawfish and started metacity without X restart. immediatly everything
was fine. so i assume this is a bug with sawfish. probably not with
sawfish itself but the integration of sawfish with gnome (and/or my
settings).
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On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 09:35:31AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> "make install" already runs depmod.
What if you don't use the 'install' target? I certainly don't. Does the
'modules_install' target also run depmod? I don't claim to understand what
the comments in the kernel Makefile say about it
On May 28, Marc Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 09:35:31AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> > "make install" already runs depmod.
> What if you don't use the 'install' target? I certainly don't. Does the
> 'modules_install' target also run depmod?
Yes.
> I don't claim to
On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 01:55:44PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On 27 May 2006, Gunnar Wolf verbalised:
> > For me, yes, some questions asked, some delays involved, but no
> > detailed background checks. I'm sure neither the FBI or the CIA (or,
> > as for Mexican authorities, CISEN or PGR) were
On Sun, May 28, 2006 at 08:27:26PM +0200, Hans Kroegle wrote:
>It seems that the ftp-masters haven't looked at the NEW queue
> during the last month (or maybe only for java), and its size is still
> increasing (see http://haydn.debian.org/~corsac-guest/new/ ). I agree
> that they may want to ta
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gregor herrmann wrote:
> On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 05:34:23PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
>
>>> Description : limits the cpu usage of a process
>>> cpulimit is a simple program that attempts to limit the cpu usage of a
>>> process (expressed in pe
On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 04:47:20PM -0500, martin f krafft wrote:
> Dear Manoj, dear fellow DDs,
Hi, I'm just going to address the question you made that was directed to me.
> also sprach Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> [2006.05.25.1300 -0500]:
> > FWIW, I noted down those ke
On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 01:07:01AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 10:07:00AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> >> Only the "dpkg:arch" is required and that can be done with "Provides:
> >> dpkg-arch" again.
> > Right.
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> reassign 369257 general
> severity 369257 normal
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>
> On Sun, 28 May 2006, Matthias Klose wrote:
> > this bug is fixed for 4.1; with these changes you invalidate the
> > information kept in the Debian BTS. Please fix it,
Hi,
> First of all, my name is Martin Felix Krafft (with a final 't'), and
> my GPG key ID is 0x330c4a75. The unofficial ID I presented listed
> that name (without the middle name), a photo is available from [1]
> (sorry, can't do better now). Thus, the ID card is an unofficial
> card, but the ide
On Sun, May 28, 2006 at 11:42:16PM +0200, Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo wrote:
> I think it's debconf time and everything is slower, but will be as
> usual when it's end and everyone came back to his/her normal work.
The point of the first mail was exactly about that. NEW queue can't stay
unprocessed j
Junichi Uekawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This has opened a can of worms; because your transnational ID was as
> official as it could get. Most of us do not know what other countries
> consider to be official, and it's more of an intent and goodwill
> rather than scientific or legally binding of
On Sun, 2006-05-28 at 04:54 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 04:47:20PM -0500, martin f krafft wrote:
>
> > I imagine an improved protocol for the keysigning, which is based on
> > an idea I overheard after the party (and someone mentioned it in the
> > thread): instead of th
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > - When the API becomes incompatible (which would implicitly make the
> > ABI incompatible), both the -dev and library package should increment their
> > numbers.
>
> > - When the ABI becomes incompatible without affecting the API, only
> > the
Taking this to debian-devel...
also sprach Andrew McMillan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.05.28.1840 -0500]:
> (c) Allocate partcipants to the groups in a round robin following
> centrality order and starting with the most central.
This sounds great. We might want to consider letting people with
exper
On Sun, 2006-05-28 at 19:23 -0500, martin f krafft wrote:
> Taking this to debian-devel...
>
> also sprach Andrew McMillan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.05.28.1840 -0500]:
> > (c) Allocate partcipants to the groups in a round robin following
> > centrality order and starting with the most central.
>
On Mon, 29 May 2006, Matthias Klose wrote:
> Don Armstrong writes:
> > On Sun, 28 May 2006, Matthias Klose wrote:
> > > this bug is fixed for 4.1; with these changes you invalidate the
> > > information kept in the Debian BTS. Please fix it, or stop it.
> >
> > This has nothing to do with bugs.deb
On 5/29/06, martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Also, what do we do if the central people don't show up? It's been
known to happen at KSPs.
Put more than one in each subgroup, and have a coordinator ready to
shift the central people around if a given subgroup is really
orphaned. Or split
Junichi Uekawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> This has opened a can of worms; because your transnational ID was as
> official as it could get. Most of us do not know what other countries
> consider to be official, and it's more of an intent and goodwill
> rather than scientific or legally binding o
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> But the standards of "reasonable" are different for minors than for
>> adults. Right?
>
> Constitutional law doesn't differentiate.
Yes, it does.
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Loïc Minier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sat, May 27, 2006, Steve Langasek wrote:
>>python-gnome has a build-dependency on libgtkhtml-dev which
>> should be trivially removable since none of its binary packages use it.
>
> python-gnome is also deprecated and should go away when po
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I see you have never been in a large key signing party. There
> is a certain expectation of trust, since no one can actrually detect
> delibrate forgeries.
Except that there was nothing forged about Martin's ID card, as it has
been report
Don Armstrong writes:
> On Mon, 29 May 2006, Matthias Klose wrote:
> > Don Armstrong writes:
> > > On Sun, 28 May 2006, Matthias Klose wrote:
> > > > this bug is fixed for 4.1; with these changes you invalidate the
> > > > information kept in the Debian BTS. Please fix it, or stop it.
> > >
> > >
On Thu, 25 May 2006, El Presidente wrote:
I have seen on the internet that someone wanted to port debian to minix3, but
the report was old. Is there anyone that wants to port? I find it usefull.
I don't have the ability to do it, but if it works I will switch to it [ the
next versionof minix wil
On Sun, 2006-05-28 at 19:23 -0500, martin f krafft wrote:
> Taking this to debian-devel...
>
> also sprach Andrew McMillan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.05.28.1840 -0500]:
> > (c) Allocate partcipants to the groups in a round robin following
> > centrality order and starting with the most central.
>
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 01:07:01AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>> Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> > On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 10:07:00AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>> >> Only the "dpkg:arch" is required and that can be done
On 28 May 2006, Thomas Bushnell verbalised:
> Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> I see you have never been in a large key signing party. There is a
>> certain expectation of trust, since no one can actrually detect
>> delibrate forgeries.
>
> Except that there was nothing forged ab
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On 28 May 2006, Thomas Bushnell verbalised:
>
>> Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>> I see you have never been in a large key signing party. There is a
>>> certain expectation of trust, since no one can actrually detect
>>> delibrate
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>> If people start bringing in forged documents, no amount of caution
>>> on part of laypeople like most software developers is proof against
>>> such deception. If such deception is accepted behaviour, we may as
>>> well throw out thetrust metric, an
On 27 May 2006, martin f. krafft spake thusly:
> Dear Manoj, dear fellow DDs,
>
> I guess I could have known that this experiment of mine would turn
> into a huge thread, unfortunately extending across two mailing
> lists. Thus, it is surely in order for me to apologise for being the
> cause that
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On 27 May 2006, martin f. krafft spake thusly:
>
>
>>Dear Manoj, dear fellow DDs,
>>
>>I guess I could have known that this experiment of mine would turn
>>into a huge thread, unfortunately extending across two mailing
>>lists. Thus, it is surely in order for me to apolo
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Any act of deception, meant to exploit the weaknesses of the
> system rather than participating in a key signing in good faith is
> likely to have had this effect, yes.
That's true. What about Martin's actions, as they have been reported,
On 28 May 2006, Thomas Bushnell told this:
>>> This may be true, except that *the document was not forged*.
>>
>> So you continue to claim. And since you make statements like this
>> with no discernible means of you having verified them, I do not see
>> how discussion with you has any value whats
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Er, is it just me or isn't the point of gnupg that there *are* people
you *can't trust*. We wouldn't be needing digital signatures if
everybody honoured the 'gentleman's agreement' that we should only
sign as ourselves (or at most as a pseudonym that
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Once he has broken faith, nothing coming from that source can
> be accepted, since the source is now tainted. Any information flow
> with that origination is tainted, and since you offer the same
> statements, without any form of untaintin
"Jaldhar H. Vyas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Thu, 25 May 2006, El Presidente wrote:
>
>> I have seen on the internet that someone wanted to port debian to minix3, but
>> the report was old. Is there anyone that wants to port? I find it usefull.
>> I don't have the ability to do it, but if it
On Sun, May 28, 2006 at 11:57:43PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> The identification showed his real name and real likeness [0]. He did not
> misrepresent any information in either obtaining the document or in
> presenting it to those who requested he identify himself.
The real issue is tha
On Sun, May 28, 2006 at 09:22:10PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Once he has broken faith, nothing coming from that source can
> > be accepted, since the source is now tainted. Any information flow
> > with that origination is tai
On Mon, May 29, 2006 at 03:40:59AM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote:
> > What problems with the information in the BTS are you talking about?
> the usertags, which are wrongly set and removed.
> please don't get me wrong; generally the btslink information is
> useful, but I do see the BTS maintainers
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sun, May 28, 2006 at 11:57:43PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
>
>
>> The identification showed his real name and real likeness [0]. He did not
>> misrepresent any information in either obtaining the document or in
>> presenting it to those who re
On Sun, May 28, 2006 at 06:40:28PM -0500, Andrew McMillan wrote:
>On Sun, 2006-05-28 at 04:54 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
>>On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 04:47:20PM -0500, martin f krafft wrote:
>>
>>>I imagine an improved protocol for the keysigning, which is based on
>>>an idea I overheard after the p
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Mon, May 29, 2006 at 03:40:59AM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote:
>> > What problems with the information in the BTS are you talking about?
>
>> the usertags, which are wrongly set and removed.
>
>> please don't get me wrong; generally the btslink informa
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On Sun, May 28, 2006 at 08:57:55PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> > If I were to crack a key signing party, using Bubba's travel
> > documents, I too would swear up and down the street that he indeed
> > correctly and diligently verified all kinds of _other_ government
> > ID's whe
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