Re: APT public key updates?

2006-01-10 Thread Joey Hess
Anthony Towns wrote: > Not directly afaik. If you say "Archive Signing Key (Date <= 2006-05-01)" > apt could parse that from gpgv's output and perform the check itself, or add > a "The key used to sign these packages expired on 2006-05-01; if you obtained > this media after that date, you may have

Re: APT public key updates?

2006-01-10 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
Way to go Joey - well demonstrated :) Andy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=265920

2006-01-10 Thread Dirk Mueller
On Tuesday 10 January 2006 03:08, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > why the can't you? I can accept the fact that people complain about bugs / missing enhancements on all kinds of mailing lists, bug tracking systems, feature request documents and similiar. I however can not accept that

Re: Packet radio and foul language

2006-01-10 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 01:13:06AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Mon, 2006-01-09 at 19:13 -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: > > On Mon, 09 Jan 2006, Benjamin Seidenberg wrote: > > > Miles Bader wrote: > [snip] > > > > I, for one, am far more interested in the message than the way which > > the message

Re: Need for launchpad

2006-01-10 Thread Federico Di Gregorio
Il giorno lun, 09/01/2006 alle 16.02 -0800, Matt Zimmerman ha scritto: > On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 12:32:32AM +0100, Federico Di Gregorio wrote: > > What really I don't understand is how a proprietary tool can promote > > more efficient collaboration on the development of _free software_. > > Sounds

Re: packages for sale

2006-01-10 Thread Mohammed Adnène Trojette
On Sun, Jan 08, 2006, Clint Adams wrote: > ttf-kacst > ttf-paktype I am interested by these one, as maintainer of ttf-arabeyes. > If you want one of these, upload it with yourself as Maintainer. > Immediately. My sponsor is going to upload them (thanks Christian!) Thanks for your work on these

Re: Packet radio and foul language

2006-01-10 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 07:03:24AM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > The UK authorities can take away my amateur licence and fine me (and > potentially put me in jail) for wilfully breaking the terms of my > licence. My hobby is governed by an international agreement - so > the ITU in Berne coul

Re: Packet radio and foul language

2006-01-10 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 01:03:33AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > How exactly do IP packets get transmitted via packet radio? Morse > code, with binary files uuencoded? Is that a serious question? Packet radio IS the layer 1/2, which clearly rules out Morse code. In fact, IP is encapsulated into AX

Re: Canonical's business model

2006-01-10 Thread Andrew Suffield
[Most of the replies from people appear to have completely missed the point, but I'll just pick up on this one because it's not so far off...] On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 11:52:43AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > It's also important to not completely conflate the people who work for > Canonical with the

Re: Canonical's business model

2006-01-10 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 12:22:03AM -0200, Gustavo Franco wrote: > I don't[sic] the same rant over others Debian related companies Have you ever actually subscribed to any Debian mailing lists? -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://www.debian.org/ | `. `'

Re: Bug#344538: hppa dependency problems on build of pdns

2006-01-10 Thread Frank Küster
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 02:37:53PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: >> The same happened to the planner package, and has been reported as >> #344538. It seems that hppa buildd is broken, don't know yet whether >> the buildd admin (Lamont) or anybody of the de

Re: poppler

2006-01-10 Thread Frank Küster
Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 05:00:53PM +0100, Isaac Clerencia wrote: >> On Monday, 9 January 2006 15:03, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: >> > Unfortunately kpdf upstream seems quite reluctant to switch to poppler, see >> > http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11945

immodule in Qt problems

2006-01-10 Thread Martin Meredith
Apparently - theres a major problem with immodule in Qt at the moment - which causes KeyReleasedEvent ro return a value of 0 for any QKeyEvent ... which is bad - and means that anything that relies on it will have problems processing the keypresses. I found this out after my app in ubuntu had pr

Re: Bug#344538: hppa dependency problems on build of pdns

2006-01-10 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 11:08:14AM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: > Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 02:37:53PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: > >> The same happened to the planner package, and has been reported as > >> #344538. It seems that hppa buildd is broken, do

Re: Bug#344538: hppa dependency problems on build of pdns

2006-01-10 Thread Frank Küster
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 11:08:14AM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: > >> It *seems* it has been fixed; but I don't know whether it has just >> disappeared, or has been fixed by human intervention, and if yes by >> which. Since the first may be true, it might

Re: unsolvable circular dependencies and package splitting

2006-01-10 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Steve Langasek writes: > Huh? The bottom of that bug log shows a proposed solution that should work > just fine. Ok, that's not quite how I read it. The discussion ended with an idea for a fix and invitation to make such a package. That package never materialized, so I assumed there must be mo

Re: Packet radio and foul language

2006-01-10 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 09:28 +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 01:13:06AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Mon, 2006-01-09 at 19:13 -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: > > > On Mon, 09 Jan 2006, Benjamin Seidenberg wrote: > > > > Miles Bader wrote: > > [snip] > > > > > > I, for one, a

Re: Packet radio and foul language

2006-01-10 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 20:52 +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 01:03:33AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > How exactly do IP packets get transmitted via packet radio? Morse > > code, with binary files uuencoded? > > Is that a serious question? Totally serious, since the only way

Re: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=265920

2006-01-10 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Matthew Garrett [Tue, 10 Jan 2006 02:50:56 +]: > Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > i've thought for a long time about how to reply to your message. > Let's quickly outline what's happened here: > 1) Luke files a bug agains Debian. So far, so good. > 2) Some time l

Re: Canonical's business model

2006-01-10 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 1/10/06, Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 12:22:03AM -0200, Gustavo Franco wrote: > > I don't[sic] the same rant over others Debian related companies > > Have you ever actually subscribed to any Debian mailing lists? > Hi Andrew, Don't be fooled by From mail

Re: Need for launchpad

2006-01-10 Thread Florian Weimer
* Russ Allbery: > Debian isn't perfect at this. There are portions of the Debian > infrastructure where the exact version that Debian is running are not > necessarily available. However, these are generally considered within the > project to be anomolies and Debian *does* have a general committm

Re: Bug#344538: hppa dependency problems on build of pdns

2006-01-10 Thread LaMont Jones
On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 11:08:14AM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: > Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > or a bug in some > > maintainer script or other; > How a bug in a maintainer script could have the result that installing > an arch-all package fails because an other arch-all package is no

Re: Aptitude question

2006-01-10 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Though I love the aptitude interface and functionality, I've noticed > that on my home machine (not so fast, but not too bad with average > software), normal aptitude operation has been getting more and more > slothlike in recent times, to the point where

Re: Bug#344538: hppa dependency problems on build of pdns

2006-01-10 Thread Frank Küster
LaMont Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 11:08:14AM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: >> Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > or a bug in some >> > maintainer script or other; >> How a bug in a maintainer script could have the result that installing >> an arch-all packa

Re: Packet radio and foul language

2006-01-10 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Andrew Suffield wrote: > > Dishonesty is *not* an equivalent substitute for respect. If you're > being nice to somebody even though you don't like them, that doesn't > make you a better person, it just makes you a liar. It is possible to be nice to someone that you do not like, and to do so hones

Re: Bug#344538: hppa dependency problems on build of pdns

2006-01-10 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 12:24:47PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: > Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Historically such > > problems were unpleasantly frequent on buildds due to a combination of buggy > > postrm scripts, and a bug in dpkg's rollback support when calling dpkg > > --purge fo

Re: Powerfulness

2006-01-10 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Tuesday 10 January 2006 03:44, Miles Bader wrote: > Juergen Salk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > According to their package descriptions, we seem to have exactly > > six powerful text editors in Debian. These are elvis, jove, > > mined, ne, nedit and zed. Emacs, vim and many others do not > > be

Re: Need your support!!!

2006-01-10 Thread Dorel Furdui
 Hello! We are a young couple from the Republic of Moldova (Central Europe). We graduated the State University of Moldova, Faculty of Foreign Languages and Literatures this year (2005) and we can't find a job concerning our knowledge. So we decided to open a translations bureau here, in Moldova,

Bug#347439: ITP: libpwc -- library to uncompress in userland the raw from pwc driver

2006-01-10 Thread Victor Seva
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Victor Seva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libpwc Version : 0.1.0 Upstream Author : Luc Saillard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.saillard.org/linux/pwc/files/ * License : LGPL Description : library to un

Re: packages for sale

2006-01-10 Thread Christoph Haas
On Monday 09 January 2006 09:52, Zak B. Elep wrote: > On 1/9/06, Clint Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I intend to orphan the following packages: > > > > bricolage > > dbacl > > I intend to adopt the above packages. > > > If you want one of these, upload it with yourself as Maintainer. > > Imm

Re: Packet radio and foul language

2006-01-10 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 09:28 +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 01:13:06AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Mon, 2006-01-09 at 19:13 -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: > > > On Mon, 09 Jan 2006, Benjamin Seidenberg wrote: > > > > Miles Bader wrote: > > [snip] > > > > > > I, for one, a

Re: Need for launchpad

2006-01-10 Thread Russ Allbery
Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Russ Allbery: >> Debian isn't perfect at this. There are portions of the Debian >> infrastructure where the exact version that Debian is running are not >> necessarily available. However, these are generally considered within >> the project to be an

Re: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=265920

2006-01-10 Thread Marcus D. Hanwell
On Tuesday 10 January 2006 13:04, Adeodato Simó wrote: > * Matthew Garrett [Tue, 10 Jan 2006 02:50:56 +]: > > Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > i've thought for a long time about how to reply to your message. > > > > Let's quickly outline what's happened here: > > >

Bug#347469: O: installwatch -- orphaning the installwatch package

2006-01-10 Thread Greg Norris
Package: installwatch Version: 0.6.3-2 Severity: normal I haven't touched installwatch in quite some time, and no longer have any real interest in the beastie, so I've decided to orphan this package. At one point Matt Hope had expressed interest in taking it over (more recent versions are bundled

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies, stage 3

2006-01-10 Thread Joe Smith
"Joey Hess" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> debconf debconf-english debconf-i18n These are all necessary, and debconf is an essential package which is not subject to the circular dependency postinst ordering problems afaik. Well

Re: APT public key updates?

2006-01-10 Thread Frans Pop
On Saturday 20 February 2010 09:15, Joey Hess wrote: > Nonzero exit; odd, it doesn't seem to notice that the key is expired at > all. But apt won't use gpgv like that, I suppose, but instead like > this: Note though that other packages, like debmirror, do: my $GPG="gpg --no-tty -q"; [...] if (!-f

Re: Need for launchpad

2006-01-10 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Stephan Hermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > - Do not use foul language; besides, some people receive the lists > via packet radio, where swearing is illegal. Are you saying some people are transmitting the lists via radio without taking personal responsiblity for their transmissions? Shame on

Re: Canonical's business model

2006-01-10 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Gustavo Franco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It's up to Canonical how they will contribute back to the community, > IMHO. I don't the same rant over others Debian related companies so > i'm assuming that we're wasting time shooting Canonical, (mainly) > because Ubuntu is sucessful. No, I think it

Re: Packet radio and foul language

2006-01-10 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 12:43:16PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > Dishonesty is *not* an equivalent substitute for respect. If you're > > being nice to somebody even though you don't like them, that doesn't > > make you a better person, it just makes you a liar. > With beliefs like that, no wonder t

Re: Powerfulness

2006-01-10 Thread Miles Bader
Adrian von Bidder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> You're right in general, but there actually seems to be a fairly >> distinct divide in editors, between "simple editors for newbs" and >> "not-so-simple but, er, powerful editors" > > So vim is in the simple, for newbies class? Naw, it just needs "p

Re: Need for launchpad

2006-01-10 Thread Benjamin Seidenberg
Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Stephan Hermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: - Do not use foul language; besides, some people receive the lists via packet radio, where swearing is illegal. Are you saying some people are transmitting the lists via radio without taking personal responsiblit

Re: Is mesa actually maintained?

2006-01-10 Thread David Nusinow
On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 11:25:17AM -0500, David Nusinow wrote: > On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 09:26:33AM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > > Hello! This is one of 5 RC bugs, apparently with no maintainer response. > > Apparently the list which is listed as the maintainer is rejecting messages > > (33

Re: APT public key updates?

2006-01-10 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Frans Pop wrote: > On Saturday 20 February 2010 09:15, Joey Hess wrote: >>Nonzero exit; odd, it doesn't seem to notice that the key is expired at >>all. But apt won't use gpgv like that, I suppose, but instead like >>this: > Note though that other packages, like debmirror, do: > > my $GPG="gpg --