Re: Request: Source for parts of GNU/Solaris

2005-11-08 Thread Frank Küster
"Erast Benson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David, > > this is the place were source code lives: > > http://www.gnusolaris.org/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/browser/gnusolaris1/gnu , Permission Denied | Insufficient permissions to access /gnusolaris1/gnu ` Frank -- Frank Küster Inst. f. Biochemie

Re: New version of kernel-package to create image packages using debconf

2005-11-08 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Nov 07, 2005 at 09:35:38PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > A new version of kernel-package is imminent, it is undergoing > boot camp out in experimental. For the impatient, this release brings > the log awaited debconf usage for kernel image packages -- and the > raison d'etre

Re: Licenses for DebConf6 [was: Re: DebConf6: Call For Papers]

2005-11-08 Thread Andreas Schuldei
* Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-11-08 00:28:07]: > "The authors have the freedom to pick a DFSG-free license" means that > they *may* do so, but are not required to. Am I correct? > > IMHO, DebConf paper authors should be *required* to publish in a > DFSG-free manner, as a condition for

Re: Request: Source for parts of GNU/Solaris

2005-11-08 Thread David Schmitt
On Tuesday 08 November 2005 01:48, Erast Benson wrote: > www.gnusolaris.org is *the same place*. Oh, I expected some tar-ball to be linked from the same place as the ISOs (i.e. the Downloads page) not some point-and-click SVN-webinterface. > > this URL also does _neither_ offer access to the apt

Debconf problem

2005-11-08 Thread Frank Küster
Hi, I posted this question yesterday on -mentors, but since nobody answered, it seems it isn't as trivial as I had hoped. I have either some fundamental misunderstanding of how debconf or maintainer scripts work, or there is an error in the descriptioin of how debconf-using scripts should handle

Bug#338128: ITP: miredo -- IPv6 Teredo tunnneling client, relay and server

2005-11-08 Thread Matt Brown
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Matt Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: miredo Version : 0.5.3 Upstream Author : Rémi Denis-Courmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.simphalempin.com/dev/miredo/ * License : GPL v2 Description : IPv6 T

bts2ldap-gateway: new host bts2ldap.debian.net

2005-11-08 Thread Andreas Barth
Hi, once again, the ldap-part of the bts2ldap-gateway changed its location. It is now on bts2ldap.debian.net (but this host name has the advantage that it can stay, even if the ldap-server moves once again :), port is 10101. Thanks to Andrew Pollock for offering some space on one of his machines

Bug#338153: ITP: cdpr -- Cisco Discovery Protocol Reporter

2005-11-08 Thread Matt Zagrabelny
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Matt Zagrabelny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: cdpr Version : 2.2.0 Upstream Author : Lance O'Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.d.umn.edu/~mzagrabe/debian/cdpr/ * License : GPL Description : Cisco D

Re: Request: Source for parts of GNU/Solaris

2005-11-08 Thread Andy Teijelo Pérez
El Martes, 8 de Noviembre de 2005 1:11, Thomas Bushnell BSG escribió: > "Erast Benson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I understand your concern. We will release ISO image with CDDL/GPL > > sources very soon. Majority of them already available at /apt. The rest > > is comming. > > Once again, delet

Re: Request: Source for parts of GNU/Solaris

2005-11-08 Thread Florian Weimer
* Andy Teijelo Pérez: > El Martes, 8 de Noviembre de 2005 1:11, Thomas Bushnell BSG escribió: >> "Erast Benson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > I understand your concern. We will release ISO image with CDDL/GPL >> > sources very soon. Majority of them already available at /apt. The rest >> > is c

Re: Accepted console-tools 1:0.2.3dbs-58 (source all i386)

2005-11-08 Thread Unknown
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Re: Request: Source for parts of GNU/Solaris

2005-11-08 Thread Andreas Barth
* Thomas Bushnell BSG ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [051108 07:11]: > "Erast Benson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I understand your concern. We will release ISO image with CDDL/GPL sources > > very soon. Majority of them already available at /apt. The rest is > > comming. > Once again, delete the binari

bug closing etiquette

2005-11-08 Thread Eric Cooper
Suppose someone has reported a bug that the maintainer can't reproduce, but the reporter can. Is it reasonable for the maintainer to email the reporter and ask whether a new version fixes the problem, or is that considered obnoxious? -- Eric Cooper e c c @ c m u . e d u -- To UNSU

Re: bug closing etiquette

2005-11-08 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Eric Cooper in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Suppose someone has reported a bug that the maintainer can't > reproduce, but the reporter can. Is it reasonable for the maintainer > to email the reporter and ask whether a new version fixes the problem, > or is that considered obnoxious? You mean, rather

Re: bug closing etiquette

2005-11-08 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2005-11-08 at 09:53 -0500, Eric Cooper wrote: > Suppose someone has reported a bug that the maintainer can't > reproduce, but the reporter can. Is it reasonable for the maintainer > to email the reporter and ask whether a new version fixes the problem, > or is that considered obnoxious? D

Re: bug closing etiquette

2005-11-08 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Nov 08, Eric Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Suppose someone has reported a bug that the maintainer can't > reproduce, but the reporter can. Is it reasonable for the maintainer > to email the reporter and ask whether a new version fixes the problem, > or is that considered obnoxious? It's

Re: Request: Source for parts of GNU/Solaris

2005-11-08 Thread sean finney
On Tue, Nov 08, 2005 at 03:43:36PM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote: > You could send them e.g. a DMCA Takedown Notice. Especially as they > didn't listen before. Of course only if you're the author of one of the > relevant programms. you could also send their isp(s) and/or hosting provider(s) said tak

Re: bug closing etiquette

2005-11-08 Thread Nico Golde
Hi, * Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-11-08 16:18]: > On Tue, 2005-11-08 at 09:53 -0500, Eric Cooper wrote: > > Suppose someone has reported a bug that the maintainer can't > > reproduce, but the reporter can. Is it reasonable for the maintainer > > to email the reporter and ask whether a ne

Re: device nodes with udev?

2005-11-08 Thread Jerome Warnier
Le lundi 07 novembre 2005 à 14:06 +0100, Marco d'Itri a écrit : > On Nov 07, Gabor Gombas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Wrong. Nothing needs BSD ptys but some *very* old applications (I would > > > not even know where to find one). > > At least /sbin/bootlogd does not work without BSD ptys an

PhD / Doktorandenstelle: OCR für Linux (Open Source)

2005-11-08 Thread RalfGesellensetter
(X-post to kde-devel. please reply to debian-devel@lists.debian.org) Liebe Entwickler, dear developers, as far as I can tell, current alternatives to commercial products (I dare name Abbyy Finereader and Omnipage Pro) such as gocr and ocrad, fail to reach the same standards. This is partly a ma

Bug#338174: ITP: systemtap -- instrumentation system for Linux

2005-11-08 Thread Eugeniy Meshcheryakov
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Eugeniy Meshcheryakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: systemtap Upstream Authors: Frank Ch. Eigler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Graydon Hoare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Martin Hunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To

Re: Debconf problem

2005-11-08 Thread Joey Hess
Frank Küster wrote: > However, in case apt-utils is installed, this script will be run twice: > Once by dpkg-preconfigure, i.e. in the preinst stage, and once by > confmodule when the postinst script sources confmodule. As far as I can > see, this will have a confusing effect. Assume the configfi

Re: Request: Source for parts of GNU/Solaris

2005-11-08 Thread Erast Benson
> On Tuesday 08 November 2005 01:48, Erast Benson wrote: >> www.gnusolaris.org is *the same place*. > > Oh, I expected some tar-ball to be linked from the same place as the ISOs > (i.e. the Downloads page) not some point-and-click SVN-webinterface. > >> > this URL also does _neither_ offer access t

Re: Debconf problem

2005-11-08 Thread Frank Küster
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > dpkg-reconfigure runs the config script exactly once, so the config file > is read once, its values are used for defaults to the questions to allow > reconfiguration, and are saved to the config file by the postinst. Yes, I was wrong about this - it's only r

KJV Bible - Crown Copyright in UK [was: Bug#338077: ITP: sword-text-kvj -- King James Version with Strongs Numbers and Morphology]

2005-11-08 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
( Please mail followups to: [EMAIL PROTECTED], debian-legal@lists.debian.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) On Tue, Nov 08, 2005 at 10:13:42AM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > Quoting Lionel Elie Mamane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> On Mon, Nov 07, 2005 at 08:51:26PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanc

Re: Request: Source for parts of GNU/Solaris

2005-11-08 Thread David Schmitt
On Tuesday 08 November 2005 17:17, Erast Benson wrote: > OK, for your convenient, http://www.gnusolaris.org/sources shold has > everything latest/not-committed tarballs of source code with our > modifications for every package we are using. > > We are preparing cron job, so, will update them every

Re: Debconf problem

2005-11-08 Thread Joey Hess
Frank Küster wrote: > I found no way to cleanly solve the problem of > > - writing the current state into the debconf database, so that > noninteractive installs don't change anything > > - actually reflect changed answers in the system. The config script is passed parameters that you can use

Re: Request: Source for parts of GNU/Solaris

2005-11-08 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Andy Teijelo Pérez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > El Martes, 8 de Noviembre de 2005 1:11, Thomas Bushnell BSG escribió: >> "Erast Benson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > I understand your concern. We will release ISO image with CDDL/GPL >> > sources very soon. Majority of them already available at

Re: bug closing etiquette

2005-11-08 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Eric Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Suppose someone has reported a bug that the maintainer can't > reproduce, but the reporter can. Is it reasonable for the maintainer > to email the reporter and ask whether a new version fixes the problem, > or is that considered obnoxious? It's certainly

Re: Request: Source for parts of GNU/Solaris

2005-11-08 Thread Erast Benson
> On Tuesday 08 November 2005 17:17, Erast Benson wrote: >> OK, for your convenient, http://www.gnusolaris.org/sources shold has >> everything latest/not-committed tarballs of source code with our >> modifications for every package we are using. >> >> We are preparing cron job, so, will update them

Re: Request: Source for parts of GNU/Solaris

2005-11-08 Thread Alex Ross
Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Andy Teijelo Pérez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: El Martes, 8 de Noviembre de 2005 1:11, Thomas Bushnell BSG escribió: "Erast Benson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I understand your concern. We will release ISO image with CDDL/GPL sources very soon. Majority of them alr

Re: Request: Source for parts of GNU/Solaris

2005-11-08 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 11/8/05, Alex Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Note that we have limited resources. How is that relevant?

Re: Request: Source for parts of GNU/Solaris

2005-11-08 Thread Adam Heath
On Tue, 8 Nov 2005, Erast Benson wrote: > OK, for your convenient, http://www.gnusolaris.org/sources shold has > everything latest/not-committed tarballs of source code with our > modifications for every package we are using. > > We are preparing cron job, so, will update them every night until we

Re: Oldenburg DevJam meeting (2005-09-23)

2005-11-08 Thread -.JavaManiac.-
On 11/8/05, Arnaud Vandyck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi, > > This is the (long awaited) report from the DevJam (Debian Java > Meeting) from Oldenburg (September 23 2005)[0]. You can find other > reports at the SkoleLinux Wiki[1] or

Bug#338203: 73 pkgs contain debhelper maintscript remnant (cruft?)

2005-11-08 Thread Justin Pryzby
Package: lintian Severity: wishlist I am including a list of 73 packages which happened to be installed on my laptop which contain a maintscript with the fragment: # dh_installdeb will replace this with shell code automatically # generated by other debhelper scripts. Maybe this is a debhelpe

Re: Request: Source for parts of GNU/Solaris

2005-11-08 Thread David Schmitt
On Tuesday 08 November 2005 20:29, Erast Benson wrote: > > For example, I have found > > http://www.gnusolaris.org/apt/dists/elatte-unstable/main/binary-solaris-i > >386/base/apt_0.6.40.1-1.1_solaris-i386.deb which seems to be installed on > > the ISO image, but no corresponding source package unde

Re: Bug#338203: 73 pkgs contain debhelper maintscript remnant (cruft?)

2005-11-08 Thread Russ Allbery
Justin Pryzby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Package: lintian > Severity: wishlist > I am including a list of 73 packages which happened to be installed on > my laptop which contain a maintscript with the fragment: > # dh_installdeb will replace this with shell code automatically > # generate

Re: bug closing etiquette

2005-11-08 Thread Ben Pfaff
Eric Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Suppose someone has reported a bug that the maintainer can't > reproduce, but the reporter can. Is it reasonable for the maintainer > to email the reporter and ask whether a new version fixes the problem, > or is that considered obnoxious? I think it's a

Re: apt-proxy

2005-11-08 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > However, I prefer the approach over apt-cacher, as the apt-sources > entries remain independent of the server that will be used to retrieve > the files. I originally kept away from apt-cacher for exactly that reason, but it now (as of version 1.0.6) support

Re: Bug#338203: 73 pkgs contain debhelper maintscript remnant (cruft?)

2005-11-08 Thread Russ Allbery
Justin Pryzby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > OH. Maybe I understand. The maintscripts of the packages in my list > were probably initially dh_make templates, and the maintainers didn't > remove that comment. The packages not in my list either have > maintscripts created from scratch by debhelper

Re: bug closing etiquette

2005-11-08 Thread Russ Allbery
Ben Pfaff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Anyone have a suggestion about what to do when the maintainer > can't reproduce it and the reporter can only reproduce it on one > of his machines? I'm kind of stymied on #329333 for Autoconf. > No idea what the problem is here. Well, the problem is that f

Re: Bug#338203: 73 pkgs contain debhelper maintscript remnant (cruft?)

2005-11-08 Thread Justin Pryzby
On Tue, Nov 08, 2005 at 12:57:40PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Justin Pryzby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "This" refers to the #DEBHELPER# token. OH. Maybe I understand. The maintscripts of the packages in my list were probably initially dh_make templates, and the maintainers didn't remove that

Re: Request: Source for parts of GNU/Solaris

2005-11-08 Thread Erast Benson
> On Tue, 8 Nov 2005, Erast Benson wrote: > >> OK, for your convenient, http://www.gnusolaris.org/sources shold has >> everything latest/not-committed tarballs of source code with our >> modifications for every package we are using. >> >> We are preparing cron job, so, will update them every night

Re: Licenses for DebConf6

2005-11-08 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Don't you agree that seeing non-free or even undistributable (no license > means "All Rights Reserved", with current laws!) papers at a DebConf is > really a shame? I don't. Remember that non-free != evil, and that some of the arguments why free soft

Bug#338236: ITP: natstat -- A traffic monitoring program

2005-11-08 Thread Florent Bayle
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Florent Bayle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Package name: natstat Version : 0.0.10 Upstream Author : Tommy Wallberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://svearike.sytes.net/natstat/ * License

Re: New version of kernel-package to create image packages using debconf

2005-11-08 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 8 Nov 2005 07:43:14 +0100, Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Quoting Manoj Srivastava ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): >> Hi, >> >> A new version of kernel-package is imminent, it is undergoing boot >> camp out in experimental. For the impatient, this release brings >> the log awaited de

Re: Dependencies of -dev packages

2005-11-08 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 09:07:12AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Like I said, this defeats the entire point of the FHS. What is the "entire point" of the FHS? If it is to disallow alternative implementations of the same interface to co-exist then the FHS is broken. Fortunately, this is not my read

Re: Request: Source for parts of GNU/Solaris

2005-11-08 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Nov 08, 2005 at 03:39:23PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > They began distributing binaries to a large audience *after* they were > notified of the problems. This gives the impression that they don't > care about GPL compliance, and want to gain publicity *now*, > exploiting the "GNU" and "

Re: Request: Source for parts of GNU/Solaris

2005-11-08 Thread Matthew Garrett
Anthony Towns wrote: > I'm amazed at the level of intolerence that's greeting a pretty major > contribution to the free software community. There are, what, five major > OS/kernels for PCs/workstatsions these days -- Windows, OS X, Solaris, > BSD and Linux. How does it make any sense at all to be

Re: bug closing etiquette

2005-11-08 Thread Miles Bader
Eric Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Suppose someone has reported a bug that the maintainer can't > reproduce, but the reporter can. Is it reasonable for the maintainer > to email the reporter and ask whether a new version fixes the problem, > or is that considered obnoxious? It doesn't seem

Re: Request: Source for parts of GNU/Solaris

2005-11-08 Thread Bill Gatliff
Anthony: I'm amazed at the level of intolerence that's greeting a pretty major contribution to the free software community. There are, what, five major OS/kernels for PCs/workstatsions these days -- Windows, OS X, Solaris, BSD and Linux. How does it make any sense at all to be hostile to the fac

Re: bug closing etiquette

2005-11-08 Thread Bill Gatliff
Eric: Miles Bader wrote: Eric Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Suppose someone has reported a bug that the maintainer can't reproduce, but the reporter can. Is it reasonable for the maintainer to email the reporter and ask whether a new version fixes the problem, or is that considered ob

Re: Request: Source for parts of GNU/Solaris

2005-11-08 Thread Adam Heath
On Tue, 8 Nov 2005, Erast Benson wrote: > > The source and binaries *must* match, period. You can't have tarballs > > being > > constantly upgraded, and the binaries not, or vice versa. The > > source+binary > > must be done as a whole unit. > > > > Also, with this email, I am making a formal re

Re: Request: Source for parts of GNU/Solaris

2005-11-08 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
On Wed, Nov 09, 2005 at 11:39:20AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > I'm amazed at the level of intolerence that's greeting a pretty major > contribution to the free software community. There are, what, five major > OS/kernels for PCs/workstatsions these days -- Windows, OS X, Solaris, > BSD and Linux.

Re: Request: Source for parts of GNU/Solaris

2005-11-08 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Nov 08, 2005 at 08:29:31PM -0600, Bill Gatliff wrote: > I think that in this instant case, the "hostility" is the allegation > that a Debian-based "GNU/Solaris" system as described by Erast isn't > possible. Of course it's possible. Trivially: you do it by buying a majority of shares i

Re: Request: Source for parts of GNU/Solaris

2005-11-08 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Nov 09, 2005 at 02:23:30AM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: > Anthony Towns wrote: > > I'm amazed at the level of intolerence that's greeting a pretty major > > contribution to the free software community. There are, what, five major > > OS/kernels for PCs/workstatsions these days -- Windows,

Re: Request: Source for parts of GNU/Solaris

2005-11-08 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Anthony Towns writes: > When you see some code that's not available under the GPL's terms, > what's your reaction: > > (a) gosh, what can I do to convince the author to give it to me > under the GPL? > > (b) you aren't/shouldn't be allowed to do that. stop now. > > (c) *shrug*

Re: Request: Source for parts of GNU/Solaris

2005-11-08 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Nov 08, 2005 at 08:55:41PM -0600, Kenneth Pronovici wrote: > You'll note that even in the initial part of the thread when Debian > folks were (generally) being polite, From the very first response: ] > and openness. ] You keep using that word. I do not think it means, what you think it

Bug#338272: ITP: libpoe-filter-ircd-perl -- a POE-based parser for the IRC protocol

2005-11-08 Thread Steve Kowalik
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: libpoe-filter-ircd-perl Version : 1.2-1 Upstream Author : Jonathan Steinert, now Chris Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL or Web page : http://search.cpan.org/~bingos/POE-Filter-IRCD-1.2/ * License : GPL/Artistic Descripti

Re: Request: Source for parts of GNU/Solaris

2005-11-08 Thread Bill Gatliff
Anthony: Loved your "for those of you following at home" post. As is "pressing" people. You can justify hostility, certainly; but it's at least worth trying "honest and cooperative" as an approach first. It didn't start out that way, not as I read it anyway. When you see some code that's