On 11/1/05, Frank Lichtenheld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 31, 2005 at 06:56:44PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote:
> > In my opinion this is not a bug (except if the package is crucial for
> > the system to work and be reachable, like ssh) - the local admin simply
> > has to review the change
Scripsit Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> No, it's a bug in dpkg-dev, which should know how to set ${Source-Version}
> correctly for binNMUs.
It can't really know, can it? If I have a control file with
Package: foo
Architecture: any
Package: foo-data-extra
Architecture: all
Packa
Scripsit Josh Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On Monday 31 October 2005 09:54 am, Henning Makholm wrote:
>> This confuses me a bit; I thought that 'autotrace' was in the mess too
>> (due to libmagick and libpstoedit transitions), and had an upload to
>> make it installable-in-sid planned for tonight
ma, 2005-10-31 kello 22:03 +0100, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
kirjoitti:
> After the feedback of the recent d-d thread, I've adapted the section I wrote
> on the best practices related to system users and groups, it is currently
> available at:
> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-refe
Frank Lichtenheld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 31, 2005 at 06:56:44PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote:
>> In my opinion this is not a bug (except if the package is crucial for
>> the system to work and be reachable, like ssh) - the local admin simply
>> has to review the changes to conffiles
Scripsit Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> These variables can be changed by a configuration file, and some of them
> *must* be set. Now if a user refuses to accept the change that switches
> from VARTEXMF to TEXMFVAR (or TEXMFSYSVAR, actually), TeX can no longer
> work.
You seem to assume that
On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 09:29:58AM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote:
> Scripsit Josh Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > On Monday 31 October 2005 09:54 am, Henning Makholm wrote:
> >> This confuses me a bit; I thought that 'autotrace' was in the mess too
> >> (due to libmagick and libpstoedit transitions
Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Scripsit Josh Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> On Monday 31 October 2005 09:54 am, Henning Makholm wrote:
>
>>> This confuses me a bit; I thought that 'autotrace' was in the mess too
>>> (due to libmagick and libpstoedit transitions), and had an upload to
On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 09:27:06AM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote:
> Scripsit Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > No, it's a bug in dpkg-dev, which should know how to set ${Source-Version}
> > correctly for binNMUs.
> It can't really know, can it? If I have a control file with
> Package: foo
hi javier,
On Mon, Oct 31, 2005 at 10:03:01PM +0100, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:
> I would like developers to review and provide feedback for that section,
thanks for actually putting this into a document, however, i notice
two problems:
- the addgroup/adduser functions mask the error
On Sun, Oct 30, 2005 at 09:48:35AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Zsync checksum files are, depending on block size, about 3% of the
> file size. For the full archive that means under 10G more data. As
> comparison adding amd64 needs ~30G. After the scc split there might be
> enough space on
ma, 2005-10-31 kello 22:03 +0100, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
kirjoitti:
> I would like developers to review and provide feedback for that section,
> specially in form of patches. I'm considering doing a bug hunt for:
> Typically this means that the configuration files are owned by group, belon
Scripsit Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 09:29:58AM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote:
>> Interesting. I don't think anybody will miss autotrace in testing for
>> the time being (it exists mostly because it's a build-dependency of
>> something), but it would be nice if the
Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Scripsit Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>> These variables can be changed by a configuration file, and some of them
>> *must* be set. Now if a user refuses to accept the change that switches
>> from VARTEXMF to TEXMFVAR (or TEXMFSYSVAR, actually),
On 31/10/2005 Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:
> After the feedback of the recent d-d thread, I've adapted the section I wrote
> on the best practices related to system users and groups, it is currently
> available at:
> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/ch-best-pkging-pra
On 01/11/2005 To Debian-Devel wrote:
> the group deletion has currently a problem. From 6.5.1.3 'Removing system
> users':
>
> # Remove system group if is a system group
> CREATEDGROUP=server_group
> if [ -r /etc/adduser.conf ] ; then
> FIRST_USER_GID=`grep ^USERS_GID /etc/adduser.conf | cut -f2
Scripsit Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Scripsit Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> This is a reasonable concern, but the standing policy is that if a package
>> is RC-buggy, it's a candidate for removal from testing at any time.
> The fact that "it is a candidate for removal" is a comp
Scripsit Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> You seem to assume that the *only* way to get this change into the
>> file is to forcibly discard all of the sysadmin's local adaptations
>> and install a pristine upstream version of the conffile.
> No, of
Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Scripsit Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>> You seem to assume that the *only* way to get this change into the
>>> file is to forcibly discard all of the sysadmin's local adaptations
>>> and install a pr
Package: wnpp
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Owner: Laurent Fousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* Package name: nymbaron
Version : 0.0.20050507
Upstream Authors : Laurent Fousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jean-René Reinhard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
* URL : http://www.komite.net/l
[Frank Küster]
> assume that an update to a package brings in a changed conffile, and
> because the local admin had changed the conffile, he is asked, and he
> refuses to accept the changed version.
>
> Because one of the changes in the new version was crucial for the
> function of the program, th
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005, Andreas Tille wrote:
> The meta packages builded by cdd-dev for instance contain data for building
> user menus which might override the menu entries of the dependant packages
> for the special purpose. This is definitely something else than
> debian/control but sounds to me d
On Tue, 1 Nov 2005, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
IMHO, drop the "Meta" prefix, then. There is no shame in doing so.
Well, just dropping the meta is a little bit to simple. There is an
extensive documentation about the Custom Debian Distribution techniques
and the tools that are used at
As I'm sure everyone knows, pure virtual entries in a Depends line are
strongly deprecated, due to the fact that frontends have a tendency to pick
a random provider of the package. What I'm not sure is if this is just "ugly"
or actually considered a bug. In particular, I can't remember and woul
On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 04:53:33 -0500, sean finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>if you're going to do this, it would be better to provide a program
>or a shell library that is sourced in the postinst, and then
>awrapper function which does all of this.
I would be willing to accept patches for the add
On Tue, 01 Nov 2005, Andreas Tille wrote:
> does not fit into the scope they would give the name "meta package".
Well, I'd expect meta packages to have nothing on them and I'd be surprised
to find relevant data inside them.
If you have to keep that "meta", you'd better do some work on the package
#include
* Simon Richter [Mon, Oct 31 2005, 07:00:43PM]:
> Hi,
>
> Eduard Bloch schrieb:
>
> > Yep. What about another crazy idea... why not check the expected impact
> > from a certain package update before a package has been accepted in
> > _Unstable_? So katie could just veto a version change
On Thu, Oct 27, 2005 at 10:06:22AM +0200, Robert Lemmen wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 26, 2005 at 09:15:38PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> > (And yes, we still need a solution to speed up the actual deb file
> > downloads..)
[..]
> if zsync would be taught to handle .deb files as it does .gz files, and
> a meth
Scripsit Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 4. User selects the "No, I'm happy with my own version as it look
>> now" menu option.
>> Your proposal, if I understand you correctly, is to make (4) result in
>> the postinst failing even though the
On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 12:41:09PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote:
> So, would anybody object if I set up a cronjob that emails the PTS
> whenever a (source) package propagates to, or is removed from, testing?
I won't so nobody'd object; but it's one of the things we agreed we
wanted at the Vancouve
On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 11:00:46AM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote:
> No it's not.
>
>RC bug, still in testing -> fixing this is very important, because
>it may hold up the testing migration of other packages.
>
>RC bug, not in testing -> fixing this only affects this one
>pa
Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 12:41:09PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote:
>> So, would anybody object if I set up a cronjob that emails the PTS
>> whenever a (source) package propagates to, or is removed from, testing?
>
> I won't so nobody'd object; but it's one of the things we ag
Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In the long run, the user-friendly solution is probably to offer (via
> a debconf question that defaults to 'yes') to automatically rewrite
> the conffile to take the change into account.
That can only be done if we change our policy with respect to m
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Steffen Joeris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I think the lib is needed by some kde applications.
The Kalzium developer told me that this lib is needed
during the build of Kalzium.
* Package name: libfacile-dev
Version : 1.1
Upstream Author : Copyrigh
Scripsit Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> So, would anybody object if I set up a cronjob that emails the PTS
> whenever a (source) package propagates to, or is removed from, testing?
It turns out that PTS mail does not ordinary get sent to the
maintainer address, only to third-party subscrib
Op di, 01-11-2005 te 18:21 +0100, schreef Henning Makholm:
> Scripsit Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > So, would anybody object if I set up a cronjob that emails the PTS
> > whenever a (source) package propagates to, or is removed from, testing?
>
> It turns out that PTS mail does not or
Marc Haber wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 16:34:49 +0100, Stig Sandbeck Mathisen
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>On Oct 30, 2005, at 10:52, Marc Haber wrote:
>>> I can confirm that master sits on some messages for days, such as this
>>> one, for example:
>>> |Received: from master.debian.org ([146.82
Peter Samuelson wrote:
>
> [Daniel Ruoso]
>> > The question is: Is there a way (I mean, already implemented) to sort
>> > the packages putting the most used and less dependencies on the front
>> > and showing wich packages needs to be installed before the build can
>> > start?
>
> [Goswin von
Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 09:27:06AM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote:
>> Scripsit Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>> > No, it's a bug in dpkg-dev, which should know how to set
>> > ${Source-Version} correctly for binNMUs.
I'm not clear which file actually puts this substit
Steve Langasek wrote:
> Sorry, you're completely wrong. The files installed in
> /usr/lib/debug/usr/lib are detached symbol files, that are loaded
> automatically by gdb -- *not* using LD_LIBRARY_PATH; and gdb looks for
> detached symbol files by prepending /usr/lib/debug to the full path of the
On Sun, Jul 31, 2005 at 07:00:37PM +0200, Per Olofsson wrote:
> retitle 319583 ITP: pcmciautils -- PCMCIA userspace utilities (Linux 2.6.13+)
> thanks
>
> I'm the maintainer of pcmcia-cs so I'm intending to package
> pcmciautils.
May I ask for the status of this ITP?
Greetings
Marc
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On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 02:12:04PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote:
> Steve Langasek wrote:
>
> > Sorry, you're completely wrong. The files installed in
> > /usr/lib/debug/usr/lib are detached symbol files, that are loaded
> > automatically by gdb -- *not* using LD_LIBRARY_PATH; and gdb looks for
>
Nathanael Nerode wrote:
>>>Scripsit Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
No, it's a bug in dpkg-dev, which should know how to set
${Source-Version} correctly for binNMUs.
> I'm not clear which file actually puts this substitution in substvars; I
> tried to track it down but couldn't find it.
Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 31, 2005 at 02:54:49PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote:
>> The enormous ABI transitions have been particularly hard, of course. If
>> we can avoid ABI-breaking transitions in the future it would help. :-)
>
> Wholly unrealistic. Libraries *do* undergo ABI chan
Henning Makholm wrote:
> Well, the build-dependencies became fixed about 4 days ago (courtesy
> of a NMU by yours truly). Is 4 days enough to get something removed
> from testing?
Well, if you're curious, in this case autotrace had to be removed because
pstoedit had to be removed, and pstoedit had
Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> My proposal to avoid such problem is to implement multilevel
> configuration, where the package default configuration and the local
> overrides are stored in separate files, making sure local
> configuration do not affect changes to the package default, and thus
> no q
hey,
Someone sent an email I dunno if here or in evolution-hackers ML but I also
lost All my contacts after upgrading yesterday in Sid! ;0(
;-(
.Alejandro
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On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 11:14:59AM +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> Also, sticking all the tens of lines of boilerplate code into the
> postinst of every package that needs a system user is a good way to
> invite trouble. When the boilerplate has a bug (possibly because things
> change in the future)
On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 11:14:59AM +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> ma, 2005-10-31 kello 22:03 +0100, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
> kirjoitti:
> > After the feedback of the recent d-d thread, I've adapted the section I
> > wrote
> > on the best practices related to system users and groups, it is
On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 11:10:19AM +0100, Olaf van der Spek wrote:
> ma, 2005-10-31 kello 22:03 +0100, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
> kirjoitti:
> > I would like developers to review and provide feedback for that section,
> > specially in form of patches. I'm considering doing a bug hunt for:
>
On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 04:53:33AM -0500, sean finney wrote:
> hi javier,
>
> On Mon, Oct 31, 2005 at 10:03:01PM +0100, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
> wrote:
> > I would like developers to review and provide feedback for that section,
>
> thanks for actually putting this into a document, howev
On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 12:14:58PM +0100, Jonas Meurer wrote:
> On 31/10/2005 Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:
> > After the feedback of the recent d-d thread, I've adapted the section I
> > wrote
> > on the best practices related to system users and groups, it is currently
> > available at:
* Anthony Towns (aj@azure.humbug.org.au) [051101 17:23]:
> On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 12:41:09PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote:
> > So, would anybody object if I set up a cronjob that emails the PTS
> > whenever a (source) package propagates to, or is removed from, testing?
> I won't so nobody'd obje
Package: bugs.debian.org
Severity: minor
Today bugs.debian.org had some problem in receiving mails to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
timely. For example, in a discussion I started on #222138, mails reached
b.d.o in a non-causal order, making the bug report difficult to follow
on the web page.
Conversely, read
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Arjan Oosting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* Package name: frown
Version : 0.6
Upstream Author : Ralf Hinze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://www.informatik.uni-bonn.de/~ralf/frown/index.html
* License : GPL version 2
Descripti
Nexenta OS: Debian based GNU/Solaris
==
This is to announce Nexenta: the first-ever distribution that combines GNU and
OpenSolaris. As you might know, Sun Microsystems just opened Solaris kernel
under
CDDL license, which allows one to build custom Operating Systems. Which
On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 06:21:45PM -0800, Alex Ross wrote:
> 2) 2,300 Debian packages available for immediate usage.
[...]
> There are probably very few projects that can come anywhere close to
> Nexenta OS,
> in terms of the size,
2300 << 15000, by my reckoning.
> and openness.
You keep usin
Matthew Palmer wrote:
On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 06:21:45PM -0800, Alex Ross wrote:
words about yourself. We'll respond with a user/password.
Not to poop on your parade, but please, next time you go to announce
something to a technical list like d-devel -- drop the marketing guff, just
s
On Wed, 2005-11-02 at 14:24 +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 06:21:45PM -0800, Alex Ross wrote:
> > 2) 2,300 Debian packages available for immediate usage.
>
> [...]
>
> > There are probably very few projects that can come anywhere close to
> > Nexenta OS,
> > in terms of t
On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 09:07:08PM -0800, Erast Benson wrote:
> On Wed, 2005-11-02 at 14:24 +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 06:21:45PM -0800, Alex Ross wrote:
> > > 2) 2,300 Debian packages available for immediate usage.
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > There are probably very few
On Tue, 1 Nov 2005, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
Well, I'd expect meta packages to have nothing on them
Why? Was there any other definition than the link I posted that leads to
this assumption?
Kind regards
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On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 02:49:27PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote:
> (Hmm, I wish there was a way there to pay him to change the priorities
> -- what britney needs most is proper version tracking support for its RC bug
> analysis, and I'd give some money for that; that's not listed in the notes
> fo
On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 09:32:49PM -0700, Alejandro Bonilla Beeche wrote:
> I don't know if Alex works for Sun, but in anyway, he has the freedom
> and option to express himself as he wishes. Your comments, only bring FUD.
So I do *not* have the freedom and option to express myself as I wish?
Int
On Wed, 2005-11-02 at 17:16 +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 09:07:08PM -0800, Erast Benson wrote:
> > On Wed, 2005-11-02 at 14:24 +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote:
> > > On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 06:21:45PM -0800, Alex Ross wrote:
> > > > 2) 2,300 Debian packages available for immed
Matthew Palmer wrote:
I'm not discounting that it's new and exciting (I wouldn't say "totally", but
that's a matter of opinion), and I'm in fact quite interested in what the
technical benefits of running Debian on a Solaris kernel might be for my
needs. However, Alex did specifically claim tha
> Usermod is only called if the user does not exist and the package creates
> it. gdm, postgresql and logcheck already do this. In the example code,
> if the system user exists, then usermod is not called, which is better than
> what logcheck or postgresl currently do.
One very short notice for i
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