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On 15/07/05, Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 11:11:49AM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
> > * Anand Kumria:
> >
> > > [1]: > > http://smh.com.au/news/breaking/debian-debates-support-for-ports/2005/07/12/1120934228145.html>
> >
> > Apparently, this is subscription o
Hi,
* Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-07-15 10:50]:
> On Thu, Jul 14, 2005 at 11:21:52AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> > * Mattia Dongili
> >
> > | - setting the CPUFreq policy must be done as early as possible in the
> > | boot process (IMHO)
> >
> > Why? This looks just like an
Hi,
Thanks for the comments.
> Ideally there needs to be either
>
> * a login environment where changes are saved AND/OR
>
> * a hook that gets executed for an update operation, *before* apt-get
> is called.
Luckily, since pbuilder 0.118 which was released 31 Oct 2004,
there is a --save-aft
Hi,
> The aspell dictionary packages build-depend on aspell-bin (>> 0.60).
> aspell-bin is now a virtual package provided by aspell, but virtual
> packages cannot be versioned, so these build-dependency cannot be
> satisfied.
>
> There are fifteen such packages:
I'd see a benefit in filing mail
Hi,
> > BTW, having Build-Depends: libfoo-dev in
> > a library's build-deps, will allow the developer
> > to overlook a soname change in depending shared library.
> > Which is a bad idea in the QA standpoint.
>
> Yes and no.
>
> The programer can overlook the soname change for the source. The A
Hi,
Thanks for your input.
> > Having a solid naming scheme will allow me to
> >
> > ldd /usr/lib/libwhatever.so to track down its
> > shared library dependency, and appending "-dev"
> > to individual package to create the list of
> > requisite -dev packages.
>
> If this is actually necessa
Hi,
> > Having a solid naming scheme will allow me to
> >
> > ldd /usr/lib/libwhatever.so to track down its
> > shared library dependency, and appending "-dev"
> > to individual package to create the list of
> > requisite -dev packages.
>
> With the current scheme it is:
>
> ldd /usr/lib/libwh
On Fri, July 15, 2005 02:36, Laszlo Boszormenyi wrote:
> Debian _Developer_. You can translate documents, submit then against
> the package as patch for example. You can even join to the translation
> teams.
You claim that if someone spends just as much time translating Debian as
someone else doe
On Thu, Jul 14, 2005 at 11:21:52AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> * Mattia Dongili
>
> | - setting the CPUFreq policy must be done as early as possible in the
> | boot process (IMHO)
>
> Why? This looks just like an opinion without any rationale.
Sorry. The main idea is making power managem
On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 09:36:47AM +0300, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Junichi Uekawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.07.14.1416 +0300]:
> > libfoobar-2.1-0 will have
> > libfoobar-2.1-0-dev.
>
> Please distinguish between API and ABI!
>
True. Indeed the proposed policy is already followed in
* Junichi Uekawa ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > BTW, having Build-Depends: libfoo-dev in
> > > a library's build-deps, will allow the developer
> > > to overlook a soname change in depending shared library.
> > > Which is a bad idea in the QA standpoint.
> >
> > Yes and no.
> >
> > The program
* Junichi Uekawa ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > If this is actually necessary for libtool-using packages, then write
> > something which goes through all of the .la files and does this, since
> > that's what libtool wants to do.
>
> and
>
> > Errr, you still havn't said what problem you're tryin
* Francesco P. Lovergine ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 09:36:47AM +0300, martin f krafft wrote:
> > also sprach Junichi Uekawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.07.14.1416 +0300]:
> > > libfoobar-2.1-0 will have
> > > libfoobar-2.1-0-dev.
> >
> > Please distinguish between API and
On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 08:12:36PM +1200, Nigel Jones wrote:
> On 15/07/05, Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 11:11:49AM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
> > > * Anand Kumria:
> > >
> > > > [1]: > > > http://smh.com.au/news/breaking/debian-debates-support-for-ports/
On Thu, Jul 14, 2005 at 04:34:05PM -0700, Matt Kraai wrote:
> Howdy,
>
> The aspell dictionary packages build-depend on aspell-bin (>> 0.60).
> aspell-bin is now a virtual package provided by aspell, but virtual
> packages cannot be versioned, so these build-dependency cannot be
> satisfied.
That
On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 10:52:52AM +0200, Nico Golde wrote:
> Hi,
> * Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-07-15 10:50]:
> > On Thu, Jul 14, 2005 at 11:21:52AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> > > * Mattia Dongili
> > >
> > > | - setting the CPUFreq policy must be done as early as possible in
> The question is - how to process existing cross-compile environment,
> created by earlier versions of dpkg-cross.
>
> I am thinking to make the following trick. In postinst of new
> dpkg-cross, it will check for /usr/arm-linux, /usr/powerpc-linux/, and
> other places where packages created by ear
> - tree at old location may become inconsistent (if x depends on y,
> x-arch-cross is generated by new dpkg-cross, and y-arch-cross is
> generated by old dpkg-cross),
I meant 'y depends on x'.
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Junichi Uekawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi,
>
>> > BTW, having Build-Depends: libfoo-dev in
>> > a library's build-deps, will allow the developer
>> > to overlook a soname change in depending shared library.
>> > Which is a bad idea in the QA standpoint.
>>
>> Yes and no.
>>
>> The program
Junichi Uekawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi,
>
>> > Having a solid naming scheme will allow me to
>> >
>> > ldd /usr/lib/libwhatever.so to track down its
>> > shared library dependency, and appending "-dev"
>> > to individual package to create the list of
>> > requisite -dev packages.
You c
Hi,
is there a policy for bugs which are unreproducible?
I mean how long this kind of bug should be open?
There are bugs who are unreproducible for over a year and
the version increased to a major version during the time.
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> > > > libfoobar-2.1-0 will have
> > > > libfoobar-2.1-0-dev.
> > >
> > > Please distinguish between API and ABI!
> > >
> >
> > True. Indeed the proposed policy is already followed in case of ABI
> > changes. And any sane program would not compile when ever a library
> > change its _API_ in a
Hi,
Thanks for your time and feedback. I appreciate it very much.
> You could also suggest a policy for libs to have a libfoo.devname file
> similar to the libfoo.shlibs file but naming the needed -dev
> packages. If that is a good idea or not you have to think about. Just
> a wild idea.
Yes, t
On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 22:33 +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote:
> Currently people just package libwhatever-dev and break API whenever they
> please.
That's an upstream issue more or less. With libtoolised packages
-release has to be used if the API breaks in a non backwards-compatible
way. This would al
On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 10:44:04PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote:
> Stephen's points are valid and quite useful
> considering an upstream developer's point of view,
> but for random user joe who is trying to find a development
> package, one of the following may help him find the right package
>
>
Hi,
> is there a policy for bugs which are unreproducible?
> I mean how long this kind of bug should be open?
> There are bugs who are unreproducible for over a year and
> the version increased to a major version during the time.
I tend to request the user for more info with the new version;
so a
Hi,
* Junichi Uekawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-07-15 16:12]:
> > is there a policy for bugs which are unreproducible?
> > I mean how long this kind of bug should be open?
> > There are bugs who are unreproducible for over a year and
> > the version increased to a major version during the time.
>
>
#include
* Thijs Kinkhorst [Fri, Jul 15 2005, 12:27:55PM]:
> On Fri, July 15, 2005 02:36, Laszlo Boszormenyi wrote:
> > Debian _Developer_. You can translate documents, submit then against
> > the package as patch for example. You can even join to the translation
> > teams.
>
> You claim that if
* Junichi Uekawa ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > Exactly! :) We must have a seperate tracking of API and ABI changes.
> > To do otherwise is madness.
>
> Hmm... I don't think Debian -dev package and
> shared library packages really reflect what we consider to be
> ABI/API.
>
> Nothing documented
> Stephen's points are valid and quite useful
> considering an upstream developer's point of view,
> but for random user joe who is trying to find a development
> package, one of the following may help him find the right package
Joe user should do:
apt-cache search libNAME dev
(or use synaptic,
On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 05:18:23PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote:
> > > BTW, having Build-Depends: libfoo-dev in
> > > a library's build-deps, will allow the developer
> > > to overlook a soname change in depending shared library.
> > > Which is a bad idea in the QA standpoint.
> > Yes and no.
> >
On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 05:30:44PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote:
> > > Having a solid naming scheme will allow me to
> > > ldd /usr/lib/libwhatever.so to track down its
> > > shared library dependency, and appending "-dev"
> > > to individual package to create the list of
> > > requisite -dev pac
On Thursday 14 July 2005 04:29 pm, Greg Folkert wrote:
> But, I don't see the rendering problems others see. Of course I have an
When I first started up xorg after the upgrade, it took a full 100% of the
CPU. I restarted X, same deal...So I rebooted and started X, and the problem
disappeared. Si
On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 04:02:48PM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote:
> On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 22:33 +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote:
> > Currently people just package libwhatever-dev and break API whenever they
> > please.
> That's an upstream issue more or less. With libtoolised packages
> -release has to be
On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:42:44 +0200, Nico Golde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Hi, is there a policy for bugs which are unreproducible? I mean how
> long this kind of bug should be open? There are bugs who are
> unreproducible for over a year and the version increased to a major
> version during th
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Also congratulation from me too. I thought of many think that whould be
broken but only few packages I liked very much did not work anymore as
they need xlibmesa-glu:
xine
openuniverse
planetpenguin-racer
audacity
flightgear
ssystem
stellarium
xscreens
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> I will try to make a dummy-package which provides xlibmesa-glu and
> depends on libglu1-xorg. ;-)
Hmpf, dosn't work as libglu1-xorg conflicts xlibmesa-glu :-(
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On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 07:21:28PM +0200, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
> Also congratulation from me too. I thought of many think that whould be
> broken but only few packages I liked very much did not work anymore as
> they need xlibmesa-glu:
> xine
> openuniverse
> planetpenguin-racer
> audacity
> flightg
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:42:44 +0200, Nico Golde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
What's with the recent push to get every little things written
down into policy, so the developer no longer is required to have an
ability to think, or exercise any judgement whatsoever?
On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 07:21:28PM +0200, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
> Also congratulation from me too. I thought of many think that whould be
> broken but only few packages I liked very much did not work anymore as
> they need xlibmesa-glu:
> xine
> openuniverse
> planetpenguin-racer
> audacity
> flightg
I'm planning to start making sure every package which fails to build
with the current toolchain has an RC bug submitted against it. In
most cases, this should simply involve setting Andreas Jochens'
already existing bugs to serious, although I'll confirm each before
doing this. Exceptions will in
On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 10:59:21AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 07:21:28PM +0200, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
> > I will try to make a dummy-package which provides xlibmesa-glu and
> > depends on libglu1-xorg. ;-)
>
> Why do people think that xorg broke library dependencies for o
* Steve Langasek:
> Why do people think that xorg broke library dependencies for our
> entertainment, and that patching over the dependencies is an ok
> solution?
Because there was no recent announcement on debian-devel-announce
which provided some guidance for this transition?
The packaging its
Hi,
* Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-07-15 20:08]:
> On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:42:44 +0200, Nico Golde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> > Hi, is there a policy for bugs which are unreproducible? I mean how
> > long this kind of bug should be open? There are bugs who are
> > unreproducible
* David Nusinow:
> I'm mainly depressed that people aren't reading Planet Debian, or are just
> ignoring it. Is there a better place to post this sort of thing so that
> users don't keep repeating the same non-bug? The BTS obviously isn't
> working for us here either, nor is posting to debian-x.
On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 08:07:55PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Steve Langasek:
>
> > Why do people think that xorg broke library dependencies for our
> > entertainment, and that patching over the dependencies is an ok
> > solution?
>
> Because there was no recent announcement on debian-devel
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Hello foks,
Am Fr den 15. Jul 2005 um 19:32 schrieb David Nusinow:
> > I will try to make a dummy-package which provides xlibmesa-glu and
> > depends on libglu1-xorg. ;-)
>
> Please don't do this. We're trying to transition the libglu1-xorg packages
Hi,
Adduser is rapidly nearing its 10th birthday and has been maintained
by Roland Bauerschmidt since 2000. In 2004, I joined the adduser team,
and have done most of the work in adduser in the last year.
The code in adduser is old, non-modular, "spaghetti-like", in two
words: Needs rewriting. The
On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 08:11:15PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote:
> no of course not but it would be good to have a reference
> value.
it seems something that would be most appropriate as a guideline
supplied in the debian developers' reference.
sean
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On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 08:21:36PM +0200, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
> Am Fr den 15. Jul 2005 um 20:04 schrieb David Nusinow:
> > I'm mainly depressed that people aren't reading Planet Debian, or are just
>
> Aham, sorry for my ignorance, but what is Planet Debian?
http://planet.debian.org. Specifically
Hi,
* sean finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-07-15 20:43]:
> On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 08:11:15PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote:
> > no of course not but it would be good to have a reference
> > value.
>
> it seems something that would be most appropriate as a guideline
> supplied in the debian developers'
On 7/15/05, Manoj Srivastava va, manoj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What's with the recent push to get every little things written
> down into policy, so the developer no longer is required to have an
> ability to think, or exercise any judgement whatsoever?
Welcome to the software indus
On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 02:04:14PM -0400, David Nusinow wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 10:59:21AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 07:21:28PM +0200, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
> > > I will try to make a dummy-package which provides xlibmesa-glu and
> > > depends on libglu1-xorg.
On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 11:09:56 -0300, Humberto Massa Guimarães wrote:
> I am a fan of vi + file-rc myself, but... anyway, the packager
> should conflict this package with file-rc or depend on sysv-rc,
> whatever is better...
Currently it does both. I think that it should just Depend on
sysv-rc and
On 7/15/05, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 05:30:44PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote:
> > An alternate solution is to have a database for that kind of thing,
> > but I forsee that it requires effort to maintain and keep up-to-date.
>
> Like the database I just que
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On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 09:14 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> Not consistently. Indeed, I've never heard of such a practice; can you give
> an example?
Well in fact I saw quite some projects doing it that way and found it to
be the cleanest. gtk(mm) and glib(mm) come to my mind if I recall it
correc
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On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 11:00:08AM -0700, Daniel Schepler wrote:
> package transitioned, whichever is longer. Right now I have my eyes
> on jade/opensp/openjade, and possibly db*.
I have already NMUed opensp, but it is still in incoming because of the
new libosp4c2 package.
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> On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 10:59:21AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
[...]
>> Why do people think that xorg broke library dependencies for our
>> entertainment, and that patching over the dependencies is an ok solution?
>> The package name changed because it i
Aurelien Jarno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 11:00:08AM -0700, Daniel Schepler wrote:
>> package transitioned, whichever is longer. Right now I have my eyes
>> on jade/opensp/openjade, and possibly db*.
>
> I have already NMUed opensp, but it is still in incoming because o
On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 11:00 -0700, Daniel Schepler wrote:
> I might also do NMU's for some of the more important packages, with a
> delay of 2 days, or 5 days minus the time since the last dependent
> package transitioned, whichever is longer. Right now I have my eyes
> on jade/opensp/openjade, an
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On 15-Jul-05, 11:12 (CDT), Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What's with the recent push to get every little things written
> down into policy, so the developer no longer is required to have an
> ability to think, or exercise any judgement whatsoever?
Probably the growing n
"Michael K. Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On 7/15/05, Manoj Srivastava va, manoj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> What's with the recent push to get every little things written
>> down into policy, so the developer no longer is required to have an
>> ability to think, or exercise a
On 7/15/05, Rich Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Michael K. Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > On 7/15/05, Manoj Srivastava va, manoj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> What's with the recent push to get every little things written
> >> down into policy, so the developer no longer
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> On 7/15/05, Rich Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> "Michael K. Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> > On 7/15/05, Manoj Srivastava va, manoj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> What's with the recent push to get every little things writ
On 7/15/05, Rich Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I am having a hard time reading this as anything but a non sequitur.
>
> Umm; it follows more from Manoj's comment than yours.
Ah. OK.
> > Personally, I prefer for a solution to be demonstrated to work, both
> > socially and technically, be
"Michael K. Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On 7/15/05, Rich Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > I am having a hard time reading this as anything but a non sequitur.
>>
>> Umm; it follows more from Manoj's comment than yours.
>
> Ah. OK.
Should have sent two postings :->
>
>> > Person
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> "Michael K. Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> On 7/15/05, Manoj Srivastava va, manoj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> What's with the recent push to get every little things written
>>> down into policy, so the develop
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On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 01:43:46 +0100, Rich Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> You scale an organisation, I understand, by removing the *need* for
> everyone in it to be a genius at everything it does.
> Hence the comment about the US army: "designed by genius to be run
> by sergeants".
A
On 7/15/05, Manoj Srivastava va, manoj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[cranky but funny stuff]
If there ever is a blackball commitee, Manoj of all people belongs on it. :-)
Cheers,
- Michael
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