Hi Tollef,
Sorry for the high response latency.
* Tollef Fog Heen wrote on Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 09:45:03PM CEST:
> * Ralf Wildenhues
>
> | I would be much happier if someone with time would just help to put
> | this into libtool properly as an option (and possible adjust pkg-config,
> | FWIW).
On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 01:22:06AM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 06:24:51AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > The nice thing about 3:1 majorities is, that once you've tricked
> > something as "Editorial amendments" into it, a 25% minority is enough to
> > block reverting it...
On Wednesday 20 April 2005 12:24 am, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> In GR2004-004, Proposal D to revert GR2004-003 did get a 2.3:1 majority
> by the developers over the proposal to keep the changes of GR2004-003.
> That's a pretty clear statement.
Adrian,
I believe that you are misrepresenting the outc
On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 09:39:23AM -0400, Daniel Burrows wrote:
>
> Adrian,
>
> I believe that you are misrepresenting the outcome of -004. The proposal
> to
> postpone the changes till after the release, then reinstate them, defeated
> option D (rescind -003) by a 2:1 majority. The onl
On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 06:24:51 +0200, Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 11:52:19PM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote:
>> ... (GR2004-004 didn't make any sense at all, nor does it make any
>> sense that Sarge can ship with non-free documentation, and at the
>> time I found th
Le mercredi 20 avril 2005 à 05:06 +0200, Adrian Bunk a écrit :
> I've heard three different stories describing this GR:
> 1. it contained only Editorial amendments and didn't change anything
> 2. the Debian developers decided in this GR that documentation has to
>fulfill the full DFSG guideline
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005, John Goerzen wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm going through the list of packages I'm maintainer for, and found
> several that I no longer use. Some I've tried to give away long ago,
> but for whatever reason, never were picked up. I've submitted orphaned
> versions of all of these and
Glenn Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And Debian has tried to work on reducing the impact, by trying
> to convince the FSF to fix their license. Not only have they
> not done so, they've completely stonewalled, refusing to discuss
> the issue at all. Debian has done more than its part in tr
Le mercredi 20 avril 2005 à 16:10 +0200, Adrian Bunk a écrit :
> Could anyone give a definitive answer to the following questions:
> - Did -003 contain real changes [1] or didn't it change anything?
It didn't change anything.
> - How is it possible to happen that only a small amount of the Debian
Wow, a civil discussion. I'll see if I can keep it up.
On Wednesday 20 April 2005 10:10 am, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> Could anyone give a definitive answer to the following questions:
> - Did -003 contain real changes [1] or didn't it change anything?
That basically depends on who you ask and on
On 20-Apr-05, 09:34 (CDT), Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Glenn Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > And Debian has tried to work on reducing the impact, by trying
> > to convince the FSF to fix their license. Not only have they
> > not done so, they've completely stonewalled, ref
Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 09:39:23AM -0400, Daniel Burrows wrote:
>> D defeated by a 2.3:1 majority are option F (do nothing at all) and
>> Further Discussion, which all the voters had been told would result in
>> a further delay of the Sarge release.
> A 2
Carlos C Soto wrote:
Great!
I use this module and wold be great to have it on debian.
I was thinking on put a RFP bug for it.
-- Carlos C Soto :: eclipxe
I agree. I just built it again today against 2.6.11-1-686-smp (after
using it for several months against 2.6.10-1-686-smp).
I talked to the dev
On Thu, Apr 14, 2005 at 12:43:44PM +0200, Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo wrote:
> > It would be great, if you package pystatgrab
> > (http://www.i-scream.org/pystatgrab/) as well.
>
> I'm packaging libstatgrab only because pystatgrab needs it ;)
If someone is interested in new packages they're availabl
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* Package name: pilotqof
Version : 0.0.3
Upstream Author : Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/pilot-qof/
* License : GPL
Description : query P
Robert McQueen wrote:
Tamas SZERB wrote:
once upon a time, I closed this bug. then the submitter reopened it,
so currently I don't give it a f*ck. Our opinion are different, so if
you feel any ambition to get the both sides together, feel free to
volunteer. :)
This package's violation of Debian po
Adam M wrote:
Why? Why is there RHEL 2.0, 3.0.. Why not just RHEL 2005-01-01,
2005-01-02, etc..?
Because redhat makes money selling releases.
> The releases are there to provide interface stability. Everyone does
this.
Everyone being other distributions? I disagree. How many Fortune 500
custome
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On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 01:40:14PM -0700, Jeff Carr wrote:
> Robert McQueen wrote:
> >Tamas SZERB wrote:
> >>once upon a time, I closed this bug. then the submitter reopened it,
> >>so currently I don't give it a f*ck. Our opinion are different, so if
> >>you feel any ambition to get the both side
Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And now you say it's *still* going on?
Yes. For various reasons, I'm more hopeful now than I have been
previously.
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On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 02:06:12PM -0700, Jeff Carr wrote:
> Adam M wrote:
>
> >Why? Why is there RHEL 2.0, 3.0.. Why not just RHEL 2005-01-01,
> >2005-01-02, etc..?
>
> Because redhat makes money selling releases.
>
> > The releases are there to provide interface stability. Everyone does
> th
Adrian Bunk wrote:
There are at least three different comparisons:
Debian sid is comparable to e.g. RedHat Fedora or Gentoo (which of these
three is best is a different discussion).
Debian sid is for experienced computer users who always want the latest
software and who can live with a bug here
bonjour
connaissant debian depuis peu je souhaiterai contribuer à ce projet
grace à des traductions d'anglais vers le francais et tout
particulierement en ce quiconcerne la desription des paquets ;
malheureusement les FAQ semblent obseletes
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2001/01/msg02162.ht
Steve Langasek wrote:
4) the package itself is not the right name
4) is an approximation, but not actually a correct description (it's the
same incorrect approximation used by Policy itself). The problem is that
the package name is not being changed when the library soname changes, which
means tha
> Isn't the process:
>
> 1) make a patch
> 2) give it to the apache developers
> 3) new packaged apache versions have the patch
> 4) patch makes it upstream
> 5) patch no longer needed in debian package
You know, there are security updates for stable releases. You have to
patch those. If there ar
On Tuesday 08 March 2005 10:46, David Härdeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> o Especially on laptops, it might be interesting to also encrypt all of
> /home and/or other parts of the harddrive to make the data unusuable
> without the USB key. But how to integrate this with the other
> requirem
On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 03:18:52PM -0700, Jeff Carr wrote:
> Adrian Bunk wrote:
>...
> >Debian stable is comparable to the enterprise products of e.g. RedHat or
> >SuSE.
> >
> >These distributions are usually installed on servers that are installed
> >and intensively tested once. Security fixes a
Adam M wrote:
? I guess I don't understand enough about how the build process works
for the packages in debian but that sounds funny to me. Or I just don't
understand what you mean.
To build security patches, you need the same libraries, compilers,
etc... for the release so the built package has t
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jeff Carr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Why not let people choose what they want to use "woody" "sarge" or "sid"
>and never change the names again. I think lots of people are happy with
>how things work now. No need to ever do a release again. Just remove the
>old/
Adrian Bunk wrote:
Let me ask some questions:
- How many thousand people can't continue working if the server isn't
available?
- How many million dollar does the customer lose every day the server is
not available?
- How many days without this server does it take until the company is
bankrupt
Jeff Carr wrote:
I
agree. I just built it again today against 2.6.11-1-686-smp (after
using it for several months against 2.6.10-1-686-smp).
I do not use the debian kernel, i always use the tarball from
kernel.org, just because i like this way.
I
talked to the developer about getting it in
Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> You say you've deployed Debian sarge and sid in server environments
> (even sarge, although months old security fixes might be missing???).
Sure. Frankly, sarge has better security support than we ever got from
Sun for commercial versions of Solaris. D
On Wed, 20 Apr 2005, Carlos C Soto wrote:
Jeff Carr wrote:
[skipped]
I agree, the better is to put it as a kernel-patch.
Unfortunetly I have zero experience hacking the kernel or modules, just
compiling and using it.
If it just compiles separate modules, there is really no need to include
it as a
Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
If almost everyone you know is a desktop user,
Most everyone I know is an engineer :)
then I can see your
point. But no-one sane running production server systems is going
to run sid.
Well, I'd say no-one sane is running an unqualified/untested
distribution. It doesn
On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 04:23:02PM -0700, Jeff Carr wrote:
> Adrian Bunk wrote:
>
> >Let me ask some questions:
> >- How many thousand people can't continue working if the server isn't
> > available?
> >- How many million dollar does the customer lose every day the server is
> > not available?
>
Jurij Smakov wrote:
Since it is becoming more and more a kernel topic, you might also want
to move discussion to debian-kernel.
Could someone give us a simple rundown of how we would submit a patch to
the debian kernel sources to add spca5xx support? The spca5xx driver
adds support for a large n
On 4/20/05, Jeff Carr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Adam M wrote:
>
> >>? I guess I don't understand enough about how the build process works
> >>for the packages in debian but that sounds funny to me. Or I just don't
> >>understand what you mean.
> >
> >
> > To build security patches, you need the
On Wednesday 30 March 2005 09:56 am, Daniel Burrows wrote:
> We can also extend the description format in backwards-compatible ways.
> So, while a proper markup language would be nice, that doesn't preclude
> fixing the bullet problem, albeit in a slightly hacky way, NOW. What about
> this:
Resume in english: Sebastien Mazzucco want to contribute to the
traduction of some debian thing to french, And I tell him he should go
and ask on debian-devel-french or debian-l10n-french
sebastien mazzucco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> bonjour
Bonjour,
En premier lieux, je voulais te signaler
Quoting sebastien mazzucco ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> bonjour
>
> connaissant debian depuis peu je souhaiterai contribuer à ce projet
> grace à des traductions d'anglais vers le francais et tout
> particulierement en ce quiconcerne la desription des paquets ;
> malheureusement les FAQ semblent obsele
On Sun, 2005-04-17 at 18:50 -0500, Carlos C Soto wrote:
> Gcolor2 is a simple GTK2 color selector to provide a quick and easy
> way to find colors for whatever task is at hand.
> Colors can be saved and deleted as well.
>
> This is a very useful tool for every one who work with colours and
> desig
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