Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-02-25 Thread giskard
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 19:40:35 -0500 Glenn Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > * Why the "--disable-aa" ? > > Ok caca is better than aa but it's not enabled either. > > libaa, the ASCII art library? I'd hope that'd be disabled in the > normal build. It's a useless novelty; I certain

Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-02-25 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Feb 25, giskard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > many people who I know, especially artists who use free software, often > use the reproduction in ascii art (new kind of art). The artists you know are not many people and they are not representative of the user base in any way. -- ciao, Marco si

Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-02-25 Thread Petri Latvala
On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 10:36:21AM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Feb 25, giskard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > many people who I know, especially artists who use free software, often > > use the reproduction in ascii art (new kind of art). > The artists you know are not many people and they a

Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-02-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2005-02-25 at 10:36 +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Feb 25, giskard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > many people who I know, especially artists who use free software, often > > use the reproduction in ascii art (new kind of art). > The artists you know are not many people and they are not

Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-02-25 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Ron Johnson] > "I just don't understand how Reagan got elected. No one I know > voted for him!" > > In other words, just because *you* don't know anyone who uses AA, > that doesn't mean that a decent number of people *do* use AA. You are absolutely right. :) But there is always a chance of som

Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-02-25 Thread giskard
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 10:36:21 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) wrote: > On Feb 25, giskard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > many people who I know, especially artists who use free software, > > often use the reproduction in ascii art (new kind of art). > The artists you know are not many pe

Bug#296873: ITP: jackbeat -- a drummachine-like audio sequencer with JACK support

2005-02-25 Thread Guillaume Pellerin
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Guillaume Pellerin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: jackbeat Version : 0.3.3 Upstream Author : Olivier Guilyardi * URL : http://www.xung.org/jackbeat/ * License : GPL Description : a drummachine-like audio sequen

Re: the ongoing xfree86 buildd saga

2005-02-25 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> I don't think it would hurt if maintainers whose packages are in this state >> would email the relevant @buildd.debian.org addresses and cc: >> debian-release on the message -- now, rather than waitin

Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-02-25 Thread giskard
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 12:38:39 +0200 Petri Latvala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 10:36:21AM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > On Feb 25, giskard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > many people who I know, especially artists who use free software, > > > often use the reproductio

Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-02-25 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * giskard [Fri, Feb 25 2005, 01:22:18PM]: > > Those who want to use the aa backend can use -vo sdl:aa if > > libsdl1.2debian-all is installed (and the mplayer package is compiled > > with sdl support). > > [13:11:3Size: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ apt-cache show > libsdl1.2debian-all > Depend

Re: Tips wanted for debugging and testing Debian

2005-02-25 Thread Steve Kemp
On Thu, Feb 24, 2005 at 09:39:51PM +0100, Michael Tautschnig wrote: > >You can browse our bug database at . A good way > >to start is to search for any bugs in software you regularly use, and to > >see if you can help out. > > > > But what could one do, if the maintainer d

Re: Tips wanted for debugging and testing Debian

2005-02-25 Thread Michael Tautschnig
If a bug is serious, and not a trivial thing, and if a patch has been filed then a NMU could be applied. But only a Debian developer can do so, right? When saying "trivial" - did you mean easy to fix or the priority of a bug (i.e., wishlist)? [...] Thanks, Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EM

Re: Tips wanted for debugging and testing Debian

2005-02-25 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 02:41:48PM +0100, Michael Tautschnig wrote: >> If a bug is serious, and not a trivial thing, and if a patch has >> been filed then a NMU could be applied. > But only a Debian developer can do so, right? You can have a sponsored NMU -- I did such a thing once. /* Steinar */

Re: Tips wanted for debugging and testing Debian

2005-02-25 Thread Steve Kemp
On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 02:41:48PM +0100, Michael Tautschnig wrote: > > If a bug is serious, and not a trivial thing, and if a patch has > >been filed then a NMU could be applied. > But only a Debian developer can do so, right? Usually, but I've sponsored NMU uploads by non-DDs before. > When

Re: svn.debian.org: Automatically putting log message into debian/changelog?

2005-02-25 Thread Torsten Landschoff
Hi Joey, On Thu, Feb 24, 2005 at 04:42:49PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > I've done this for years using the attached script (which will work with > both svn and cvs (less well), and can also tag releases). Thanks, that was exactly what I looking for. I already had scheduled some hacking for this. :

Re: Tips wanted for debugging and testing Debian

2005-02-25 Thread Michael Tautschnig
Usually, but I've sponsored NMU uploads by non-DDs before. Sounds interesting - how does that work? When saying "trivial" - did you mean easy to fix or the priority of a bug (i.e., wishlist)? I mean it should be a serious bug which is affecting real people but has gone unadressed. Not something

list of packages on private website

2005-02-25 Thread Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo
Hello. That's rather OT, but I wanted to target my question at developers, cause I suppose that's the only group which would be able to help me. I would like to put on my homepage list of packages that I maintain. I suppose that the easiest way would be to fetch this information from ldap datab

Re: list of packages on private website

2005-02-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo wrote: Hello. That's rather OT, but I wanted to target my question at developers, cause I suppose that's the only group which would be able to help me. I would like to put on my homepage list of packages that I maintain. I suppose that the easiest way would be to fetch this

Re: list of packages on private website

2005-02-25 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I would like to put on my homepage list of packages that I maintain. > I suppose that the easiest way would be to fetch this information from > ldap database. I don't want to reinvent the wheel, and I'm sure some of > you have already simi

Re: dh_movefiles, tar vs. mv

2005-02-25 Thread Frank Küster
Eric Dorland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > * Frank Küster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >> Hi, >> >> dh_movefiles internally uses tar to move file contents. I'm not sure why >> it doesn't use mv, is it because mv moves the file block-by-block and >> thus starts removing parts of the file before it

Automatic building of (parts of) the archive

2005-02-25 Thread Frank Küster
Hi, in order to test whether packages that build-depend on tetex can still be built with the upcoming version 3.0, I would like to automatically build as many of these packages. I know where I can read about setting up a buildd, but two questions remain: - are there any scripts that hand over th

Re: dh_movefiles, tar vs. mv

2005-02-25 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Friday 25 February 2005 12:36 pm, Frank Küster wrote: > Well, fine. But the question remains: dh_install uses cp, not mv.  What > is the problem with using mv?  And would it be safe to use mv if I only > move complete directories? I'd imagine that it doesn't use mv for the same reason "instal

Re: dh_movefiles, tar vs. mv

2005-02-25 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Daniel Burrows in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I'd imagine that it doesn't use mv for the same reason "install" doesn't; > ie, its purpose is to COPY files, not MOVE them. As I understood it, the question was about moving stuff from debian/tmp to debian/package. The stuff in debian/tmp should get

Re: dh_movefiles, tar vs. mv

2005-02-25 Thread Eric Dorland
* Frank Küster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Eric Dorland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > > * Frank Küster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> dh_movefiles internally uses tar to move file contents. I'm not sure why > >> it doesn't use mv, is it because mv moves the file block-by-block

Re: dh_movefiles, tar vs. mv

2005-02-25 Thread Frank Küster
Christoph Berg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > Re: Daniel Burrows in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> I'd imagine that it doesn't use mv for the same reason "install" doesn't; >> ie, its purpose is to COPY files, not MOVE them. > > As I understood it, the question was about moving stuff from > debian/tmp

Re: dh_movefiles, tar vs. mv

2005-02-25 Thread Frank Küster
Eric Dorland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Frank Küster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >> >> Well, fine. But the question remains: dh_install uses cp, not mv. What >> is the problem with using mv? And would it be safe to use mv if I only >> move complete directories? > > Well one reason is sometim

Re: Tips wanted for debugging and testing Debian

2005-02-25 Thread Nico Golde
Hello Sascha, * Sascha Berkenkamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-02-25 13:45]: > I want to help the debian team and I also read debian.org/devel ! So I > think I would like to help testing and debugging the debian system in > order to help to fix some bugs in some programs or debian sepcific > stuff.

Re: dh_movefiles, tar vs. mv

2005-02-25 Thread GOMBAS Gabor
On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 01:14:00PM -0500, Daniel Burrows wrote: > Anyway, I thought you were joking in your first message, but it looks like > you're serious, so I'll answer this time. If you're copying between files on > the same device, mv will use the rename(2) system call, which is an ato

Re: dh_movefiles, tar vs. mv

2005-02-25 Thread GOMBAS Gabor
On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 07:54:27PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: > Correct. So, why not use mv? Add a new "--move" flag to dh_installfiles, come up with some exact numbers showing the build time/disk usage savings for your favorite Big Package (hard numbers usually very helpful for promoting new fea

Re: dh_movefiles, tar vs. mv

2005-02-25 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 07:54:27PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: > Christoph Berg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > Re: Daniel Burrows in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> I'd imagine that it doesn't use mv for the same reason "install" > >> doesn't; > >> ie, its purpose is to COPY files, not MOVE them. > >

Re: dh_movefiles, tar vs. mv

2005-02-25 Thread Oliver Kurth
On Fri, 2005-02-25 at 20:25 +0100, GOMBAS Gabor wrote: > On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 07:54:27PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: > > > Correct. So, why not use mv? > > Add a new "--move" flag to dh_installfiles, come up with some exact > numbers showing the build time/disk usage savings for your favorite B

Re: dh_movefiles, tar vs. mv

2005-02-25 Thread Frank Küster
Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 07:54:27PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: >> Christoph Berg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: >> > Re: Daniel Burrows in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> I'd imagine that it doesn't use mv for the same reason "install" >> >> doesn't; >> >> ie

Re: dh_movefiles, tar vs. mv

2005-02-25 Thread Joey Hess
Frank Küster wrote: > Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > > On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 07:54:27PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: > >> Christoph Berg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > >> > Re: Daniel Burrows in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> I'd imagine that it doesn't use mv for the same reason "in

dpkg: config file `foo' is a circular link

2005-02-25 Thread Frank Küster
Hi, the third thread I start or continue today. Should go home instead. On a not-yet uploaded package, when upgrading from the version in sid, I get these error messages: Setting up tetex-base (3.0-0.4) ... dpkg: tetex-base: warning - config file `/etc/texmf/platex/language.dat' is a circular l

Any reason why I'm not CCed by bugs of my packages?

2005-02-25 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, I have an open bug against dict-wn ~> apt-cache show dict-wn | grep Maint Maintainer: Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> but got no mail notification about #296197 - just have seen it via web interface. Any idea what went wrong here. (If I'm not absolutely wrong this is not the first cas

Re: dh_movefiles, tar vs. mv

2005-02-25 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 08:59:00PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: > Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 07:54:27PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: > >> Christoph Berg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > >> > Re: Daniel Burrows in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> I'd imagine that it

Re: Any reason why I'm not CCed by bugs of my packages?

2005-02-25 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 09:31:00PM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: > I have an open bug against dict-wn >~> apt-cache show dict-wn | grep Maint >Maintainer: Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > but got no mail notification about #296197 - just have seen it via > web interface. Any idea what w

Re: list of packages on private website

2005-02-25 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hello. > > That's rather OT, but I wanted to target my question at developers, cause > I suppose that's the only group which would be able to help me. > > I would like to put on my homepage list of packages that I maintain. > I suppose that t

Re: Automatic building of (parts of) the archive

2005-02-25 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, > > in order to test whether packages that build-depend on tetex can still > be built with the upcoming version 3.0, I would like to automatically > build as many of these packages. I know where I can read about setting > up a buildd, but two questio

Re: Automatic building of (parts of) the archive

2005-02-25 Thread David Schmitt
On Friday 25 February 2005 18:43, Frank Küster wrote: > in order to test whether packages that build-depend on tetex can still > be built with the upcoming version 3.0, I would like to automatically > build as many of these packages. Take a look at pbuilder. There are people recompiling the whole

Re: Any reason why I'm not CCed by bugs of my packages?

2005-02-25 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005, Steve Langasek wrote: ~> apt-cache show dict-wn | grep Maint Maintainer: Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> but got no mail notification about #296197 - just have seen it via web interface. Any idea what went wrong here. (If I'm not absolutely wrong this is not the firs

Re: Any reason why I'm not CCed by bugs of my packages?

2005-02-25 Thread John Hasler
Andreas Tille writes: > but got no mail notification about #296197 - just have seen it via web > interface. Any idea what went wrong here. (If I'm not absolutely wrong > this is not the first case for this package.) I have no idea what causes it but the same thing happens to me a couple of times

Updating config files: permissions!?

2005-02-25 Thread Torsten Landschoff
Hi *, During upgrades the slapd package (for example) has to do some adjustments on config files (it asks the user for permission of course). Problem: How do I make sure the new config files have the same permissions!? Currently I do chmod --reference=OLD NEW chown --reference=

procmail and Large File Support

2005-02-25 Thread Santiago Vila
Hello. I have several reports saying procmail does not support mbox folders larger than 2GB. Questions: * Am I right to think that adding -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 to CFLAGS should be enough to fix this, as explained by this URL?: http://www.suse.de/~aj/linux_lfs.html The version in experimental h

Re: Any reason why I'm not CCed by bugs of my packages?

2005-02-25 Thread Steve Greenland
On 25-Feb-05, 16:43 (CST), John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andreas Tille writes: > > but got no mail notification about #296197 - just have seen it via web > > interface. Any idea what went wrong here. (If I'm not absolutely wrong > > this is not the first case for this package.) > > I

Re: Package xxx has broken dep on yyy: normal?

2005-02-25 Thread Dan Jacobson
M> Dan Jacobson [12]wondered about the broken dependencies he notices M> every now and then. Colin Watson [13]answered that this is the M> problem that the testing distribution is intended to solve. Goswin M> Brederlow [14]explained that this is caused by strictly versioned M> dependencies to binar

Re: procmail and Large File Support

2005-02-25 Thread Steve Langasek
Hi Santiago, On Sat, Feb 26, 2005 at 12:53:40AM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: > I have several reports saying procmail does not support mbox folders > larger than 2GB. Questions: > * Am I right to think that adding -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 to CFLAGS > should be enough to fix this, as explained by thi

Re: Any reason why I'm not CCed by bugs of my packages?

2005-02-25 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Feb 25, John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have no idea what causes it but the same thing happens to me a couple of > times a year. Me too. I think that it happens more often, but I probably get way more bugs than you do. And no, my spam filters do not silently discard mail, ever. --

Re: Package xxx has broken dep on yyy: normal?

2005-02-25 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Feb 26, 2005 at 07:39:17AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: > M> Dan Jacobson [12]wondered about the broken dependencies he notices > M> every now and then. Colin Watson [13]answered that this is the > M> problem that the testing distribution is intended to solve. Goswin > M> Brederlow [14]explai

Re: procmail and Large File Support

2005-02-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sat, 2005-02-26 at 00:53 +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: > Hello. > > I have several reports saying procmail does not support mbox folders > larger than 2GB. Questions: OT here, but WTF are people smoking, to have 2GB mbox files? -- ---

splitting a source package into 2 source packages

2005-02-25 Thread sean finney
hi, i'm maintaining a source package that produces two binary packages. however, one of the packages is built from a seperately distributed (same author, same website, but different tarball and versioning scheme) tarball. so i'm thinking these two packages should be generated from their own resp