Re: RFC: graph of Debian package cycle

2005-02-13 Thread Kevin Mark
Hi Martin, On Sat, Feb 12, 2005 at 04:47:27PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > Based on the work of Kevin Mark (URL not available, sorry), I have http://kmark.home.pipeline.com/debian.png http://kmark.home.pipeline.com/debian.fig > made a graph of the life cycle of a Debian package for inclusion

Re: please post listing and status of NEW queue

2005-02-13 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Adeodato Simó] > That is, a diff of the list of binary packages. Perhaps, one could > colour red removed packages, and blue added ones. Be carefull with using only color coding. This make it harder for color blind and blind people to read the information. While we are on the feature wishlis

Re: please post listing and status of NEW queue

2005-02-13 Thread Thomas Hood
On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 18:59 -0600, David Moreno Garza wrote: > On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 22:52 +0100, Thomas Hood wrote: > > It would be nice if the page indicated which of the binary packages is new. > > The binary column indicates those created within the source package. > Every source package on th

Re: Bug#291945: eleventh-hour transition for mysql-using packages related to apache

2005-02-13 Thread Francesco Paolo Lovergine
On Sun, Feb 13, 2005 at 12:07:06PM +1100, Paul Hampson wrote: > > So what if we had two editions of libmysqlclient, one of them > > ssl-enabled and the other - as currently - not? That would allow > > using ssl whenever possible. I think that could be done, without > > breaking things. > > That's

Re: RFC: graph of Debian package cycle

2005-02-13 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sat, Feb 12, 2005 at 07:08:49PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > * martin f. krafft: > > > Based on the work of Kevin Mark (URL not available, sorry), I have > > made a graph of the life cycle of a Debian package for inclusion in > > my forthcoming book (http://debianbook.info). You can find the

Babelbox documentation is available

2005-02-13 Thread Christian Perrier
(reply to -devel unless answering on a topic more appropriate to one of the other lists) Several people have heard of my "Babelbox" demo machine which was featured for the first time at Solutions Linux expo in Paris. This demo machine is a Debian Installer demo which runs over and over, changing

Verify debian-devel@lists.debian.org for Francois.Mescam@onera.fr

2005-02-13 Thread Francois . Mescam
Bonjour, Votre message a bien été reçu, mais il ne m'a pas encore été délivré car je n'ai pas encore noté que vous m'envoyez des messages depuis cette adresse. J'ai besoin de vérifier que cette adresse vous correspond bien. Aussi je vous prie de bien vouloir faire "reply" sur ce message et me renv

Re: RFC: graph of Debian package cycle

2005-02-13 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.02.12.1908 +0100]: > Interesting, thanks. I believe the --->O arrays are confusingly > labled. "package installation" is probably a better choice. The > difference between "package propagation" and "package upload" is > not clear, at least to

Re: Bug#295006: debian-policy: Virtual package: change mp3-encoder with music-encoder

2005-02-13 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Feb 13, 2005 at 01:22:20AM +0200, Jesus Climent wrote: > Package: debian-policy > Version: 3.6.1.1 > Severity: wishlist > > Having no mp3 encoder in the archive, due to possible patent problems, i > believe it would be a wiser idea to have "music-encoder" as a virtual package > than "mp3-e

First line in /etc/hosts

2005-02-13 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
Current d-i writes the following line to the beginning of /etc/hosts: 127.0.0.1localhost.localdomain localhost Traditionally, this confuses some programs; at least pvm used to have problems with this, and I'm fairly sure cfengine2 doesn't like it either, so we've changed to 127.0.0.1

Re: First line in /etc/hosts

2005-02-13 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Feb 13, "Steinar H. Gunderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, one program has to be buggy here, but which? :-) The first ones. 127.0.0.1 IS localhost. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Moin 1.3.x: Status of the package moin

2005-02-13 Thread Raphael Bossek
Hi Jonas, I'm writing you again after my last email was not answered. I would like to help you out packaging moin 1.3.x. Could you please contact me on furter development of MoinMoin for Debian? If not I will start creating a NMU. -- Raphael Bossek pgpgVD86x0i5X.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: First line in /etc/hosts

2005-02-13 Thread Thomas Hood
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 13:30:11 +0100, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: > Current d-i writes the following line to the beginning of /etc/hosts: > >127.0.0.1localhost.localdomain localhost This is correct. > Traditionally, this confuses some programs; at least pvm used to have > problems with t

Re: First line in /etc/hosts

2005-02-13 Thread Mark Brown
On Sun, Feb 13, 2005 at 01:25:15PM +0100, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: > However, now we've suddenly discovered that _other_ programs get confused by > this! In particular, if you use an NFSv4-patched mount, it does a > gethostname() and resolves that, which returns 127.0.0.1, which in turn makes >

Re: volunteering to help development

2005-02-13 Thread Lars Wirzenius
to, 2005-02-10 kello 18:23 -0800, Frederico Rodrigues Abraham kirjoitti: > hi. i want to help developing for debian. > how should i proceed? > i have experience with computer graphics and mathematical tools > programming, but most interested in the computer graphics field, in > which i'

Re: debian-policy: Virtual package: change mp3-encoder with music-encoder

2005-02-13 Thread Lars Wirzenius
su, 2005-02-13 kello 01:22 +0200, Jesus Climent kirjoitti: > Having no mp3 encoder in the archive, due to possible patent problems, i > believe it would be a wiser idea to have "music-encoder" as a virtual package > than "mp3-encoder". Wouldn't it be necessary for this to work for all music encode

Re: First line in /etc/hosts

2005-02-13 Thread John Hasler
Mark Brown writes: > ...NIS needs to hand out the IP address of the machine... Machines don't have IP numbers. Interfaces have IP numbers. Every machine with one or more external interfaces has at least two: 127.0.0.1 for the loopback interface and one for each external interface. > Resolving t

runlevel and sequence point for gfs cluster infrastructure

2005-02-13 Thread Bastian Blank
Hi folks I currently try to get gfs and the cluster infrastructure into a usable state. One of the problems are the runlevel and sequence point settings for each step. The whole thing should start before the daemons, bus this will make it impossible to login into the system if the cluster is not q

Re: First line in /etc/hosts

2005-02-13 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > Resolving the hostname is a standard method for obtaining an IP address > for the machine And pretty broken in a lot of the cases :) It is much better to retrieve the local current IP address of the connection you are going to send the ip (if it is neede

Re: Verify debian-devel@lists.debian.org for Francois.Mescam@onera.fr

2005-02-13 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Sun, Feb 13, 2005 at 12:17:08PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Your message has been received, but it hasn't been delivered to me yet. Since > I > don't have any record of your sending me mail from this address before, I need > to verify that you're not a spammer. Please just hit 'Reply' and

Bug#295122: RFA: iproute -- Professional tools to control the networking in Linux kernels

2005-02-13 Thread Andreas Barth
Package: wnpp Hi, anyone who wants to work on iproute is greatly welcome, perhaps also as co-maintainer (and I'm also willing to sponsor people). The reason I intend to give the package away is that I'm not really the great networking guy, but I'll try to give the package a warm home till I can

Re: First line in /etc/hosts

2005-02-13 Thread Mark Brown
On Sun, Feb 13, 2005 at 11:21:09AM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Mark Brown writes: > > ...NIS needs to hand out the IP address of the machine... > Machines don't have IP numbers. Interfaces have IP numbers. Every machine Actually, that's not quite the case (as a number of users of Linux's ARP i

Re: First line in /etc/hosts

2005-02-13 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005, Mark Brown wrote: > On Sun, Feb 13, 2005 at 11:21:09AM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > > Mark Brown writes: > > > > ...NIS needs to hand out the IP address of the machine... > > > Machines don't have IP numbers. Interfaces have IP numbers. Every machine > > Actually, that's no

Re: please post listing and status of NEW queue

2005-02-13 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Petter Reinholdtsen [Sun, 13 Feb 2005 09:34:01 +0100]: > [Adeodato Simó] > > That is, a diff of the list of binary packages. Perhaps, one could > > colour red removed packages, and blue added ones. > Be carefull with using only color coding. This make it harder for > color blind and blind p

Bug#295127: ITP: dvbsnoop -- DVB / MPEG stream analyzer

2005-02-13 Thread Cedric Delfosse
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Cedric Delfosse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: dvbsnoop Version : 1.3.77 Upstream Author : Rainer Scherg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://dvbsnoop.sf.net * License : GPL Description : DVB / MPEG stream analyze

Re: mirror the Packages files _after_ the packages!

2005-02-13 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 09:51:44AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: > I know you Debian people think it's just hilarious when users try to > apt-get upgrade during the period after when the Packages files > arrive on the mirrors, but before the packages they describe have > fully arrived. > "Haw haw haw

Re: Xsession doesn't use umask setting from /etc/login.defs

2005-02-13 Thread Tomas Fasth
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alban browaeys skrev: | In october you told: | |> Searching Google for "xsession umask" will give you some hints. |> |> |> |>> /etc/login.defs explicitly indicates that it is |>> "Configuration control definitions for the login package", |>> and many of

Re: Bug#294491: RFA: povray -- Persistence of vision raytracer

2005-02-13 Thread Brian May
> "Brian" == Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: One question: Brian> I asked about this a while ago on debian-devel and was told Brian> (IIRC) that a major rewrite was happening in order to make Brian> Povray DFSG compliant. Brian> Is this still the case? Two answers: >>

Re: runlevel and sequence point for gfs cluster infrastructure

2005-02-13 Thread David Schmitt
On Sunday 13 February 2005 18:47, Bastian Blank wrote: > I currently try to get gfs and the cluster infrastructure into a usable > state. One of the problems are the runlevel and sequence point settings > for each step. Take a look at the NFS packages, while I'd venture that PCMCIA NICs are irre

Re: what is /.udev for ?

2005-02-13 Thread Brian May
> "Ron" == Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ron> Rules to live by: Ron> Look before you leap. Isn't the modern version: "Leap before you look..." (and then contact your lawyer[1]...) Ron> Measure twice, cut once. Cut twice, measure once. Ron> Google it! Loose it!

Re: Debian mirror scripts

2005-02-13 Thread Brian May
> "Goswin" == Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Goswin> zsync has the option of looking into gziped files and Goswin> rsync them as if they would be ungziped (while still just Goswin> downloading chunks of the gziped file). Its a bit more Goswin> complex algorith

Bug#295155: ITP: steam -- environment for cooperative knowledgemanagment

2005-02-13 Thread Alain Schroeder
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Alain Schroeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: steam Version : 1.5.12 Upstream Author : open sTeam-Team <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.open-steam.org/ * License : GPL Description : environment for cooper

Re: Bug#294491: RFA: povray -- Persistence of vision raytracer

2005-02-13 Thread Miles Bader
Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Curious; maybe the FAQ is wrong? It's been a while since I looked at it; maybe the maintainers, and thus attitudes, have changed (for the worse). Alternatively, perhaps the loudest mouths on the mailing list are not representative of the project's long-term

Старые кинопленки?

2005-02-13 Thread Microfiche E. Illicitness
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Bug#295171: ITP: libformatr-ruby -- perl-like formats for ruby

2005-02-13 Thread David Nusinow
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: David Nusinow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libformatr-ruby Version : 1.09 Upstream Author : Paul Rubel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://formatr.sourceforge.net/ * License : GPL or Ruby's other licensing terms (see

Re: Debian mirror scripts

2005-02-13 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> "Goswin" == Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Goswin> zsync has the option of looking into gziped files and > Goswin> rsync them as if they would be ungziped (while still just > Goswin> downloading chunks of the gziped fil

Re: Verify debianhttp://www.perrier.eu.org/debian/voices/-devel@lists.debian.org for Francois.Mescam@onera.fr

2005-02-13 Thread Christian Perrier
> Why do people think it's acceptable for their stupid anti-spam measures > to inconvenience others? I am indirectly responsible for M. Mescam message. He was BCC'ed to my original mail annoucing Babelbox documentation (I had my own reasons for the BCC). However, as I did setup the Reply-To fiel

Re: Verify debianhttp://www.perrier.eu.org/debian/voices/-devel@lists.debian.org for Francois.Mescam@onera.fr

2005-02-13 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 20050214T071408+0100, Christian Perrier wrote: > Debian address first, his automated greylisting system automatically > answered and did so using the Reply-To field. Then it is broken. Automatic mails should be sent to the envelope sender, unless explicitly asked otherwise. -- Antti-Juhani K