Which group to use for system users (adduser bug #290623)

2005-02-05 Thread Marc Haber
Hi, I am asking for discussion about bug #290623. The bug basically says that it is a bad idea to generate system accounts with primary group "nogroup", which I feel is a valid report. The bug report continues to suggest generating a dedicated group for each system account that has been generated

Re: Bug#292831: udev: udev prevents X from beeing started

2005-02-05 Thread Gaudenz Steinlin
On Sat, Feb 05, 2005 at 04:43:41AM +0100, Jérôme Warnier wrote: > Le lundi 31 janvier 2005 à 08:58 +, David Pashley a écrit : > > On Jan 31, 2005 at 04:46, Hamish Moffatt praised the llamas by saying: > > Surely the solution is for hotplug/discover to load it during bootup. > > Could hotplug us

Re: Bug#292831: udev: udev prevents X from beeing started

2005-02-05 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Jérôme Warnier | > Surely the solution is for hotplug/discover to load it during bootup. | > Could hotplug use mdetect? | | IIRC, mdetect does not support devfs, and devfs is still in use in the | installer, right? mdetect won't run during the first phase of the installation, so that's not a p

About valid and invalid user names

2005-02-05 Thread Marc Haber
Hi, adduser has two bug reports open where people are asking for user name rules to be relaxed. One report wants "." to be allowed in user names, another wants usernames to start with numbers. May I ask for your opinion before denying or following the requests? Greetings Marc -- --

Re: About valid and invalid user names

2005-02-05 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sat, Feb 05, 2005 at 01:38:36PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > Hi, > > adduser has two bug reports open where people are asking for user name > rules to be relaxed. One report wants "." to be allowed in user names, > another wants usernames to start with numbers. > > May I ask for your opinion bef

Re: About valid and invalid user names

2005-02-05 Thread Wim De Smet
On Sat, Feb 05, 2005 at 01:38:36PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > Hi, > > adduser has two bug reports open where people are asking for user name > rules to be relaxed. One report wants "." to be allowed in user names, > another wants usernames to start with numbers. > > May I ask for your opinion bef

Re: About valid and invalid user names

2005-02-05 Thread Alastair McKinstry
On Sath, 2005-02-05 at 13:38 +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > Hi, > > adduser has two bug reports open where people are asking for user name > rules to be relaxed. One report wants "." to be allowed in user names, > another wants usernames to start with numbers. > > May I ask for your opinion before de

Re: library packaging doc...

2005-02-05 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hi Joey > > > > Just request to [EMAIL PROTECTED] while pointing them our message on > > this list. > > Or see and follow the instructions summarised on > http://master.debian.org/~joey/misc/webwml.html#ddp According to the page you pointed to, it seems to tell me that I should send request t

Re: About valid and invalid user names

2005-02-05 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2005-02-05 14:18:32, schrieb Wim De Smet: > I think the discussion came up earlier here. IIRC the conclusion was > that it could be relaxed for .'s (don't know about numbers). Although > it can cause confusion with chown a.b format. But chown should now be > patched to behave correctly on chown

Plese test new adduser in experimental

2005-02-05 Thread Marc Haber
Hi, please test the new adduser package in experimental which was uploaded today. It fixes a number of minor functionality bugs and also three issues where deluser --remove-home wasn't foolproof enough. It will now by default refuse to delete /, /bin, /usr, /var and other important directories, a

Re: About valid and invalid user names

2005-02-05 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Marc Haber] > adduser has two bug reports open where people are asking for user name > rules to be relaxed. One report wants "." to be allowed in user names, > another wants usernames to start with numbers. > > May I ask for your opinion before denying or following the requests? Personally, I pr

Re: About valid and invalid user names

2005-02-05 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 05 Feb 2005, Marc Haber wrote: > adduser has two bug reports open where people are asking for user name > rules to be relaxed. One report wants "." to be allowed in user names, > another wants usernames to start with numbers. Allowing the dot is ok. I do think that usernames starting with

Re: About valid and invalid user names

2005-02-05 Thread Andreas Barth
* Henrique de Moraes Holschuh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050205 16:35]: > On Sat, 05 Feb 2005, Marc Haber wrote: > > adduser has two bug reports open where people are asking for user name > > rules to be relaxed. One report wants "." to be allowed in user names, > > another wants usernames to start with

Re: About valid and invalid user names

2005-02-05 Thread Petri Latvala
On Sat, 2005-02-05 at 16:39 +0100, Andreas Barth wrote: > IMHO even the dot is, eh, difficult. Consider a chown user.group file. if (no_such_username) { chown(); chgrp(); } else { chown(); } If there is such an username and the user meant to change both user and group, it's his own fault for not

Re: About valid and invalid user names

2005-02-05 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > On Sat, 05 Feb 2005, Marc Haber wrote: >> adduser has two bug reports open where people are asking for user name >> rules to be relaxed. One report wants "." to be allowed in user names, >> another wants usernames to start with numbers. > > Allowing the

Re: About valid and invalid user names

2005-02-05 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 05 Feb 2005, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > > On Sat, 05 Feb 2005, Marc Haber wrote: > >> adduser has two bug reports open where people are asking for user name > >> rules to be relaxed. One report wants "." to be allowed in user names, > >> another wan

Re: About valid and invalid user names

2005-02-05 Thread Steve Greenland
On 05-Feb-05, 10:47 (CST), Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Because '.' is POSIX, thus valid. And not accepting the '.' is a damn > bug in any POSIX-compliant utility. According the SUS section that Kurt quoted, leading digits are equally acceptable. I think it might

Re: About valid and invalid user names

2005-02-05 Thread Marc Haber
On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 17:21:28 +0100, Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Why not make it an configurable RE? I am quite reluctant with a so big change in a base package, ranking at #1 in popcon, so soon before sarge release. Greetings Marc -- -- !! No

Re: About valid and invalid user names

2005-02-05 Thread Marc Haber
On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 14:47:37 -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Because people will use it to enable users with start with a digit, since >they certainly don't know better or they would never have asked for this. Right now, we have users patching the adduser "binary" to

Re: About valid and invalid user names

2005-02-05 Thread Florian Weimer
* Marc Haber: > On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 17:21:28 +0100, Bernd Eckenfels > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>Why not make it an configurable RE? > > I am quite reluctant with a so big change in a base package, ranking > at #1 in popcon, so soon before sarge release. The check is on a very common code path.

Re: About valid and invalid user names

2005-02-05 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 05 Feb 2005, Marc Haber wrote: > On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 14:47:37 -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Because people will use it to enable users with start with a digit, since > >they certainly don't know better or they would never have asked for this. > > Right n

Bug#293772: ITP: gr-audio-alsa -- GNU Radio interface to ALSA audio

2005-02-05 Thread Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: gr-audio-alsa Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : Eric Blossom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL or Web page : http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuradio * License : GNU GPL v2 or later Description : GNU Radio interface to ALSA audio T

Bug#293771: ITP: gr-ssrp -- GNU Radio interface to SSRP

2005-02-05 Thread Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: gr-ssrp Version : 0.2 Upstream Author : David Carr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL or Web page : http://oscar.dcarr.org/ssrp/ * License : GNU GPL v2 Description : GNU Radio interface to SSRP The package interfaces the GNU R

Bug#293773: ITP: gr-wxgui -- GUI toolkit for GNURadio

2005-02-05 Thread Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: gr-wxgui Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : Eric Blossom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL or Web page : http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuradio * License : GNU GPL v2 or later Description : GUI toolkit for GNURadio This package is

Bug#293774: ITP: gr-audio-oss -- GNU Radio interface to OSS audio

2005-02-05 Thread Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: gr-audio-oss Version : 0.2 Upstream Author : Eric Blossom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL or Web page : http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuradio/ * License : GNU GPL v2 or later Description : GNU Radio interface to OSS audio Th

Bug#293775: ITP: gnuradio-examples -- Example programs to test and use GNURadio

2005-02-05 Thread Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: gnuradio-examples Version : 0.2 Upstream Author : Eric Blossom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL or Web page : http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuradio * License : GNU GPL v2 or later Description : Example programs to test and use

Bug#293776: ITP: ssrp -- Simple Software Radio Peripheral

2005-02-05 Thread Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: ssrp Version : 0.3.3 Upstream Author : David Carr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL or Web page : http://oscar.dcarr.org/ssrp/ * License : GNU GPL v2 or later Description : Simple Software Radio Peripheral SSRP is a simplifie

Bug#293785: ITP: gnomebaker -- CD/DVD writer for the GNOME desktop

2005-02-05 Thread Goedson Teixeira Paixao
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: gnomebaker Version : 0.3 Upstream Author : Luke Biddel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/gnomebaker/ * License : GPL Description : CD/DVD writer for the GNOME desktop Gnomeb

Re: About valid and invalid user names

2005-02-05 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2005-02-05 17:21:28, schrieb Bernd Eckenfels: > Why not make it an configurable RE? You cant avoid ppl breaking their > systems, but you can help them to enforce their policy. For example : may be > fine on non-passwd systems (however some tools will have trouble with that). > chown was recentl

Re: About valid and invalid user names

2005-02-05 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2005-02-05 11:13:50, schrieb Steve Greenland: > According the SUS section that Kurt quoted, leading digits are equally > acceptable. I think it might be reasonable to accept leading digits when > there is at least one non-digit in the name. Agreed. > Steve Greetings Michelle -- Linux-User

dpkg-preconfigure error messages

2005-02-05 Thread Jochen Voss
Hello, suddenly I start to get mighty frightening error messages: plonk:~# apt-get install --reinstall dpkg Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 reinstalled, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded. Need to get 0B/1656kB of ar

Re: dpkg-preconfigure error messages

2005-02-05 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Jochen Voss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-02-05 20:43]: > Is this problem known? What is the cause of this? I checked both > the dpkg and the gettext bug report pages but did not recognise > anything similar. It's fixed in debconf 1.4.44 which just got accepted today. debconf (1.4.44) unstable;

Re: dpkg-preconfigure error messages

2005-02-05 Thread Jochen Voss
Hello Martin, On Sat, Feb 05, 2005 at 08:51:38PM +, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > It's fixed in debconf 1.4.44 which just got accepted today. Thank you for the quick answer. > * Fix a rogue quotation mark intorduced in the translatable string patch > in the previous version. Closes: #293666

Re: Bug#293771: ITP: gr-ssrp -- GNU Radio interface to SSRP

2005-02-05 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Sat, Feb 05, 2005 at 11:16:54PM +0530, Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan wrote: > The package interfaces the GNU Radio libraries to SSRP > hardware interface. Just so people know; there will be a gr-usrp as well (for the http://comsec.com/wiki?UniversalSoftwareRadioPeripheral), but as I haven't rec

Debug packages cluttering the archive

2005-02-05 Thread Josselin Mouette
With the increasing numbers of libraries, especially libraries in development, we have an increasing number of -dbg packages in the archive. As they are useful only for debugging, and not for the average user, I think they are mostly cluttering the Packages file and mirror space. Practically speak

DD needing a sponsor to upload

2005-02-05 Thread Nicolas Boullis
Hi, As I moved recently, I currently have no decent Internet connectivity. Hence, I'm quite unable to keep an unstable system up-to-date, si I can't build packages to upload. Several packages of mine are in need of an upload, especially libcdio and vcdimager. I have uploaded the source package

Re: Bug#293772: ITP: gr-audio-alsa -- GNU Radio interface to ALSA audio

2005-02-05 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan | Package: wnpp | Severity: wishlist | | * Package name: gr-audio-alsa | Version : 0.1 | Upstream Author : Eric Blossom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | * URL or Web page : http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuradio | * License : GNU GPL v2 or later | Descri

Re: About valid and invalid user names

2005-02-05 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Sat, Feb 05, 2005 at 02:47:37PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > Please don't give people this much rope to hang themselves with *so easily*. Why dont u think they dont change the name of the user in the passwd?! I dont think it is needed to play big daddy microsoft here. If somebod

Re: [Xen-devel] Re: xen 2.0.x and debian

2005-02-05 Thread Adam Heath
On Sat, 5 Feb 2005, Adam Heath wrote: > On Wed, 2 Feb 2005, Nuutti Kotivuori wrote: > > > Tom Hibbert wrote: > > > I think we are waiting on 2.6.10 to get accepted into testing. If > > > you're tired of waiting you can build the debs yourself (like I did > > > :) > > > > > > http://people.debian.

Inconsistent naming of ethernet interfaces...

2005-02-05 Thread salman h
I have a computer system with 3 ethernet ports, one on the motherboard and two on a dual NIC PCI card. Typically, the onboard port is aliased as eth0 while the ports on the NIC get assigned eth1 and eth2. Lately, eth1 gets assigned to the onboard port, which is very annoying since that messes up

Re: Debug packages cluttering the archive

2005-02-05 Thread Joel Aelwyn
On Sun, Feb 06, 2005 at 12:36:55AM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > With the increasing numbers of libraries, especially libraries in > development, we have an increasing number of -dbg packages in the > archive. As they are useful only for debugging, and not for the average > user, I think they ar

Re: Debug packages cluttering the archive

2005-02-05 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Sat, Feb 05, 2005 at 10:33:53PM -0700, Joel Aelwyn wrote: > It was brought up on IRC, a couple of weeks ago (my apologies, but I don't > recall who brought it up, nor do I have a log) that it is now possible > to strip debugging information from a binary or library, and keep the > debugging info