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Hi,
just an idea from a completely uneducated person regarding buildd:
What about if each freshly uploaded package which contains architecture any
packages would enter kind of a staging area first and buildds grab these
files from there. After each buildd was able to build a package the
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 11:18:39PM -0500, Joe Drew wrote:
> This doesn't really tell me anything about ENTROPY. How about
> "anti-censorship network client"?
That would do.
> The acronym ENTROPY should be defined in the first line of the long
> description.
Right, better than the short descripti
Am 19.11.03 um 07:42:18 schrieb Andreas Tille:
>After each buildd was able to build a package the whole
>set with all architectures enters unstable at once.
Yeah, cool. That would get rid of many buggy packages. And many clean
ones. Some buildd are horribly behind time. No offence meant, i
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On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 08:48:10AM +0100, Michael Piefel wrote:
> Am 19.11.03 um 07:42:18 schrieb Andreas Tille:
> >After each buildd was able to build a package the whole
> >set with all architectures enters unstable at once.
I like the idea.
> Yeah, cool. That would get rid of many bugg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> Take workrave, for instance. Perfectly stable, as far as I can tell. Not
> built recently on m68k (because of libgnomeuimm2.0-dev), not built on
> alpha for a very long time (same reason). It's not in testing, which is
> bad enough, with your idea only a
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> I find myself wondering if Duff's Device is implementable in Python...
The closest beast I can think of would generate the unrolled loop at
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Andreas Tille wrote:
Hi,
just an idea from a completely uneducated person regarding buildd:
What about if each freshly uploaded package which contains architecture any
packages would enter kind of a staging area first and buildds grab these
files from there. After each buildd was able to
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 07:42:18AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
> Hi,
>
> just an idea from a completely uneducated person regarding buildd:
>
>What about if each freshly uploaded package which contains architecture any
>packages would enter kind of a staging area first and buildds grab th
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 09:58:54PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
| Cameron Patrick wrote:
| >I don't think it is. Python doesn't have a switch/case equivalent. It'd
| >have to be done with a bunch of if's or something.
|
| Well, depends. Do you consider its dictionary to be a switch?
Nope, no f
Stephen Frost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> It would be really nice to have 7.4 in sarge.. Personally I think there
> should probably be enough time given the lack of messages on d-d-a
> regarding freezes and the like. 7.4 adds alot of nice things and speeds
> up a number of operations, etc.
Fu
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On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 09:44:31AM +0100, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
> No!!! it would delay to much the entry of some important packages in
> unstable. It would maybe improve some architectures, but definitely
> would reduce extensive testing of newer versions.
In which way would it improve
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 11:02:17AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> I don't think people would like it if their package stayed in incoming
> for multiple weeks because there's a backlog on some architecture.
Neither i. This is why i would like to receive baklogs mailed to maintainer if
autobuild fa
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Adrian wrote:
> Your proposal wouldn't have been able to shorten the move of KDE 3 into
> testing by one single day.
Yes, my comment was misplaced wrt what you said, this problem still
has to be addressed. My proposal, however, is more targetted to
packages which would build with, say, KDE2, but
On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 10:42:11PM +0100, David Weinehall wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 07:52:32AM +1100, Brian May wrote:
> >
> > 1. Linux 2.6.0?
>
> Not released yet. Yes, it has a _lot_ of nice features, but it is beta
> software..
It (or patches to 2.4.22) is also needed if you decide to
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis wrote:
> If we let it in and then we auto-build it, we get a new package with FTBFS
> (i.e RC) bugs and slow down release even more.
> If we auto-build it first and, if no upstream/package faults, we let it in, we
> get less RC bugs.
Exactly this
hi,
i see that perl 5.8.2-2 is marked "Not-For-Us" on mips buildd.
why it is in this state? it blocks the build of a lot of software.
cheers
dom
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On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 07:42:18AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
>
>What about if each freshly uploaded package which contains architecture any
>packages would enter kind of a staging area first and buildds grab these
>files from there. After each buildd was able to build a package the
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote:
> b. They are already kept off testing (if there is a regression),
>so what's the problem?
The problem is that other packages which might depend from a package
which is broken on one architecture will not move into testing. If you
would keep
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 11:10:14AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis wrote:
>
> > If we let it in and then we auto-build it, we get a new package with FTBFS
> > (i.e RC) bugs and slow down release even more.
> > If we auto-build it first and, if no u
Ingo Juergensmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
> Perl is building fine as well now on mips, although it is marked as
> not-for-us. See
> http://m68k.bluespice.org/cgi/package_status?mips_pkg=perl&searchtype=go
> paco:/home/ij# ls -l *.deb
> -rw-r--r--1 root root35172 Nov 18 22:
Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis wrote:
(...)
Why developers should care more about packages not entering
into unstable that packages not entering into testing?
I worry about indirect delays. Scenario: developer A@ do good job with
packages A, but A requires packages B. What should A do?
Waiting and
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 11:10:14AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
> Exactly this was the idea. I'm unsure whether experimental could serve as
> this kind of staging area.
I would keep experimental only for experiments (:P), while i see your proposal
as a new step to be included in our packages workf
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On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 11:33:05AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote:
>
> > b. They are already kept off testing (if there is a regression),
> >so what's the problem?
> The problem is that other packages which might depend from a package
> which is
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 11:21:18AM +0100, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
> I worry about indirect delays. Scenario: developer A@ do good job with
> packages A, but A requires packages B. What should A do?
> Waiting and not lose the motivation?
> Help B@, maybe with a NMU, but still waiting the canoni
Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 11:02:17AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
>> I don't think people would like it if their package stayed in incoming
>> for multiple weeks because there's a backlog on some architecture.
> Neither i. This is why i wo
On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 12:44:03PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote:
> No, but if you don't do it, you forfeit your right to whine about
> duplicate work when it turns out that you're not the only one who has
> been doing work without telling anybody about it.
So, _both_ people involved should have
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
> I worry about indirect delays. Scenario: developer A@ do good job with
> packages A, but A requires packages B. What should A do?
> Waiting and not lose the motivation?
But the problem can be the other way around: A builds his package against
pack
Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> This seems on topic for the list's stated purpose: "Discussion about
> technical development topics."
>
> I'm trying to build rekall from rekallrevealed.org. It seems like it's
> going to have lots of build dependencies. If anyone has ever built it
> on debi
Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi,
>
> just an idea from a completely uneducated person regarding buildd:
>
>What about if each freshly uploaded package which contains architecture any
>packages would enter kind of a staging area first and buildds grab these
>files from
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 10:15:25AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 05:35:19PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> > On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 05:42:20PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > > - Debian 3.0 doesn't support much of the hardware curently available -
> > > the old 2.4.18 kerne
Sorry for my late reply:
Am Don, 2003-10-23 um 15.17 schrieb Joe Drew:
> > * Package name: sagasu
> Er, what does this add over the standard "Search for files" GNOME
> action?
- use of Perl regex
- max. directory recursion depth
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Daniel Gubser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Domenico Andreoli, 2003-11-19 11:30:17 +0100 :
> i see that perl 5.8.2-2 is marked "Not-For-Us" on mips buildd.
>
> why it is in this state? it blocks the build of a lot of software.
I'm currently building it by hand.
Roland.
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Qu'est-ce qui est petit, jaune et vachement dangereux
Roland Stigge wrote:
> debian-legalint
I don't think this is a good idea. "non-free" doesn't mean "illegal".
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 10:41:05AM +0100, Yann Dirson wrote:
> > testsuites must be written, and testsuites for GUI programs are even
> > more work.
>
> Fortunately several of the packages we ship already have one.
Most do not.
> And for the bunch of non-gui programs, we could surely add some
>
Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis wrote:
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 11:21:18AM +0100, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
- the developers (maybe requiring not only uploader) could override the
waiting status in pre-unstable queue.
I do not understand this: what do you mean?
I don't like automatic system wit
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 07:42:18AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
> just an idea from a completely uneducated person regarding buildd:
>
>What about if each freshly uploaded package which contains architecture any
>packages would enter kind of a staging area first and buildds grab these
>
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> You are ignoring all the packages that don't build and never have been
> build for some architecture. Mainly that happens if some
> build-depends, like the compiler needed, wasn't yet ported.
But this is no FTBFS bug than. I just want to keep pac
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> This seems like a solution in search of a problem. What problem are
> you actually trying to solve? Start by describing it, then we can try
> dreaming up ways to solve it. [Given your vague description of what
> this would accomplish, I have a few gues
LVM1 includes kernel headers in its build - yeah, I know, but it does interface
(rather too) tightly into the kernel.
The problem now is that the linux-kernel-headers package has Linux 2.6 files in
it rather than 2.4 and LVM(1) is not supported in 2.6. so it doesn't build.
This isn't a new probl
On Wed, 2003-11-19 at 14:41, Florian Weimer wrote:
> > debian-legalint
>
> I don't think this is a good idea. "non-free" doesn't mean "illegal".
In contrast to the common German denotation of the word "legal"
("allowed"), consider the one implied by the usage of "legal" in names
like "debian-leg
+++ Yann Dirson [03-11-18 22:54 +0100]:
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 07:29:29PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> But that last point raises another issue: does anyone really use
> testing ? Would anyone use pre-testing after all ?
I used testing for a couple of years on my laptop and non-critical machin
Would you have a
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On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 02:18:34PM +, Patrick Caulfield wrote:
> The only solution I can think of is for the lvm10 package to build-depend on
> (eg) kernel-source-2.4.19, then in the build script untar the header
> files, make the arch symlink (ugh) and compile against that.
>
> Does anyone el
Roland Stigge wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-11-19 at 14:41, Florian Weimer wrote:
> > > debian-legalint
> >
> > I don't think this is a good idea. "non-free" doesn't mean "illegal".
>
> In contrast to the common German denotation of the word "legal"
> ("allowed"), consider the one implied by the usage
Hi,
debian-devel is a list for development of the Debian distribution, not
a general programming list. For a more appropriate list, look on the
glade website at glade.gnome.org.
I'm afraid I can't help you with this problem, but I do offer some
advice: use libglade to load the glade xml dynamica
On Wed, 2003-11-19 at 09:14, Foster William MSgt AF/XPI-ES wrote:
> Would you have a Win2K/WinXP driver? Thanks.
>
>
> WILLIAM E. FOSTER
> Chief, Information Technology & Security
> DCS/Plans and Programs
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> comm: 703 695-3539
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Sorry this is a mailin
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 03:12:42PM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> > This seems like a solution in search of a problem. What problem are
> > you actually trying to solve? Start by describing it, then we can try
> > dreaming up ways to solve it. [Given you
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 11:05:49AM +0100, Domenico Andreoli wrote:
> i see that perl 5.8.2-2 is marked "Not-For-Us" on mips buildd.
>
> why it is in this state? it blocks the build of a lot of software.
I'm told that getting it past the test suite requires a newer kernel,
which our mips buildds d
A levelezőm azt hiszi, hogy Florian Weimer a következőeket írta:
> Let me rephrase my statement. "non-free" does not mean "not conforming
> to the law".
Non-free does mean "not conforming to the internal law of the project".
--
GNU GPL: csak tiszta forrásból
MagosÃnyi ÃrpÃd wrote:
> A levelezÅm azt hiszi, hogy Florian Weimer a kÃvetkezÅeket Ãrta:
> > Let me rephrase my statement. "non-free" does not mean "not conforming
> > to the law".
>
> Non-free does mean "not conforming to the internal law of the project".
The Social Contract mandates that Deb
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On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 04:04:49PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
> Magosányi Árpád wrote:
>
> > A levelez??m azt hiszi, hogy Florian Weimer a következ??eket írta:
> > > Let me rephrase my statement. "non-free" does not mean "not
> > > conforming to the law".
> >
> > Non-free does mean "not confor
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On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 03:33:53PM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 02:18:34PM +, Patrick Caulfield wrote:
> > The only solution I can think of is for the lvm10 package to build-depend on
> > (eg) kernel-source-2.4.19, then in the build script untar the header
> > files
Cameron Patrick wrote:
Nope, no fall-through in that one, so it doesn't help. It /is/ nifty
though :-)
Uh, there was a fall through there. Notice that if x has a value that
isn't in the dictionary the if will fall through to the else.
--
Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm
I like this idea of pre-testing. It would allow to cut down the versionned
dependencies caused by automatic detection and allow a quicker move to
testing.
The issue I see however is that a package rebuilded that way would go into
testing without being tested by anyone. What if a given package fai
You might be able to get away w/ simply including the lvm-specific kernel
headers in your package, as long as the lower level asm stuff that it uses
haven't changed their interface in 2.6. OTOH, it also might introduce
subtle bugs. Maybe you're better off build-dep'ing.
Sigh. I should probably
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 08:58:17AM -0500, Stephen Frost wrote:
> It would be really nice to have 7.4 in sarge.. Personally I think
> there should probably be enough time given the lack of messages on
> d-d-a regarding freezes and the like. 7.4 adds alot of nice things
> and speeds up a number of
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 10:43:22AM -0600, Graham Wilson wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 08:58:17AM -0500, Stephen Frost wrote:
> > It would be really nice to have 7.4 in sarge.. Personally I think
> > there should probably be enough time given the lack of messages on
> > d-d-a regarding freezes a
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 02:03:08PM +, Wookey wrote:
> Doing my builds on a testing machine, then uploading to
> unstable can mean I introduce packages compiled against the wrong library
> versions. Source-only uploads would solve this and I could do test-compiles
> on some debian machine.
Off
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 06:03:39PM +0100, Karsten Merker wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 02:58:16PM +, Colin Watson wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 11:05:49AM +0100, Domenico Andreoli wrote:
> > > i see that perl 5.8.2-2 is marked "Not-For-Us" on mips buildd.
> > >
> > > why it is in this
Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>
> > You are ignoring all the packages that don't build and never have been
> > build for some architecture. Mainly that happens if some
> > build-depends, like the compiler needed, wasn't yet ported.
I
I'm building kernels for an embedded x86 product, and I'm falling in
love with make-kpkg. My only problem is that
make-kpkg --added-modules pcmcia-cs kernel_image modules_image
doesn't do a depmod on the pcmcia-cs modules against the built kernel. I
assume others have not run into this problem as
"Giacomo A. Catenazzi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 11:21:18AM +0100, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
>
> >> - the developers (maybe requiring not only uploader) could override
> >> the waiting status in pre-unstable queue.
>
> >
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 03:56:44PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> DDs have to sign and upload a package with a backdoor.
>
> On the buildd I can install a gcc or other tool that will silently add
> a backdoor to anything getting compiled and the buildd admin will sign
> and upload the packa
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 06:43:00AM +0100, Ingo Juergensmann wrote:
> Perl is building fine as well now on mips, although it is marked as
> not-for-us. See
> http://m68k.bluespice.org/cgi/package_status?mips_pkg=perl&searchtype=go
This might be due to the fact that the autobuilders don't run recent
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Andreas Tille wrote:
> just an idea from a completely uneducated person regarding buildd:
>
>What about if each freshly uploaded package which contains architecture any
>packages would enter kind of a staging area first and buildds grab these
>files from there. Af
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Hi,
On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 11:20:21AM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 04:30:26PM +0100, Martin Schulze wrote:
> > Kenshi Muto wrote:
> > > At Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:59:24 +0100,
> > > Martin Schulze wrote:
> > > > Preparation of Debian GNU/Linux 3.0r2
> > > > =
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 05:42:29PM +, Colin Watson wrote:
> [...]
> - Fix msqid_ds on MIPS. Dpatch from Guido Guenther, patch by
> Thiemo Seufer (Closes: #215273, #200215, #217593).
> [...]
...additionally the current 2.4.22 mips kernel packages have the
necessary fixes. The mips
Steve Langasek wrote:
> > If I understood you correctly, you want me to remove these packages:
>
> > ttf-kochi-mincho
> > ttf-kochi-mincho-naga10
> > ttf-xwatanabe-mincho
> > watanabe-vfont
> > ttf-xtt-wadalab-gothic (source ttf-xtt)
> > ttf-xtt-watanabe-mincho (source ttf-xtt)
>
> > from the sta
Scripsit Mike Beattie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > This is a good, though perhaps too detailed, long description.
> Taken directly from the web page... (I'm lazy)
The description left me wondering whether this is just anonter
peer-to-peer filesharing network, or there is something else to
it. Either
Scripsit Jonathan Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 12:44:03PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote:
> > No, but if you don't do it, you forfeit your right to whine about
> > duplicate work when it turns out that you're not the only one who has
> > been doing work without telling anybo
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:20:09 +0100, Guido Guenther wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 06:43:00AM +0100, Ingo Juergensmann wrote:
>> Perl is building fine as well now on mips, although it is marked as
>> not-for-us. See
>> http://m68k.bluespice.org/cgi/package_status?mips_pkg=perl&searchtype=go
> Thi
Martin Michlmayr - Debian Project Leader, on 2003-11-19, 14:32, you wrote:
> * Ingo Juergensmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-11-16 15:40]:
> > > Yes, a fairly powerful machine has recently been donated to Debian and
> > > we're currently working out where to host it.
> >
> > Where is it located?
>
Scripsit Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Roland Stigge wrote:
> > debian-legalint
> I don't think this is a good idea.
Me neither. A "virtual debian-legal" would be something that analyzed
licenses:
$ debian-legalint COPYRIGHT.foo
COPYRIGHT.foo:33: warning: mentions specific protocol stand
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 07:04:45PM +0100, Guido Guenther wrote:
> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
>
> * Package name: at76c503a-source
> Version : 0.11.beta5
> * URL : Oliver Kurth
> * License : GPL
> Description : at76c503a driver source
That is my ema
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 08:06:32PM +0100, Guido Guenther wrote:
> Hi Oliver,
> On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 07:43:30PM +0100, Oliver Kurth wrote:
> > That is my email addrss in the URL field... not the site to
> > download. It is really
> > http://at76c503a.berlios.de/
> > My name is correct for upstrea
vhi
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 08:01:40PM +0100, Oliver Kurth wrote:
> Okay, but you placed an email into the URL field.
Cut'n'Paste erro. It's correct in the package.
> This is okay. Atmel allows to distribute those files, I have got a message
> from one of their developers, it should also be on the mai
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 07:52:22PM +0100, Oliver Kurth wrote:
> There may also be issues with the firmware: the source is /not/ GPL'ed, but
> the hex files from Atmel are. I am not sure if this is possible, and if it
> is a problem for Debian to get it into main.
IANAL, but...
If the hex files ar
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 08:26:56PM +0100, Guido Guenther wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 08:01:40PM +0100, Oliver Kurth wrote:
> > Okay, but you placed an email into the URL field.
> Cut'n'Paste erro. It's correct in the package.
Fine.
> > This is okay. Atmel allows to distribute those files, I
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 08:41:32PM +0100, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 07:52:22PM +0100, Oliver Kurth wrote:
> > There may also be issues with the firmware: the source is /not/ GPL'ed, but
> > the hex files from Atmel are. I am not sure if this is possible, and if it
> > is
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 08:00:48PM +, Henning Makholm wrote:
> Scripsit Oliver Kurth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > But you do not seem to see my point: the human readable sources of the
> > firmware files are _not_ open. The hex files, ie. the compiled form,
> > in ACSII format they say _are_ GPL'
Scripsit Oliver Kurth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> But you do not seem to see my point: the human readable sources of the
> firmware files are _not_ open. The hex files, ie. the compiled form,
> in ACSII format they say _are_ GPL'ed (despite the disclaimer in those
> files, see above).
What you're missi
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 03:43:31AM -0600, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 11:02:17AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > I don't think people would like it if their package stayed in incoming
> > for multiple weeks because there's a backlog on some architecture.
>
> N
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 08:25:44PM +, Henning Makholm wrote:
> Scripsit Oliver Kurth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > > If the hex files are GPLed, they are probably not distributable -- hex .c
> > > files probably do not fall into the GPL's definition of source
> > > code
>
> > Maybe there can be a
Scripsit Oliver Kurth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > If the hex files are GPLed, they are probably not distributable -- hex .c
> > files probably do not fall into the GPL's definition of source
> > code
> Maybe there can be an exception because the code is not run on the host
> but on the device?
Who d
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 15:44:54 +1100, Peter Gatt wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Projects/project1$ ./autogen.sh
> \**Warning**: I am going to run `configure' with no arguments.
> If you wish to pass any to it, please specify them on the
> `./autogen.sh' command line.
>
> processing .
> Running ac
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Oliver Kurth wrote:
> Sigh. So if Atmel says these files are no longer GPL'ed, but are just
> freely distributable, it could at least go to non-free?
Yes.
> Sounds ridiculous. (Law is too complicated to me, so I stick to
> programming ;-) )
Thats part and parcel of the GPL..
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 08:36:31PM +0100, Oliver Kurth wrote:
> I am sure these lines in the files can be removed, by bugging the
> Atmel people, or at least 'override' it with an 'It is okay' message
> from them.
O.k., we can upload to non-free then.
> But you do not seem to see my point: the hum
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Marc A. Pelletier wrote:
> Now /that/ is interresting and smart and is indeed likely the most promising
> avenue for quick and dirty daemond integration in debian; the problem is that
> from what I have understood, update-rc.d suffers from, by design, exactly the
> same prob
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