libstdc++2.8 wherefor art thou?

2003-10-02 Thread Gregory Stark
What happened to libstdc++2.8 ? I have local files installed that depend on this library. Is there a solution? Package libstdc++2.8 has no available version, but exists in the database. This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and never uploaded, has been obsoleted or i

Where are we now? (Was: Bits from the RM)

2003-10-02 Thread Scott James Remnant
I was interested how we're doing according to AJ's original timetable, so had a read and see how we're doing given we've just passed the third date milestone... This is given "without comment", that is I'm not trying to start a flamewar here. On Tue, 2003-08-19 at 07:49, Anthony Towns wrote: >

Re: Where are we now? (Was: Bits from the RM)

2003-10-02 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Scott James Remnant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-10-02 05:57]: > > HOWTO use debian-installer to install sarge posted to > > -devel-announce (volunteers appreciated) > > > Ah yes, what a wonderful read that was ... no, wait, this never > happened. * Debian-Installer HO

Re: Where are we now? (Was: Bits from the RM)

2003-10-02 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 05:57:58AM +0100, Scott James Remnant wrote: > > * September 1st > > HOWTO use debian-installer to install sarge posted to > > -devel-announce (volunteers appreciated) > Ah yes, what a wonderful read that was ... no, wait, this never > happened

Re: Where are we now? (Was: Bits from the RM)

2003-10-02 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 06:45, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 05:57:58AM +0100, Scott James Remnant wrote: > > > > * September 1st > > > > HOWTO use debian-installer to install sarge posted to > > > -devel-announce (volunteers appreciated) > > > Ah yes, what

Looking for a co-maintainer for adduser

2003-10-02 Thread Roland Bauerschmidt
The number of bugs on the adduser package has constantly increased for the last few months, though none of them is release critical. Since I was busy with other stuff (mostly OpenLDAP and related stuff) I didn't keep up with all the feature requests and non-critical bugs. This is also partly due to

Re: Where are we now? (Was: Bits from the RM)

2003-10-02 Thread Sebastian Ley
Am Do, den 02.10.2003 schrieb Martin Michlmayr um 07:42: > * Debian-Installer HOWTO Sebastian Ley > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2003/debian-devel-announce-200309/msg7.html During the last debcamp we took the opportunity to introduce some last major changes which leaves

Re: Where are we now? (Was: Bits from the RM)

2003-10-02 Thread Chris Cheney
I still need to get KDE 3.1.4 into sid and stablized. I hope for it to be ready to migrate into sarge by Oct 20 (including the 10 day wait time). From what Colin Watson mentioned to me earlier today there are some other packages that are holding KDE out as well so hopefully they are resolved by the

Re: libstdc++2.8 wherefor art thou?

2003-10-02 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 12:58:51AM -0400, Gregory Stark wrote: > What happened to libstdc++2.8 ? I have local files installed that > depend on this library. Is there a solution? You could always pull it from an old release - I doubt it's changed. -- Colin Watson

Re: Looking for a co-maintainer for adduser

2003-10-02 Thread Domenico Andreoli
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 10:02:38AM +0200, Roland Bauerschmidt wrote: > The number of bugs on the adduser package has constantly increased for > the last few months, though none of them is release critical. Since I > was busy with other stuff (mostly OpenLDAP and related stuff) I didn't > keep up wi

Re: Looking for a co-maintainer for adduser

2003-10-02 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 10:16:28AM +0200, Domenico Andreoli wrote: > On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 10:02:38AM +0200, Roland Bauerschmidt wrote: > > Matthew Palmer has done some nice work in abstracting the passwd storage > > backend, and adding methods for LDAP storage. The latter, though, still > > need

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Re: local Release

2003-10-02 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Wed, 2003-10-01 at 16:22, Marcos Dione wrote: > 'frankie', where I have my apps debs and symlinks to the versions I want > E: Release 'farnkie' for 'galeon' not found frankie != farnkie could that be what's wrong? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

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Which packages will hold up the release?

2003-10-02 Thread Peter Makholm
/* You might ignore this comment... Looking at the list of RC bugs the packages seems to fall in two categories. Packages I don't use and packages I don't feel comfortable in touching (glibc being an example of the latter). I don't know the reason for some packages being marked [REMOVE] but

Re: Which packages will hold up the release?

2003-10-02 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 12:38:57PM +0200, Peter Makholm wrote: > A script that reads packages I'm interested in and prints out the > RC-bugs I should try to fix would be usable. Does anyone have such > script? Yup. It's been posted before (it's called rc-alert). I've got a copy here; if you can'

Re: Which packages will hold up the release?

2003-10-02 Thread Martin Pitt
Hi! Am 2003-10-02 12:38 +0200 schrieb Peter Makholm: > I don't know the reason for some packages being marked [REMOVE] but it > seems to me that it is not just an 'This package is not essential for > a releas an useful distribution'. OTOH, php4 is marked for removal. I assume that I'm not the onl

Re: Where are we now? (Was: Bits from the RM)

2003-10-02 Thread Rob Bradford
On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 05:57, Scott James Remnant wrote: > So "Where are we now?" Having played with d-i some and kept a watchful > eye on the release-critical list, I guess we're currently at the > "September 15th" dateline which puts us roughly 14 days behind schedule. And I havent even started

Re: Which packages will hold up the release?

2003-10-02 Thread Peter Makholm
Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 12:38:57PM +0200, Peter Makholm wrote: >> A script that reads packages I'm interested in and prints out the >> RC-bugs I should try to fix would be usable. Does anyone have such >> script? > > Yup. It's been posted before (it's

Re: Which packages will hold up the release?

2003-10-02 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Martin Pitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I did not dig into the reasons why php4 should be removed (BTS says > "see -release", but that doesn't tell me anything), so I don't object > against it loudly. But I would certainly call it a pity if it > disappears. It would make Debian much less useful f

Re: Where are we now? (Was: Bits from the RM)

2003-10-02 Thread Stephen Frost
* Steve Langasek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > It's been noted several times that the end of the 0-day NMU period was > accompanied by a marked reversal in the RC bug graph. I think it's time > for a group debriefing of this experience. I was pleasantly surprised > to have not heard of a single co

Re: Which packages will hold up the release?

2003-10-02 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 02:06:27PM +0200, Martin Pitt wrote: > Am 2003-10-02 12:38 +0200 schrieb Peter Makholm: > > I don't know the reason for some packages being marked [REMOVE] but it > > seems to me that it is not just an 'This package is not essential for > > a releas an useful distribution'.

Re: Where are we now? (Was: Bits from the RM)

2003-10-02 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 01:22:34PM +0100, Rob Bradford wrote: > be fun though. I'm planning to only support upgrades from potato and > woody. So that means i can remove all the cruft about upgrading from I was under the impression (don't ask me how; perhaps my mind came up with it on it's own) tha

Re: Which packages will hold up the release?

2003-10-02 Thread Martin Quinson
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 02:06:27PM +0200, Martin Pitt wrote: > Hi! > > Am 2003-10-02 12:38 +0200 schrieb Peter Makholm: > > I don't know the reason for some packages being marked [REMOVE] but it > > seems to me that it is not just an 'This package is not essential for > > a releas an useful distri

Re: Which packages will hold up the release?

2003-10-02 Thread Martin Quinson
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 02:10:21PM +0200, Peter Makholm wrote: > Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 12:38:57PM +0200, Peter Makholm wrote: > >> A script that reads packages I'm interested in and prints out the > >> RC-bugs I should try to fix would be usable.

Re: Looking for a co-maintainer for adduser

2003-10-02 Thread John Hasler
Colin Watson writes: > That would mean we'd have to add python to the base system. I'd _really_ rather not see that. While I now use Python in preference to Perl, I don't think its advantages justify bloating base. Perl's just another procedural language. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John

Re: Which packages will hold up the release?

2003-10-02 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Matthew Palmer] > Yup. It's been posted before (it's called rc-alert). I've got a > copy here; if you can't find it in the archives (recently, like < 6 > months) e-mail me and I'll send it to you. And if you want to figure out why a valid package still fail to enter testing, you can use http://

Re: Which packages will hold up the release?

2003-10-02 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 12:38:57PM +0200, Peter Makholm wrote: > Looking at the list of RC bugs the packages seems to fall in two > categories. Packages I don't use and packages I don't feel comfortable > in touching (glibc being an example of the latter). Personally, I recommend getting over your

Re: Which packages will hold up the release?

2003-10-02 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Do, den 02.10.2003 schrieb Peter Makholm um 12:38: > - Gnome > - KDE I just wondered how far your understanding of these goes? Only the base environment, or also those applications that don't really belong to - for example - the official Gnome distribution, but are needed to make the com

Looking for a maintainer for pyslsk

2003-10-02 Thread Alex Kanavin
I'm seeking for someone who'd be willing to maintain pyslsk package in debian. It's a p2p client for Soulseek filesharing network (which is great for finding obscure music), written in Python/wxPython. It was maintained by Josselin Mouette ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), but recently he replaced pyslsk with a

Re: Which packages will hold up the release?

2003-10-02 Thread Joachim Breitner
Am Do, den 02.10.2003 schrieb Joachim Breitner um 16:55: > I just wondered how far your understanding of these goes? Uh. Please don't get it wrong, and consider the .de in my mail address. I am not at all saying that you don't understand something. Merely, I wonder what you _meant_ by this. The ex

Re: local Release

2003-10-02 Thread Marcos Dione
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 05:49:47AM -0400, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: > On Wed, 2003-10-01 at 16:22, Marcos Dione wrote: > > 'frankie', where I have my apps debs and symlinks to the versions I want > > E: Release 'farnkie' for 'galeon' not found > > frankie != farnkie > > could that be what's wrong

Maintainers, please be kind to your package(s) translators

2003-10-02 Thread Christian Perrier
The closer sarge release is, the higher the problem I'll write about below becomes annoying. When we are close to a release, most package maintainers focus on what I call "package polishing" besides tracking down all remaining bugs. That's perfectly respectable and certainly a Good Thing. Fine. T

Re: Which packages will hold up the release?

2003-10-02 Thread Peter Makholm
Joachim Breitner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Am Do, den 02.10.2003 schrieb Peter Makholm um 12:38: >> - Gnome >> - KDE > > I just wondered how far your understanding of these goes? Only the base > environment, or also those applications that don't really belong to - > for example - the officia

Re: Re: Where are we now? (Was: Bits from the RM)

2003-10-02 Thread Nathanael Nerode
> And as aptitude is kinda useable it might >well replace dselect as the recommended method. Please don't do this yet, since dselect is still more self-documenting, and therefore easier for new people to use. :-P

Re: Which packages will hold up the release?

2003-10-02 Thread Chris Halls
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 07:12:52PM +0200, Peter Makholm wrote: > We didn't have OpenOffice at last release and it doesn't seem to be in > unstable yet. 'apt-cache search openoffice' only find myspell > dictionaries. It's in contrib, package openoffice.org. It is scheduled to move into main around

Re: Which packages will hold up the release?

2003-10-02 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 12:38:57PM +0200, Peter Makholm wrote: > There are some packages we should have if we want Debian to be a > general purpose distribution. I guess we can have a long flamewar > about which packages this includes and in the end it is the release > manager's decission but it is

Re: Re: Where are we now? (Was: Bits from the RM)

2003-10-02 Thread Chris Jantzen
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 01:14:25PM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > > And as aptitude is kinda useable it might > >well replace dselect as the recommended method. > > Please don't do this yet, since dselect is still more self-documenting, > and therefore easier for new people to use. :-P Easier

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Re: Which packages will hold up the release?

2003-10-02 Thread Chris Cheney
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 12:38:57PM +0200, Peter Makholm wrote: > I believe this is the bugs it would be most effective to actack when > the packages I'm personally directly interested in. It can be hard to > look at the RC-list and decide if the time is better spend fixing > libtse3, libvorbisfile3

Re: Re: Where are we now? (Was: Bits from the RM)

2003-10-02 Thread Robert Lemmen
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 01:14:25PM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > Please don't do this yet, since dselect is still more self-documenting, > and therefore easier for new people to use. :-P please do! dselect (whil ebeing verty simple and functional) has the most counter-intuitive user interface

Re: Which packages will hold up the release?

2003-10-02 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 07:12:52PM +0200, Peter Makholm wrote: > Joachim Breitner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Am Do, den 02.10.2003 schrieb Peter Makholm um 12:38: > >> - Gnome > >> - KDE > > I just wondered how far your understanding of these goes? Only the base > > environment, or also th

Re: Re: Where are we now? (Was: Bits from the RM)

2003-10-02 Thread Ervin Hearn III
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 10:50:09AM -0700, Chris Jantzen wrote: > On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 01:14:25PM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > > > And as aptitude is kinda useable it might > > >well replace dselect as the recommended method. > > > > Please don't do this yet, since dselect is still more self

Re: Re: Where are we now? (Was: Bits from the RM)

2003-10-02 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 02:27:48PM -0400, Ervin Hearn III wrote: > On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 10:50:09AM -0700, Chris Jantzen wrote: > > > > Easier for new people to use?!? > > > > /me rolls off chair laughing. > > > > I sincerely hope the ":-P" means you are using sarcasm. > > > > Quite seriousl

Re: Which packages will hold up the release?

2003-10-02 Thread Björn Stenberg
Steve Langasek wrote: > What's hard to see at a glance is how large collections of packages are > interrelated in their dependencies. Many packages that you *don't* use > may be having a direct effect on the packages you *do* use as a result > of their bugginess. I'd like to be able to make as mu

Re: Re: Where are we now? (Was: Bits from the RM)

2003-10-02 Thread David Nusinow
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 01:14:25PM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > > And as aptitude is kinda useable it might > >well replace dselect as the recommended method. > > Please don't do this yet, since dselect is still more self-documenting, > and therefore easier for new people to use. :-P What's

Re: Maintainers, please be kind to your package(s) translators

2003-10-02 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Christian Perrier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > The closer sarge release is, the higher the problem I'll write about > below becomes annoying. BTW, folks, sorry for having written so badly.I realize that my english wasn't really good this morningI really shouldn't try to write good englis

Re: Re: Where are we now? (Was: Bits from the RM)

2003-10-02 Thread Chris Cheney
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 08:31:08PM +0200, Robert Lemmen wrote: > On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 01:14:25PM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > > Please don't do this yet, since dselect is still more self-documenting, > > and therefore easier for new people to use. :-P > > please do! dselect (whil ebeing v

Re: Where are we now? (Was: Bits from the RM)

2003-10-02 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 08:36:50AM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: > * Steve Langasek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > It's been noted several times that the end of the 0-day NMU period was > > accompanied by a marked reversal in the RC bug graph. I think it's time > > for a group debriefing of this exp

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2003-10-02 Thread Jan Borgers
Package: general Severity: important greetings, jan PS this is my first bugreport, sorry if I should have pointed it to a package, but I just don't know which one causes the problem...

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Re: Re: Where are we now? (Was: Bits from the RM)

2003-10-02 Thread Joey Hess
Chris Cheney wrote: > From what I have heard about aptitude it has the fun side effect of > removing packages that it thinks you didn't purposely install. After telling you it will and waiting for you to look over the list of changes, sure. I have never seen this be a problem. It will also not aff

Re: Which packages will hold up the release?

2003-10-02 Thread Joey Hess
Joachim Breitner wrote: > > - Gnome > > - KDE > > I just wondered how far your understanding of these goes? Only the base > environment, or also those applications that don't really belong to - I think that the equivilant metapackages are a good first step. Pity that one of them has still not m

Re: Re: Where are we now? (Was: Bits from the RM)

2003-10-02 Thread Steve Greenland
On 02-Oct-03, 16:10 (CDT), Chris Cheney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From what I have heard about aptitude it has the fun side effect of > removing packages that it thinks you didn't purposely install. [and] > Further, if recommends/suggests are on how does a user manage to only > install standard

A new way to specify versionned dependencies may be needed

2003-10-02 Thread Nicolas Boullis
Hi, One package of mine needs to conflict with a few consecutive versions of a package. Let's say that the package foo introduced a feature that conflicts with my package in version A and removed it in version B. So I'd like my package to conflict with versions A to B of foo. I tried to specif

Re: Which packages will hold up the release?

2003-10-02 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 07:23:36PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Joachim Breitner wrote: > > > - Gnome > > > - KDE > > > > I just wondered how far your understanding of these goes? Only the base > > environment, or also those applications that don't really belong to - > > I think that the equivilan

Re: The IPsec kernel problem

2003-10-02 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.10.03.0121 +0200]: > I have given you the reason for this many times already. Please > reread the thread on debian-devel carefully. This one post did in fact slip my eyes. In it, you mention some checks when it comes to patch inclusion. I have a p

Annoyances of aptitude (Was: Where are we now?) (Was: Bits from the RM)

2003-10-02 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Well, aptitude is certainly better than it used to be. At least now it's keystroke-compatible with dselect. I still find it less useful though. :-P -- Although aptitude uses only one fewer line of screen space for the list of packages, somehow it manages to have less information. The absence o

Re: Which packages will hold up the release?

2003-10-02 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 10:43:24PM +0200, Björn Stenberg wrote: > Steve Langasek wrote: > > What's hard to see at a glance is how large collections of packages are > > interrelated in their dependencies. Many packages that you *don't* use > > may be having a direct effect on the packages you *do*

Re: Where are we now? (Was: Bits from the RM)

2003-10-02 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 05:57:58AM +0100, Scott James Remnant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > I think it's fair to say that we're not going to reach the following > state within 14 days unless a miracle, or a hell of a lot of work > happens: I don't know about anyone else, but if we man

Re: Re: Where are we now? (Was: Bits from the RM)

2003-10-02 Thread Daniel Burrows
Hi, aptitude has a lot of problems that I don't have enough time to fix, but I would appreciate it if people would confine themselves to the facts when criticizing it. On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 04:10:21PM -0500, Chris Cheney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 08:31

Re: Where are we now? (Was: Bits from the RM)

2003-10-02 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 10:38:18PM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote: > On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 01:22:34PM +0100, Rob Bradford wrote: > > be fun though. I'm planning to only support upgrades from potato and > > woody. So that means i can remove all the cruft about upgrading from > > I was under the impr

Re: Annoyances of aptitude (Was: Where are we now?) (Was: Bits from the RM)

2003-10-02 Thread Daniel Burrows
As I indicated in a recent message, I don't currently have time to get aptitude working the way I'd like. Please consider this a public call for a codeveloper -- you can "interview" by submitting working patches for one of the issues below, particularly the ones I've outlined a fix for. (aptitu

Re: Re: Where are we now? (Was: Bits from the RM)

2003-10-02 Thread Chris Cheney
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 10:09:16PM -0400, Daniel Burrows wrote: > On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 04:10:21PM -0500, Chris Cheney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > was heard to say: > > I also don't think it is a particularly good idea for aptitude to > > default to installing suggests since it will likely bloat syste

Re: Re: Where are we now? (Was: Bits from the RM)

2003-10-02 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:59:58PM -0500, Chris Cheney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 10:09:16PM -0400, Daniel Burrows wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 04:10:21PM -0500, Chris Cheney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > was heard to say: > > > I also don't think it is a part

Re: Re: Where are we now? (Was: Bits from the RM)

2003-10-02 Thread Chris Cheney
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 11:09:29PM -0400, Daniel Burrows wrote: > On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:59:58PM -0500, Chris Cheney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > was heard to say: > > On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 10:09:16PM -0400, Daniel Burrows wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 04:10:21PM -0500, Chris Cheney <[EMAIL