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2003-09-01 Thread Nugroho Nursuwito

Re: MEI Whitelist Autoresponse

2003-09-01 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 10:51:06AM +1000, Andrew Pollock ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 01:45:18PM +0300, Richard Braakman wrote: > > > > I think virus scanners are in a different class, though. Mailing list > > software isn't designed to recognize viruses, while virus scan

Re: overwriting files from modules packages

2003-09-01 Thread Bob Proulx
martin f krafft wrote: > I am the (new) maintainer of bcm5700-source, a modules package for > the broadcom gigabit adapter. The final package, > bcm5700-module-${KVERS}, includes a manpage, > /usr/share/man/man4/bcm5700.4.gz. I just now ran into the problem > that while installing the 2.4.22 image

Re: where to install additional kernel modules?

2003-09-01 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Christoph Hellwig | > No need to Cc me, BTW. | | Then setup your headers properly.. What's wrong with his headers? The default on Debian mailing lists is to not Cc posters. Please read the mailing list docs on lists.d.o if you haven't already. -- Tollef Fog Heen

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-09-01 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 04:27:57PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > "Marcelo E. Magallon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [resorted by size] > > architecture |size > > --+ > > i386 | 3378532922 > > ia64 | 3394287226 > And people allways say that 64

Virus Found in message "Re: Your application"

2003-09-01 Thread milan . das
Symantec AntiVirus found a virus in an attachment you () sent to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. To ensure the recipient(s) are able to use the files you sent, perform a virus scan on your computer, clean any infected files, then resend this attachment. Attachment: movie0045.pif Virus name: [EMAIL PR

Re: "non-free" software included in contrib

2003-09-01 Thread Craig Sanders
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 09:47:46AM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote: > Ah, reductio ad absurdum. Such a wonderful means of demonstrating that you > can't think up a decent argument, so you'll take something to it's illogical > extreme to try and scare some people. more accurately, it is a useful tool

Re: overwriting files from modules packages

2003-09-01 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Bob Proulx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.09.01.0853 +0200]: > Abbreviated example: > > make-pkg --append-to-version -2-686-smp kernel_modules > > Produces: > > /usr/share/man/man4/bcm5700-2-4-21-2-686-smp.4.gz Not by default. I could make that happen manually though, which is what I

Re: "non-free" software included in contrib

2003-09-01 Thread Cameron Patrick
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 09:47:46AM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote: | > When your conclusion is at odds with reality you should rethink your | > argument... if Debian was to start classifying packages based on | > the probable or possible results of using the package, instead of | > the code in the pa

Bug#208204: ITP: libuniversal-moniker-perl -- Nicer names for your Perl modules/classes

2003-09-01 Thread Stephen Quinney
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-09-01 Severity: wishlist * Package name: libuniversal-moniker-perl Version : 0.03 Upstream Author : Marty Pauley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tony Bowden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://search.cpan.org/author/KASEI/UNIVERSAL

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-09-01 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"Marcelo E. Magallon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 12:56:19PM -0700, Joshua Kwan wrote: > > > > [alpha]7283 > > > [i386] 7889 > > > > I'd not include non-free in the batch because many non-free on i386 are > > i386 only, i.e. binary driver installers. > >

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-09-01 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 04:27:57PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > "Marcelo E. Magallon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [resorted by size] > > > architecture |size > > > --+ > > > i386 | 3378532922 > > > i

Re: LWN subscription for Debian developers

2003-09-01 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 04:33:22PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > Bdale Garbee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > Hello. > > > > > > Last October, I announced a group subscription to lwn.net for Debian > > > developers, sponsored by HP.

Re: LWN subscription for Debian developers

2003-09-01 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 31 Aug 2003, Dan Jacobson wrote: > Bdale> ... I announced a group subscription to lwn.net for Debian > Bdale> developers, sponsored by HP... > > Debian may be seen as supporting non-disclosure conditions / > protected proprietary information / trade secrets / etc. whatever. You should be

Re: LWN subscription for Debian developers

2003-09-01 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 12:22:48PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 04:33:22PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > > What about NMs? > > > > Wait until you can drop the N, I guess. > > So I can have a LWN subscription

Re: "non-free" installer packages in our supposedly Free sections.

2003-09-01 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 31 Aug 2003, Tore Anderson wrote: > * Ola Lundqvist > > Contrib is a perfectly ok place for installers. > > I disagree. If I have contrib in my sources.list file, and try > to install a package from there, I expect only Free software to > be installed on my system. That means I shou

you sent me a virus. Please check your system

2003-09-01 Thread whimsy
On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 4:28:34 --0700, you wrote: >See the attached file for details

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-09-01 Thread Richard Braakman
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 12:19:36PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > How much space do those 500 odd packages take up? > > Given a 50% sizce increase on binaries alpha should have another 1.8G > of debs. If those 500 packages make up 1.2G (+50%=1.8G) then the 50% > claim would be right. You're

Bug#208218: ITP: nagios-plugins -- Plugins for the nagios network monitoring and management system

2003-09-01 Thread Guido Trotter
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-09-01 Severity: wishlist * Package name: nagios-plugins Version : 1.3.1 Upstream Author : Various (will all be listed in copyright file) * URL : http://nagiosplug.sourceforge.net/ * License : GPL Description

Bug#208228: ITP: svn-devscripts -- Scripts that help to maintain Debian packages in a Subversion repository

2003-09-01 Thread Eduard Bloch
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-09-01 Severity: wishlist * Package name: svn-devscripts Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : myself * URL : http://people.debian.org/~blade/misc/svn-devscripts/ * License : GPL Description : helpers to maintain

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-09-01 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 12:19:36PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > How much space do those 500 odd packages take up? I really have no intention to peg the database up with a query like that. Here: $ zcat testing{,-proposed-updates}/main/binary-alpha/Packages.gz | grep-dctrl -n -s Pa

Re: "non-free" software included in contrib

2003-09-01 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Mathieu Roy dijo [Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 02:23:40PM +0200]: > So I do not agree that "Contrib is a ok place for installers". While > basically these installer are free software, it's a little bit > hypocritical to claim that these package contains free software. > > Finally, someone who install the

debian-devel@lists.debian.org

2003-09-01 Thread watchdog . rzbnotes
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Re: overwriting files from modules packages

2003-09-01 Thread Bob Proulx
martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Bob Proulx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.09.01.0853 +0200]: > > Abbreviated example: > > make-pkg --append-to-version -2-686-smp kernel_modules > > Produces: > > /usr/share/man/man4/bcm5700-2-4-21-2-686-smp.4.gz > > Not by default. I could make that happen manu

Re: "non-free" software included in contrib

2003-09-01 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Sunday, Aug 31, 2003, at 14:47 US/Eastern, Bruce Sass wrote: contrib would disappear and a case could be made to place all editors in non-free because they can be used to create non-free stuff. That's silly. There is a difference between "package automatically brings in non-free stuff" and "pac

Re: Accepted galeon 1.3.7.20030825-1 (i386 source)

2003-09-01 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 10:12:27PM +0200, JG wrote: > In gnome2 there is also something called "gnome-settings-dameon". I > don't know exactly what it is used for, but at least the "theme" > preferences use it. (i.e. without gnome-settings-daemon running, all > applications are in the default

I am out of the office

2003-09-01 Thread Brian V. Smith
I am out of the office from August 25 until September 3. I will read your mail when I return.

vrms and contrib installers (was: Re: "non-free" software included in contrib)

2003-09-01 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Monday, Sep 1, 2003, at 12:38 US/Eastern, Gunnar Wolf wrote: He might even be running vrms - and vrms will not complain about the non-free software he has installed! Then file a bug report (on vrms). Perhaps it'd even be useful if installer packages somehow marked that they've installed non-fre

Re: "non-free" installer packages in our supposedly Free sections.

2003-09-01 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Sunday, Aug 31, 2003, at 07:13 US/Eastern, Tore Anderson wrote: I don't like the fact that these seem to be (randomly) scattered over main and contrib. Although the installer packages themselves certainly are Free, I feel the social contract is being violated when I have main and contrib i

Re: GDM in sid does not read /etc/environment anymore

2003-09-01 Thread Daniel Ruoso
There is a patch posted to this bug that grep /etc/environment looking for LANG=*, and then export just the LANG... Em Dom, 2003-08-31 às 10:47, Petter Reinholdtsen escreveu: > [Daniel Ruoso] > > I've actually sent him an email but got no answer. I've posted in > > debian-devel few days ago and no

Re: "non-free" software included in contrib

2003-09-01 Thread Bruce Sass
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003, Cameron Patrick wrote: > On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 09:47:46AM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote: > > | > When your conclusion is at odds with reality you should rethink your > | > argument... if Debian was to start classifying packages based on > | > the probable or possible results of

Re: LWN subscription for Debian developers

2003-09-01 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 10:42:51AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Sun, 31 Aug 2003, Dan Jacobson wrote: > > Bdale> ... I announced a group subscription to lwn.net for Debian > > Bdale> developers, sponsored by HP... > > > > Debian may be seen as supporting non-disclosure conditions

Re: "non-free" installer packages in our supposedly Free sections.

2003-09-01 Thread Tore Anderson
* Tore Anderson >> Although the installer packages themselves certainly are Free, >> I feel the social contract is being violated when I have main and >> contrib in my sources.list file, but after having completed the >> installation of a package from these sections, non-free software >>

Re: New release of ifupdown planned

2003-09-01 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 14:14:13 +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: >On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 09:36:31PM +0200, Thomas Hood wrote: >> Since the maintainer of ifupdown doesn't answer repeated attempts >> to contact him by e-mail, I suppose it is appropriate to report >> here that there is a group of people wor

Re: "non-free" software included in contrib

2003-09-01 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Bruce Sass wrote: >Exactly. What if a generalised DFSG-free software installer used a >separate config file to download, debianize (using dh_make templates), >then install the resulting package (most of it non-free because such a >scheme should not be necessary for fre

Re: vrms and contrib installers (was: Re: "non-free" software included in contrib)

2003-09-01 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 02:00:58PM -0400, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: > > On Monday, Sep 1, 2003, at 12:38 US/Eastern, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > > >He might even be running vrms - and vrms > >will not complain about the non-free software he has installed! > > Then file a bug report (on vrms). Perhaps i

Re: setgid crontab

2003-09-01 Thread Steve Greenland
On 17-Aug-03, 17:11 (CDT), Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd hoped to get the suggestions here and Solar Designer's work > incorporated tested, and uploaded before I left on a 2 week vacation, > but I'm not going to get it done. But it *is* in progess, will be my > priority after I

Re: "non-free" software included in contrib

2003-09-01 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 09:47:46AM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote: > > > To address the original point, however: > > > I do believe that policy is correct in it's reasoning in this instance. By > > my understanding, packages go into contrib for one of th

Fwd: Processing of ferret_3.0-2_i386.changes

2003-09-01 Thread Brian White
What do I have to do to fix this problem? My key is valid, has been signed, and was uploaded to the keyserver via "gpg --send-keys". Why do I continue to get these messages? The only way I can upload packages is to use SSH to connect to ftp-master and then use wget to fetch the various files fro

Re: setgid crontab

2003-09-01 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 07:32:45PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > On 17-Aug-03, 17:11 (CDT), Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'd hoped to get the suggestions here and Solar Designer's work > > incorporated tested, and uploaded before I left on a 2 week vacation, > > but I'm not go

Bug#208313: RFA: alsa-xmms -- ALSA 0.9 output plugin for XMMS

2003-09-01 Thread Aaron M . Ucko
Package: wnpp Severity: normal Since I hardly ever listen to music on my computer these days except when testing this package, I should probably hand it over to somebody who uses it more actively. It's pretty low maintenance(*), so I'm content to keep it indefinitely; OTOH, that also means that i

Re: vrms and contrib installers (was: Re: "non-free" software included in contrib)

2003-09-01 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Monday, Sep 1, 2003, at 20:27 US/Eastern, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: Random package: Provides: non-free-installer vrms: Conflicts: non-free-installer No, because that's not how vrms works. vrms just mails you (once a month, I believe) which non-free packages are installed. It also informs

Re: "non-free" installer packages in our supposedly Free sections.

2003-09-01 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 02:07:28PM -0400, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: > I think it is reasonable to require that installer packages inform the > user they are about to install non-free software and give the user an > opportunity to review the license of that software before proceeding, > though.