"John H. Robinson, IV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> this is entirely off topic for -devel, let's move it to -politics or
> -curiosa or somewhere else more appropriate.
But you just _had_ to get your bitter little rant in first, huh?
-Miles
--
Ich bin ein Virus. Mach' mit und kopiere mich in Dei
On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 12:55:33PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
> On Wed, 21 May 2003 21:40:04 +1000, Craig small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >The flow reports come out in text and
> >show flow summaries (such as top n ASes, protocols, etc per m minutes).
> >NetFlow is a packet protocol that is used
On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 08:49:06PM -0500, Graham Wilson wrote:
> * Package name: yavipin
How does it differ from OpenVPN?
--
:(){ :|:&};:
On Sun, 25 May 2003, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> For python, you only need to declare Depends: python to ensure that python
> is installed and configured when your postinst runs.
Are you sure that the python interpreter is working if python is just installed
at the same time (apt-get run) in which Gnu
Hi, Andreas Tille wrote:
> 1. How to change the postgresql configuration in a way which just
> adds minimum off additional rights?
I'd say "don't". The user should be able to set up a new postgresql user
by themselves, or maybe they'd like to reuse an existing account, or maybe
they want t
On Mon, 26 May 2003, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
> Hi, Andreas Tille wrote:
>
> > 1. How to change the postgresql configuration in a way which just
> > adds minimum off additional rights?
>
> I'd say "don't". The user should be able to set up a new postgresql user
> by themselves, or maybe they
Enrico Zini wrote:
> On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 09:55:33PM -0400, David B Harris wrote:
>
> > http://www.debian.org/devel/, "Projects" section:
> >
> > * Debian Web Pages
> [...]
> > * Alioth: Debian GForge
> > Certainly seems that they're listed.
>
> The Debian Usability Research seems to
Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm perplexed about the mailing list request about Exim.
As Marc already noted this special request should simply be ignored
now, we have alioth now and currently there isn't much traffic on
exim4debian.
> On one hand, exim is an important package, and the
Andreas Tille (2003-05-25 21:56:04 +0200) :
> For the next problem I have no real clue for a solution. The
> bootstrap method does access the database as the newly created user
> this requires a change of the PostgreSQL configuration.
[...]
> Now I would llike to know the following two things:
Bernd Eckenfels wrote:
> On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 11:03:36PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
> > but on the other hand, there's alioth.debian.org which allows for easier
> > creation and maintenance of per-package mailing lists.
>
> we should generally decide to migrate (all) mailinglists, or only create
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 10:03:38AM -0700, John H. Robinson, IV wrote:
> that north america contains not one, but three countries: Candada, USA,
> and Mexico
Candada? Is that near Canadia?
--Adam
--
Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Marc Haber (2003-05-25 23:53:31 +0200) :
> We actually discussed on the internal exim mailing list whether to
> move the existing mailing list to alioth and decided against doing
> so for lack of a web archive.
Point of information: lists on Alioth are managed by Mailman, which
does provide a web
On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 12:05:02AM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
> On Sun, 25 May 2003, Sven Luther wrote:
>
> > > So let me get this straight. Instead of a country where people are
> > > occasionally subject to bureaucratic hassles, (assuming Russell and
> > > Geordies' sources amount to anythin
reopen 190302
thanks
Hi!
imagemagick (4:5.5.7.3-1) unstable; urgency=low
* New upstream version.
* Upstream fix: closes: #194306, #129990, #161422, #186610
* This is not ImageMagick bug. : closes: #190302
-- Ryuichi Arafune <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fri, 23 May 2003 20:44:23 +0900
On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 11:16:51AM +0200, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
> You are plainly misusing your changelog for closing #190302. This has
> *nothing* to do in the changelog, there are no *changes* in this upload
> that address this. Rather send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] explaining why
> you close
On Mon, 2003-05-26 at 08:19, Andreas Tille wrote:
> Thus the postgresql server has to allow connections of non system users
> from localhost and also from other hosts (GnuMed clients) in the next step
> while keeping the possibility to authenticate via ident.
In 7.3, you can specify connection/da
On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 09:56:04PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> The bootstrap routine creates a postgres user where the user is
> asked for a password. I would like to ask via debconf for the
> password. Is there any method to access the debconf database with
> Python? Currently I have the plan
Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a tapoté :
> On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 11:16:51AM +0200, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
> > You are plainly misusing your changelog for closing #190302. This has
> > *nothing* to do in the changelog, there are no *changes* in this upload
> > that address th
On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 01:17:23PM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote:
> > I really don't see the point in this. Submitters always have a copy of their
> > report, so they have evrything they need.
> > "New upstream closes: #1, #2, #3" implyes an update of the upstream
> > changelog
> > file so it's worth o
On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 04:58:01AM -0500, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis wrote:
> On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 11:16:51AM +0200, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
[...]
> > Btw., your line for "Upstream fix: closes:" is not very helpful for the
> > bug submitters neither. They'd have to check their records to see
On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 01:56:27PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > > I really don't see the point in this. Submitters always have a copy of
> > > their
> > > report, so they have evrything they need.
> > > "New upstream closes: #1, #2, #3" implyes an update of the upstream
> > > changelog
> > >
On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 02:26:10PM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote:
> Which does not help everybody else at all, who have just
> the meaningless changelog and are using apt-listchanges to read it
> before installation.
I don't see even this: are you warried about grave bugs? Use apt-listbugs.
BTW, yo
On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 02:45:16PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
> Yes, but there's still no bloody point in making the submitter hunt around
> for information that the maintainer already knows and for which it takes
> them full 10 seconds per bug to list (15 if they type very slowly).
Submitter recei
Andreas,
> For the next problem I have no real clue for a solution. The
> bootstrap method does access the database as the newly created user
> this requires a change of the PostgreSQL configuration. To make the
> problem clear look at the following shell script:
>
>#!/bin/sh
>TUSER=myt
* Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-05-16 13:33]:
> Such a package should be as close to possible to the version actually
> in testing, and not depend on packages and/or versions that are not
> yet in testing.
So, you request more or less that every developer should backport fixes
thems
On Sunday, May 25, 2003, at 08:10 PM, Jonathan Oxer wrote:
Maybe a reasonable compromise would be to have 2 'official' debconfs /
year, as 'Debconf North' and 'Debconf South' (as in Northern and
Southern hemisphere).
I've got no problem with this. I wouldn't really even have any problem
with a De
On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 08:12:51AM -0500, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis wrote:
> On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 02:45:16PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
> > Yes, but there's still no bloody point in making the submitter hunt
> > around for information that the maintainer already knows and for
> > which it ta
On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 08:12:51AM -0500, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis wrote:
> > Yes, but there's still no bloody point in making the submitter hunt around
> > for information that the maintainer already knows and for which it takes
> > them full 10 seconds per bug to list (15 if they type very
On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 11:03:36PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
> I'm perplexed about the mailing list request about Exim.
> On one hand, exim is an important package, and there are already ample
> precedents like debian-apache, debian-ssh and debian-tetex-maint;
> but on the other hand, there's aliot
On Mon, 26 May 2003 23:43, Joe Drew wrote:
> On Sunday, May 25, 2003, at 08:10 PM, Jonathan Oxer wrote:
> > Maybe a reasonable compromise would be to have 2 'official' debconfs /
> > year, as 'Debconf North' and 'Debconf South' (as in Northern and
> > Southern hemisphere).
>
> I've got no problem
On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 03:24:49PM +0200, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
> * Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-05-16 13:33]:
> > Such a package should be as close to possible to the version actually
> > in testing, and not depend on packages and/or versions that are not
> > yet in testing.
>
> S
Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a tapoté :
> On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 11:03:36PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
> > I'm perplexed about the mailing list request about Exim.
> > On one hand, exim is an important package, and there are already ample
> > precedents like debian-apache, debian-ssh and deb
how can i make my own profile
Hi!
On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 08:12:51AM -0500, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis wrote:
> On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 02:45:16PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
> > Yes, but there's still no bloody point in making the submitter hunt around
> > for information that the maintainer already knows and for which it t
* Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-05-26 13:12]:
> Submitter receive a mail from bts which include the message that opened the
> bug: what should he hunt for exactly?
Not only does the mail from bts _not_ include the message (like you
were told by others already), also oth
* Kai Henningsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-05-24 15:10]:
> * Package name: libemail-mime-encodings-perl
> Version : 1.0
> Upstream Author : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> * URL :
> http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/S/SI/SIMON/Email-MIME-Encodings-1.0.tar.gz
> * License
* Gustavo Noronha Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-05-24 05:48]:
> Does this mean that the, IMHO brain-dead, 24-color limit has
> been droped?
>
>>From menu's changelog:
>
>> * No more require icons to use the colors from cmap.xpm.
>> Closes:#193231, #175430, #192218, #97080
>> * No more i
On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 02:37:21PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> Perhaps the submitter might like to know what was changed to fix the
> bug? I don't know about you, but I usually actually go and confirm the
> fix rather than blindly accepting it.
I don't know you, but i usually actually go and read
On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 05:15:48PM +0200, Philipp Matthias Hahn wrote:
> Example:
> 1. detect bug
> 2. run reportbug
> 3. sees, other person was faster and reported bug 42.
> 4. wait for new version
> 5. read changlog
> 6. what the heck was bug 42, was it mine ?
$ w3m http://bugs.debian.org/42
I'm
Hi,
Am Mon, 2003-05-26 um 17.15 schrieb Philipp Matthias Hahn:
> Or do you expect everbody to file duplicate bugs or subscribe to
> existing bugs ?
AFAIK you can't subscribe to single bugs (at least I was told that a few
month ago). But this is one thing I'd like to change at debcamp in
Oslo...
Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a tapoté :
> On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 05:15:48PM +0200, Philipp Matthias Hahn wrote:
> > Example:
> > 1. detect bug
> > 2. run reportbug
> > 3. sees, other person was faster and reported bug 42.
> > 4. wait for new version
> > 5. read changlog
> >
Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 02:26:10PM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote:
>> Which does not help everybody else at all, who have just
>> the meaningless changelog and are using apt-listchanges to read it
>> before installation.
> I don't see even
On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 08:39:01AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> On Sun, 25 May 2003, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
>
> > For python, you only need to declare Depends: python to ensure that
> > python is installed and configured when your postinst runs.
> Are you sure that the python interpreter is worki
On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 02:26:10PM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote:
> On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 04:58:01AM -0500, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis
> wrote:
> > On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 11:16:51AM +0200, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
> [...]
> > > Btw., your line for "Upstream fix: closes:" is not very helpful fo
On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 08:08:28AM -0500, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis wrote:
> On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 02:26:10PM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote:
> > Which does not help everybody else at all, who have just
> > the meaningless changelog and are using apt-listchanges to read it
> > before installa
On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 11:04:42AM -0500, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis wrote:
> On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 05:15:48PM +0200, Philipp Matthias Hahn wrote:
> > Example:
> > 1. detect bug
> > 2. run reportbug
> > 3. sees, other person was faster and reported bug 42.
> > 4. wait for new version
> > 5.
Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I really don't see the point in this. Submitters always have a copy of their
> report, so they have evrything they need.
> "New upstream closes: #1, #2, #3" implyes an update of the upstream changelog
> file so it's worth of checking: li
On Mon, 26 May 2003 09:15:30 +0200, Andreas Metzler
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>It would be nice if there were documented mechanisms to move a list
>/painlessly/ from alioth to lists and vice versa, i.e. keeping the
>subscriber list and redirections for the old list addresses.
I would like to see
On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 03:36:39PM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
> On Sat, 24 May 2003, Adam Majer wrote:
>
> > PS. Personally, I would prefer to travel for a DebConf in
> > Cuba than in US. Really.
>
> So let me get this straight. Instead of a country where people are
> occasionally subject to
On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 08:42:52AM +0300, Tommi Virtanen wrote:
> On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 08:49:06PM -0500, Graham Wilson wrote:
> > * Package name: yavipin
>
> How does it differ from OpenVPN?
nothing, apparently. i will play with both in the next couple of days
and see if i still thin
On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 01:13:06PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> A changelog entry which says only Closes: # is worthless; it is the
> same as leaving the changelog empty and closing the bug by hand.
We are not speaking of a generic line with a "Closes: #1..."; we are speaking
of one of the most
On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 09:25:42PM +0200, Yann Dirson wrote:
> Matt wrote:
> > The ideal solution would be to be able to share tarballs between source
> > packages. Then, all of the kernel-image packages could be built as if
> > they had a complete kernel source tree as their source package (whic
On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 08:48:23AM -0500, X Strike Force SVN Admin wrote:
> Author: daniel
> Date: 2003-05-26 08:48:12 -0500 (Mon, 26 May 2003)
> New Revision: 69
>
> Modified:
>branches/4.3.0/sid/debian/control
> Log:
> Changed references to libstdc++5-dev to libstdc++5-dev | libstdc++-dev,
Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
Now that GNOME (via pango) and KDE (via the upcoming Qt 3.2.0) have viable
support, I wonder if there is any interest in a sub-project for increasing
I have only noticed Tamil support so far, at least in KDE and GNOME. Do
I need to get any packages at all to enable the Devna
Matt wrote:
> The ideal solution would be to be able to share tarballs between source
> packages. Then, all of the kernel-image packages could be built as if they
> had a complete kernel source tree as their source package (which simplifies
> things a lot), and yet we would only need one such tarb
Matt wrote:
> It would be a significant gain if kernel modules could always be built
> against kernel-headers, without requiring full kernel-source.
Since recently there are also kernel-build packages, which appear to
be made precisely for that. I take it to mean the kernel-headers
packages have
On Mon, 26 May 2003, Harshwardhan Nagaonkar wrote:
> I have only noticed Tamil support so far, at least in KDE and GNOME. Do
> I need to get any packages at all to enable the Devnagri languages like
> Hindi and Marathi. If so, I would be grateful if you could list them.
For GNOME check out www.in
On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 01:36:15PM -0500, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis wrote:
> On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 01:13:06PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> > A changelog entry which says only Closes: # is worthless; it is the
> > same as leaving the changelog empty and closing the bug by hand.
>
> We are
Herbert wrote:
> * The kernel-source binary contains all bug fixes as is. Guido raised
> a good point that if we separated the patches from the kernel-source, then
> users may miss out on the bug fixes. This is especially important in light
> of the current speed of upstream releases.
>
> * The
* Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030526 21:41]:
> > On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 01:13:06PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> > > A changelog entry which says only Closes: # is worthless; it is the
> > > same as leaving the changelog empty and closing the bug by hand.
> >
> > We are not speaking of a
Arnd wrote:
> Ok, but I still would love to see single patches instead of one big
> patch containing all the common stuff. You can't really avoid
> situations where you want a patch on all architectures except one or
> two. This may be either because a patch breaks on one architecture
> (which shou
Matt wrote:
> The part you seem to have missed is the distinction between a source package
> and a binary package in what I wrote above.
Not completely, although the time between reading and answering did
not help me to be 100% clear with this :)
> I do not think this is a practical idea to work
Em Mon, 26 May 2003 04:58:01 -0500, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis <[EMAIL
PROTECTED]> escreveu:
> > Btw., your line for "Upstream fix: closes:" is not very helpful for the
> > bug submitters neither. They'd have to check their records to see what
> > this bug really was. Please add informations
Branden Robinson writes:
> Questions for debian-{x,devel}:
>
> 1) Should libstdc++-dev dependencies be made "artificially" strict in
> packages destined for sid so that it's harder for packages built
> against, say, libstdc++3 to accidentally sneak in and start regressing
> the C++ ABI transition
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gerfried Fuchs) wrote on 26.05.03 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Please, don't simply massfile ITPs without thinking on their impact and
> without any deeper informations
Please don't assume someone jasn't thought about something just because
you haven't been personally info
On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 11:00:34AM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
> But the pristine kernel source and the Debian patch are already available
> to the architecture maintainers:
>
> apt-get --tar-only source kernel-source-2.4.xx
> apt-get --diff-only source kernel-source-2.4.xx
>
> So I don't think hav
> "Gerfried" == Gerfried Fuchs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Gerfried> * Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-05-16
Gerfried> 13:33]:
>> Such a package should be as close to possible to the version
>> actually in testing, and not depend on packages and/or versions
>> that ar
On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 01:54:57PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> 1) Should libstdc++-dev dependencies be made "artificially" strict in
> packages destined for sid so that it's harder for packages built
> against, say, libstdc++3 to accidentally sneak in and start regressing
> the C++ ABI transit
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On Monday 26 May 2003 22:20, Yann Dirson wrote:
> If you mean, whether it can handle something like "Architecture:
> !ia64, !hppa", well, not yet, although it could be done. But that
> would mean stopping the use of make-kpkg-level architecture suppo
Yann Dirson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Since recently there are also kernel-build packages, which appear to
> be made precisely for that. I take it to mean the kernel-headers
> packages have proven deficient in some way, but I probably missed many
> things - I am even under the impression the
On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 10:00:06PM +0200, Yann Dirson wrote:
>
> We could get around Guido's point mentionned above by having a list of
> default patches to apply, which would by default contain the debian
> patch.
Yes, but then the problem is that unsuspecting users could be
building kernels usi
Daniel Stone writes:
> On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 01:54:57PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> > 1) Should libstdc++-dev dependencies be made "artificially" strict in
> > packages destined for sid so that it's harder for packages built
> > against, say, libstdc++3 to accidentally sneak in and start reg
On Monday, May 26, 2003, at 02:54 PM, Branden Robinson wrote:
what
dependencies of -dev packages really mean. There are at least three
possibilities, and no Policy on which is controlling:
1) just what the package actually needs to install successfully (which
is usually nothing);
2) just packa
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
[Note: The package has already been uploaded. Sorry about this.]
* Package name: libsendmail-pmilter-perl
Version : 0.4.0-1
Upstream Author : Todd Vierling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL or Web page : http://www.duh.org/pmilter
* License : BSD
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
[Note: The package has already been uploaded. Sorry about this.]
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Version : 0.18-1
Upstream Author : Charles Ying <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL or Web page : http://sendmail-milter.sourceforge.net/
* License
On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 09:15:39AM -0400, Ben Collins wrote:
> Even that is little indicator. I know folks who's job has nothing to do
> with Debian, but they do more work than people who are paid to work on
> Debian. It's all about motivation, and no person is doing anything
> wrong. It's a person
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Version : 1.1.2
Upstream Author : Michael J. Wohlgemuth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://woogie.net/linksysmon/
* License : GPL
Description : Tool for m
On Mon, 26 May 2003, Zed Pobre wrote:
> I have written code (in Perl) that replicates much of the behaviour of
> adduser and deluser (down to command-line switch compatibility), but
> modifies user information in a LDAP database instead of flat files
> like /etc/passwd.
Erm, did you check over th
I demand that Andreas Metzler may or may not have written...
[snip]
> It really is no effort to write
> * new upstream version:
> - escape and de-escape lines starting with a dot correctly
> (Closes: #178492)
No argument there from me.
> instead of
> * new upstream version. (Closes: #178492)
On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 05:15:48PM +0200, Philipp Matthias Hahn wrote:
> On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 08:12:51AM -0500, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis
> wrote:
> > On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 02:45:16PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
> > > Yes, but there's still no bloody point in making the submitter hunt aro
On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 09:58:25PM +0200, Bernhard R. Link wrote:
> * Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030526 21:41]:
> > It is _not_ obvious, and "closes: #..." gives no clue to someone reading
> > the changelog what might have been changed. Internet access, knowledge
> > of debbugs, etc. are
On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 05:21:05PM +0200, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
> Not only does the mail from bts _not_ include the message (like you
> were told by others already), also other people reading the changelog
> might be interested in it. I for my part am. Is it really asked for too
> much to write _
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