Bug#171125: ITP: cdw -- A console tool for burning CD's CDW is an ncurses-base frontend for cdrecord and mkisofs.

2002-11-29 Thread Robert Nagy
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2002-11-29 Severity: wishlist * Package name: cdw Version : 0.1.4 Upstream Author : Balazs Varkonyi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://cdw.sourceforge.net * License : GPL Description : A console tool for burning

Re: New maintainer behaviour with NMU and LogJam's hijacking

2002-11-29 Thread martine
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 03:47:29AM +0100, Christian Surchi wrote: > Maybe I forgot something... maybe this episode could be seen as not so > important but it hit me strongly, in particular from the point of view > of my idea about Our Project and Our Work. > > I don't know if I'll take care furthe

Re: Pick a name, any name...

2002-11-29 Thread Jérôme Marant
Raphael Hertzog wrote: Le Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 01:57:16PM +0100, Jérôme Marant écrivait: I hope it is for packaging activities and debian-related stuff only. Not really. It is for any free software related project launched by a Debian developer (ie the project request should come from a Deb

Re: Pick a name, any name...

2002-11-29 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 29 Nov 2002 04:39, John H. Robinson, IV wrote: > Ben Armstrong wrote: > > Bah, that's what CNAME is for. > > that is _NOT_ what a CNAME is for. a CNAME is for when the hostname is > in a domain that is OUTSIDE of your control. > > ie: evil.debian.org -> www.msn.com = CNAME (we don't control

KDEE3 question

2002-11-29 Thread Michael Meskes
Hi, I was just being told that we won't get any KDE3 packages until the whole Debian project is moved to gcc 3.2. Is this correct? If so, why? And is there a timetable? Is it a problem to compile the packages with gcc 2.95? The matter of the fact is that almost all Debian/KDE users are already us

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-29 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
* Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-11-28 17:13]: > So maybe you click on the "Debian on CD" link, right? And from there on > the 4th bulletted link ("Download CD images using HTTP or FTP"), after > wading past unofficial minimal CD images, and learning what jigdo is. Because those options are

Re: Pick a name, any name...

2002-11-29 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 12:58:12PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 07:07:45AM -0500, H. S. Teoh wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 11:03:58AM +0100, Roland Mas wrote: > > > - Another idea I had was something along the lines of Debsmith or > > > Iansmith, to keep both the idea

Re: KDEE3 question

2002-11-29 Thread Tom Badran
On Friday 29 Nov 2002 9:12 am, Michael Meskes wrote: > Hi, > > I was just being told that we won't get any KDE3 packages until the > whole Debian project is moved to gcc 3.2. Is this correct? If so, why? > And is there a timetable? Is it a problem to compile the packages with > gcc 2.95? > > The ma

Re: Pick a name, any name...

2002-11-29 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 09:44:17AM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > And there's already a Sibelius as a commercial software project; stay > away from things that could raise trademark issues that way. I don't think the existence of a commercial product called Sibelius prevents us from naming our ma

Re: New maintainer behaviour with NMU and LogJam's hijacking

2002-11-29 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 03:47:29AM +0100, Christian Surchi wrote: > On 17 Nov 2002 Ari made a NMU for logjam 4.0.0+cvs.2002.11.17 and > another one a few days after that date, IIRC, without a note to me. > I was handling bugs for logjam, as you can see in BTS (#165281). Build > failure reported by

Re: KDEE3 question

2002-11-29 Thread Jérôme Marant
Tom Badran wrote: On Friday 29 Nov 2002 9:12 am, Michael Meskes wrote: Hi, I was just being told that we won't get any KDE3 packages until the whole Debian project is moved to gcc 3.2. Is this correct? If so, why? And is there a timetable? Is it a problem to compile the packages with gcc 2.95? T

apt-src - some ideas

2002-11-29 Thread Jon Kent
Hi, apt-src, good start, really like the fact that it figures out dependancies and creates .deb file once complete and is fairly easy to use. However, there are some things I would like to see added at some point if possible: 1) Option to compile dependances as opposed to automatically downloadi

Re: Bug#171116: ITP: tsclient -- GNOME2 frontend for rdesktop

2002-11-29 Thread Thorsten Sauter
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 01:09:51PM +1100, Andrew Lau wrote: > * Package name: tsclient > Version : 0.56 > Upstream Author : Erick Woods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > * URL : http://www.gnomepro.com/tsclient/ > * License : GPL Hi, there are now two open ITP's for the t

Re: location of UnicodeData.txt

2002-11-29 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Jim Penny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [021128 03:35]: > So, according to Branden, international standards are supposed to allow > debian the right to modify them and to distribute the modified versions. > Absent said permission, which is hardly ever going to be given, they > must be considered non-f

Did the Satie fire break WNPP updates?

2002-11-29 Thread Andrew Lau
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 11:22:07AM +0100, Thorsten Sauter wrote: > there are now two open ITP's for the tsclient program. Are they > different? > * #170400: ITP: tsclient -- Terminal Server Client - GNOME 2 rdesktop frontend > * #171116: ITP: tsclient -- GNOME2 frontend for rdesktop Dear Thor

Re: Bug#170400: ITP: tsclient -- Terminal Server Client - GNOME 2 rdesktop frontend

2002-11-29 Thread Andrew Lau
On Sun, Nov 24, 2002 at 12:21:00PM +0100, Thorsten Sauter wrote: > > * Package name: tsclient > thats the same like grdesktop, which was (before the fire) in > the non-us incoming directory. > Please see ITP: #164025. Ya, different GNOME 2 RDP client. May I suggest that both our packages inclu

Help with kernel source installation

2002-11-29 Thread Charles Garcia-Tobin
Hello all I'm trying to compile the linux-wlan drivers. To do so I need to have the kernel source installed. I am not new to linux, but I am new to debian and therefore I am a bit lost. I have installed it kernel 2.4.18bf. When building the wlan drivers I was asked for the

Re: automatic selection which kernel image to install

2002-11-29 Thread Jens Ruehmkorf
On Thu, 28 Nov 2002, sean finney wrote: > On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 06:45:21PM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > > Can you detect smp from non-smp kernel? > > i would guess not... Just count the processors in /proc/cpuinfo, here is an example: $ grep "^proc" /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 processor

Re: Help with kernel source installation

2002-11-29 Thread Andrew Lau
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 11:57:53AM -, Charles Garcia-Tobin wrote: > I'm trying to compile the linux-wlan drivers. To do so I need > to have the kernel source installed. I am not new to linux, but I am > new to debian and therefore I am a bit lost. I have installed it > kernel 2.4.18bf. W

Re: How to validate Debian woody CDs?

2002-11-29 Thread Vera Friederichs
On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 18:58:46 +0100 Richard Atterer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > First, mount the CD. Just working on the unmounted device doesn't > always seem to work. Then, try one of two things: > > cat /dev/cdrom | md5sum > > Apparently, this is preferable to "md5sum /dev/cdrom" because ca

Re: [Agnubis] Packaging Agnubis for Debian GNU/Linux

2002-11-29 Thread Andrew Lau
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 08:02:07AM +0100, Rapha?l Bordet wrote: > I've started an ITP for diacanvas a few time ago than is a > dependencies for agnubis. I want to do the same with agnubis when > the development is restarted. If you're interested by my project, we > could be work both on supporting

RE: Help with kernel source installation

2002-11-29 Thread Charles Garcia-Tobin
Hi Andrew Thanks for your e-mail and offering to help, it is very kind of you. >Dear Charles, > Could you please describe the linux-wlan drivers in a bit more >detail please. Can you give us a URL, are they proprietary modules, or >do they come included with the kernel source? Wh

Re: [Agnubis] Packaging Agnubis for Debian GNU/Linux

2002-11-29 Thread Amaya
Andrew Lau dijo: > Does this offer sound fair to you? He doesn't need to be a Developer (or even want to become one) in order to package Agnubis. Maybe you could be his mentor and/or sponsor, or help him find one, instead of making him go through NM? -- .''`.I'd like to fly, but

Re: Pick a name, any name...

2002-11-29 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 09:44:17AM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > > > - Another idea I had was something along the lines of Debsmith or > > > > Iansmith, to keep both the idea of Debian and the idea of the forge. > > > > Unfortunately, plenty of people are called that way. Any idea to > > >

reliable streams over UDP

2002-11-29 Thread Russell Coker
Do we have a library in Debian that provides reliable stream based communication over UDP? I want to be able to deal with asymetric links and end-points that change IP address so TCP won't work. Surely someone must have written something similar to TCP but implemented on top of UDP. Is such a

Re: Pick a name, any name...

2002-11-29 Thread Peter Mathiasson
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 02:15:05PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: > > And there's already a Sibelius as a commercial software project; stay > > away from things that could raise trademark issues that way. > > This isn't about our sourceforge fork package name, it's about the machine > name. I thought

Re: [Agnubis] Packaging Agnubis for Debian GNU/Linux

2002-11-29 Thread Andrew Lau
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 02:08:50PM +0100, Amaya wrote: > Andrew Lau dijo: > > Does this offer sound fair to you? > > He doesn't need to be a Developer (or even want to become one) in order > to package Agnubis. > > Maybe you could be his mentor and/or sponsor, or help him find one, > instead

Re: Bug#171116: ITP: tsclient -- GNOME2 frontend for rdesktop

2002-11-29 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 03:15:25PM +1100, Andrew Lau wrote: > On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 10:22:01PM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: > > How about: Windows Terminal Services (RDP) client for GNOME 2 > > Thanks for the comments Kamion. Kamion is me; Colin Walters is known on IRC as "walters". Cheers, --

Adopting base-passwd

2002-11-29 Thread Colin Watson
Since it's an essential package I figured I should mention this before acting: Wichert and I have agreed that I will be taking over maintenance of base-passwd. An upload will be in incoming by this weekend. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpejqdpExuh

Re: Bug#166311: roxen2: Roxen2 don't work with pike7.2

2002-11-29 Thread Turbo Fredriksson
Quoting Andrew Shirrayev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > 15:42:35 : -- > 0m 0.0s : Pike v7.2 release 340, Roxen WebServer 2.1.265_Debian-6 > : Loading pike modules ... Done [54.5ms] > : Loading roxen ... etc/modules/RXML.pmod/mo

Re: Bug#171116: ITP: tsclient -- GNOME2 frontend for rdesktop

2002-11-29 Thread Andrew Lau
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 01:43:27PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 03:15:25PM +1100, Andrew Lau wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 10:22:01PM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: > > > How about: Windows Terminal Services (RDP) client for GNOME 2 > > > > Thanks for the comments Kamion.

Re: Pick a name, any name...

2002-11-29 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 02:25:28PM +0100, Peter Mathiasson wrote: > > > And there's already a Sibelius as a commercial software project; stay > > > away from things that could raise trademark issues that way. > > > > This isn't about our sourceforge fork package name, it's about the machine > > na

Re: KDEE3 question

2002-11-29 Thread Michael Meskes
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 09:52:52AM +, Tom Badran wrote: > The plan as i understand it is to supply gcc 3.2 built packages once kde 3.1 > is released, and never supply gcc 2.95 ones in debian but since gcc 2.95 is still standard in Debian I guess the switch to 3.2 will take much longer than th

Re: KDEE3 question

2002-11-29 Thread Michael Meskes
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 11:07:15AM +0100, JÃrÃme Marant wrote: > AFAIK, both gcc-3.2 and binutils have to be checked on every > architecture and > the transition will start once all architectures are ready for the > transition. And of course we have to create a plan for this transition before we

Re: apt-src - some ideas

2002-11-29 Thread Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo
El día 29 nov 2002, Jon Kent escribía: > Hi, > > apt-src, good start, really like the fact that it > figures out dependancies and creates .deb file once > complete and is fairly easy to use. > > However, there are some things I would like to see > added at some point if possible: > > 1) Option t

Re: Bug#166311: roxen2: Roxen2 don't work with pike7.2

2002-11-29 Thread Turbo Fredriksson
Sorry, to tired. Just did a reply, didn't see where it was going... -- radar Nazi plutonium strategic pits toluene Delta Force counter-intelligence Serbian Uzi AK-47 Noriega colonel Waco, Texas Iran [See http://www.aclu.org/echelonwatch/index.html for more about this]

Re: Help with kernel source installation

2002-11-29 Thread Matthew Garrett
In chiark.mail.debian.devel, you wrote: >Dear Charles, > Could you please describe the linux-wlan drivers in a bit more >detail please. Can you give us a URL, are they proprietary modules, or >do they come included with the kernel source? What brand, model? They're an alterative set of driv

Re: KDEE3 question

2002-11-29 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 03:05:46PM +0100, Michael Meskes wrote: > Frankly, I can see the transition taking some more time, but still fail > to see a good reason for not compiling KDE3 on gcc 2.95 as this > definitely works or else there wouldn't be a single KDE3 for woody > package on kde.org. The

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-29 Thread Joey Hess
Josip Rodin wrote: > Yes, there is. The debian-cd mirrors on our list are very diverse: some have > 2.2r*, some have 3.0r*, some don't have full ISOs at all. Expecting > debian-www team to start making grossly hackish scripts to compensate for > whatever the hell people put in debian-cd/ directorie

Re: KDEE3 question

2002-11-29 Thread Paul Cupis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 29 November 2002 09:12, Michael Meskes wrote: > The matter of the fact is that almost all Debian/KDE users are already > using ftp.kde.org to get the KDE packages. Um, how do you know this? Paul Cupis - -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PG

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-29 Thread Jon Kent
OK, howzabout some useful links that show that although Debian may be losing some users, which is still a shame, it perhaps not as bad as some would think. http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=3614 http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=24417 The first link shows a poll done a while ago on

Re: KDEE3 question

2002-11-29 Thread Michael Meskes
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 02:57:32PM +, Paul Cupis wrote: > > The matter of the fact is that almost all Debian/KDE users are already > > using ftp.kde.org to get the KDE packages. > > Um, how do you know this? Sorry, I of course don't know all Debian/KDE users. I was just extrapolating. I talke

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-29 Thread Joey Hess
Gerfried Fuchs wrote: > > And then on scroll way down the list to your country. And then into the > > current directory on the mirror, oops, that was jigdo only?! back out > > and to the 3.0r0 directory. > > Uhm, just a second. When I click a on the links in that list I get to > the debian-cd d

Re: [Agnubis] Packaging Agnubis for Debian GNU/Linux

2002-11-29 Thread Amaya
Hi all... Andrew Lau dijo: > I'm in no position to sponsor his packages, since I'm still > awaiting DAM approval (11 months and counting). I was hoping that by > joining the NM process, he would be able to find a better candidate > (French speaking perhaps?) to help him learn the ropes of De

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-29 Thread Joey Hess
Gerfried Fuchs wrote: > > But maybe instead, back at debian.org's front page, you picked the > > "Getting Debian" link instead. Only to end up on a page that links to cd > > vendors and "downloading over the Internet". Ok, the latter. But it > > points to a page that only lets one download unnoffic

Re: New maintainer behaviour with NMU and LogJam's hijacking

2002-11-29 Thread Christian Surchi
On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 11:14:14PM -0500, Ari Pollak wrote: > Firstly, I don't think this is a matter for debian-devel as it doesn't > involve the project as a whole and would best be dealt with privately. I've already written to you. I wanted to share my ideas because I don't like this situatio

Re: automatic selection which kernel image to install

2002-11-29 Thread sean finney
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 01:25:09PM +0100, Jens Ruehmkorf wrote: > On Thu, 28 Nov 2002, sean finney wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 06:45:21PM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > > > Can you detect smp from non-smp kernel? > > > > i would guess not... > > Just count the processors in /proc/cpuinfo, he

Re: Help with kernel source installation

2002-11-29 Thread sean finney
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 11:57:53AM -, Charles Garcia-Tobin wrote: > 1. Install kernel-source-2.4.18-5 package > 2. Uncompress and untar /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18-5.tar.bz2 > 3. Symbolic link /usr/src/linux --> kernel-source-2.4.18-5 > 4. cp kernel-config to /usr/src/linux/.config yeah, fo

New thread about people switching to other distributions

2002-11-29 Thread David B Harris
Hey there :) I'm starting a new thread about people switching to other distributions. Why? Because I'd rather we start first with an information-gathering thread. I'm shortly going to relate my first-hand knowledge of why people have switched from Debian, to Gentoo. Everybody else who has any fir

Re: gpg-agent?

2002-11-29 Thread Joey Hess
Brian May wrote: > I would hope that gpg-agent follows similar principles... Oh, so it is a running gpg instance with key, and running gpg just passes it data. That makes sense. Someone package it, please! :-) -- see shy jo pgpbjjlMuKoy1.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: reliable streams over UDP

2002-11-29 Thread Radovan Garabik
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 02:16:20PM +0100, Russell Coker wrote: > Do we have a library in Debian that provides reliable stream based > communication over UDP? > > I want to be able to deal with asymetric links and end-points that change IP > address so TCP won't work. Surely someone must have wr

Re: reliable streams over UDP

2002-11-29 Thread Tommi Virtanen
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 02:16:20PM +0100, Russell Coker wrote: > Do we have a library in Debian that provides reliable stream based > communication over UDP? > > I want to be able to deal with asymetric links and end-points that change IP > address so TCP won't work. Why would TCP have

Re: reliable streams over UDP

2002-11-29 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 29 Nov 2002 17:48, Tommi Virtanen wrote: > On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 02:16:20PM +0100, Russell Coker wrote: > > Do we have a library in Debian that provides reliable stream based > > communication over UDP? > > > > I want to be able to deal with asymetric links and end-points that change > >

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-29 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > > Indeed, the Debian home page is so well organized and so easy to find > > and get around in, that people don't *need* so many secondary sources > > of information. Our success at doing our job well has meant that the > > dist

Re: Pick a name, any name...

2002-11-29 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
"John H. Robinson, IV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Francesco Paolo Lovergine wrote: > > I like maintaining the idea of forge, so my proposal is VULCAN > > (from Roman mithology). > > i prefer greek: hephaistos I prefer Greek too, but that means spelling it in Greek. :)

Re: location of UnicodeData.txt

2002-11-29 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Richard Braakman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 02:58:38PM +0100, Tim Dijkstra wrote: > > > UnicodeData is different, because we need the data in our program, > > > not only the ideas. And it this case we see that as software! > > > > Maybe you're right that we don't reall

Re: gpg-agent?

2002-11-29 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.11.29.1722 +0100]: > Oh, so it is a running gpg instance with key, and running gpg just > passes it data. That makes sense. Someone package it, please! :-) from the current packager i had to hear that it's largely unstable. many bugs and such. we'll

Re: automatic selection which kernel image to install

2002-11-29 Thread Jens Ruehmkorf
On Fri, 29 Nov 2002, sean finney wrote: > well the trouble is, if you're not running an smp kernel, the kernel > doesn't know bout multiple cpus to begin with, right? That's true. > afaik there'd only be one cpu entry in /proc/cpuinfo if you're not > running an smp kernel But it's a good defaul

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-29 Thread Joey Hess
Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > But I use the website. Here's a questions. Go to eh redhat site and > see if you can figure out where to get a complete RedHat CD downloaded > from the net? The comparison is only fair with organizations that *want* you do do so (so not redhat, probably not openbsd,

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-29 Thread Joey Hess
Jon Kent wrote: > BTW, God I wish Debian had forums like this, far > easier that email lists (and no I can't set this up > before someone suggests it). debianplanet.org has stuff like this (incidentially and only because I'm stuck on the subject -- it's marginally easier to find a a debian cd imag

Re: Pick a name, any name...

2002-11-29 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Russell Coker wrote: > > > > that is _NOT_ what a CNAME is for. a CNAME is for when the hostname is > > in a domain that is OUTSIDE of your control. > > > > ie: evil.debian.org -> www.msn.com = CNAME (we don't control the msn.com > > domain) > > forge.debian.org -> quantz.debian.org = A (we control

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-29 Thread Jon Kent
--- Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > debianplanet.org has stuff like this (incidentially > and only because I'm yeh I know but not as easy to use as Gentoo's are IMHO. BTW I agree with you regarding CD images. Gave up in the end trying to download and order CDs from Linux Emporium instea

Re: apt-src - some ideas

2002-11-29 Thread Joey Hess
Jon Kent wrote: > apt-src, good start, really like the fact that it > figures out dependancies and creates .deb file once > complete and is fairly easy to use. > > However, there are some things I would like to see > added at some point if possible: > > 1) Option to compile dependances as opposed

Re: apt-src - some ideas

2002-11-29 Thread Jon Kent
--- Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 1) Option to compile dependances as opposed to > > automatically downloading the dependant packages. > > I believe that apt-build can do this. Unfortunatly, Ok, I haven't looked at apt-build yet. > > > 2) Option to add additional compile flags to gc

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-29 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* (Thomas Bushnell, BSG) | But I use the website. Here's a questions. Go to eh redhat site and | see if you can figure out where to get a complete RedHat CD downloaded | from the net? http://www.redhat.com -> download -> click the download link besides «Red Hat Linux 8.0», and if it weren't fo

Re: New maintainer behaviour with NMU and LogJam's hijacking

2002-11-29 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Christian" == Christian Surchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Christian> Ari wrote to me in the end of october to ask me about Christian> my intention about logjam packaging. I had an enormous Christian> backlog and I could not be able to reply. Then he filed Christian> a wish

Re: reliable streams over UDP

2002-11-29 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Russell" == Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Russell> Do we have a library in Debian that provides reliable Russell> stream based communication over UDP? librx from openafs provides this functionality; it may be somewhat more complexity than you are looking for.

Re: New maintainer behaviour with NMU and LogJam's hijacking

2002-11-29 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 04:41:38PM -0500, Sam Hartman wrote: > If you're complaining that the NMU was handled improperly and that the > communication/policy should have been better, then it seems you're > right. The person performing the NMU has already indicated that they > are sorry they didn't

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-29 Thread David B Harris
On Fri, 29 Nov 2002 15:58:51 -0500 Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The comparison is only fair with organizations that *want* you do do > so(so not redhat, probably not openbsd, or mandrake, or others whose > principal developers try to sell cds). Strictly speaking, given the ISO mirroring

Re: reliable streams over UDP

2002-11-29 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Fri, 29 Nov 2002, Sam Hartman wrote: > > "Russell" == Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Russell> Do we have a library in Debian that provides reliable > Russell> stream based communication over UDP? > > > librx from openafs provides this functionality; it may be somew

Re: Pick a name, any name...

2002-11-29 Thread Joel Baker
On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 07:39:02PM -0800, John H. Robinson, IV wrote: > Ben Armstrong wrote: > > > Bah, that's what CNAME is for. > > that is _NOT_ what a CNAME is for. a CNAME is for when the hostname is > in a domain that is OUTSIDE of your control. > > ie: evil.debian.org -> www.msn.com = CN

Bug#171208: ITP: tlpr -- a Trivial LPR client

2002-11-29 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2002-11-29 Severity: wishlist * Package name: tlpr Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : me * URL : none (yet) * License : GPL Description : a Trivial LPR client tlpr is a trivial line printer client that will send a

Re: New maintainer behaviour with NMU and LogJam's hijacking

2002-11-29 Thread Ari Pollak
> IIRC Ari has caused upset with NMUs before; xscreensaver, I believe. > (I express no opinion about whether that upload was a good idea or > not.) Didn't you sponsor the upload?

Re: Pick a name, any name...

2002-11-29 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
"John H. Robinson, IV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > because with a A record one lookup -> IP address(es) > with a CNAME one lookup -> another lookup -> IP address(es) > > CNAME cause you to at least DOUBLE the DNS lookups, DOUBLING the > potential timeouts, DOUBLING dns load > > can you do it?

Re: Bug#171208: ITP: tlpr -- a Trivial LPR client

2002-11-29 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > Package: wnpp > Version: unavailable; reported 2002-11-29 > Severity: wishlist > > * Package name: tlpr > Version : 0.1 > Upstream Author : me > * URL : none (yet) > * License : GPL > Description : a Trivial LPR client > > tl

Re: Bug#171208: ITP: tlpr -- a Trivial LPR client

2002-11-29 Thread Rene Engelhard
Rene Engelhard wrote: > Sory, but why not simply use "cat foo | lpr" ? > > I do not see a need for this package. > > Maybe you can enlighten me? Hmm. After thinking about it more, I see: cat foo | lpr does not work for raw data (e.g. PS files for PS printers). echo foo > /dev/lp0 does. Am I r

Re: New maintainer behaviour with NMU and LogJam's hijacking

2002-11-29 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 05:50:36PM -0500, Ari Pollak wrote: > Colin Watson wrote: > > IIRC Ari has caused upset with NMUs before; xscreensaver, I believe. > > (I express no opinion about whether that upload was a good idea or > > not.) > > Didn't you sponsor the upload? No. Perhaps that was Col

Re: New maintainer behaviour with NMU and LogJam's hijacking

2002-11-29 Thread Colin Walters
On Fri, 2002-11-29 at 17:50, Ari Pollak wrote: > > IIRC Ari has caused upset with NMUs before; xscreensaver, I believe. > > (I express no opinion about whether that upload was a good idea or > > not.) > > Didn't you sponsor the upload? No, that was me...

Re: Bug#171208: ITP: tlpr -- a Trivial LPR client

2002-11-29 Thread Amaya
Rene Engelhard dijo: > echo foo > /dev/lp0 does. Can you easily do that on a remote printer? -- .''`.I'd like to fly, but my wings have been so denied... : :' :Sand rains down and here I sit - Alice in Chains `. `'Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (Sid + 2.4.19 + Ext3)

Re: Bug#171208: ITP: tlpr -- a Trivial LPR client

2002-11-29 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sat, Nov 30, 2002 at 12:11:21AM +0100, Rene Engelhard wrote: > > tlpr is a trivial line printer client that will send a file to a > > remote printer. It does not know the concept of a configuration file, > > an input filter, or any other form of complexity; instead, it is the > > LPR-equivalent

Re: Bug#171208: ITP: tlpr -- a Trivial LPR client

2002-11-29 Thread Alan Shutko
Rene Engelhard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Sory, but why not simply use "cat foo | lpr" ? Or "rlpr", if you don't want to set up a printcap. -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! Something came out of my.BUTT!

Re: Bug#171208: ITP: tlpr -- a Trivial LPR client

2002-11-29 Thread Alan Shutko
Rene Engelhard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > cat foo | lpr does not work for raw data (e.g. PS files for PS > printers). Huh? It works fine, depending on how you set up your filters. -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! Parents have eyes in the backs of their heads.

Re: Bug#171208: ITP: tlpr -- a Trivial LPR client

2002-11-29 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sat, Nov 30, 2002 at 12:18:07AM +0100, Rene Engelhard wrote: > Rene Engelhard wrote: > > Sory, but why not simply use "cat foo | lpr" ? > > > > I do not see a need for this package. > > > > Maybe you can enlighten me? > > Hmm. After thinking about it more, I see: > > cat foo | lpr does not w

Re: Bug#171208: ITP: tlpr -- a Trivial LPR client

2002-11-29 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi Amaya, Amaya wrote: > Rene Engelhard dijo: > > echo foo > /dev/lp0 does. > > Can you easily do that on a remote printer? Of yourse you can't. I was trying to regognize why this package makes sense... At least for local printers (PS raw to ps printers) this may make sense. Regards, Rene --

Re: reliable streams over UDP

2002-11-29 Thread Brian May
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 02:16:20PM +0100, Russell Coker wrote: > Do we have a library in Debian that provides reliable stream based > communication over UDP? > > I want to be able to deal with asymetric links and end-points that change IP > address so TCP won't work. Surely someone must have wr

Re: reliable streams over UDP

2002-11-29 Thread Glenn McGrath
On Fri, 29 Nov 2002 14:16:20 +0100 Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do we have a library in Debian that provides reliable stream based > communication over UDP? > > I want to be able to deal with asymetric links and end-points that > change IP address so TCP won't work. Surely someone

Re: Pick a name, any name...

2002-11-29 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 01:11:34PM -0800, John H. Robinson, IV wrote: > because with a A record one lookup -> IP address(es) > with a CNAME one lookup -> another lookup -> IP address(es) > > CNAME cause you to at least DOUBLE the DNS lookups, DOUBLING the > potential timeouts, DOUBLING dns load N

Re: reliable streams over UDP

2002-11-29 Thread Shyamal Prasad
"Russell" == Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Russell> I want to be able to deal with asymetric links and Russell> end-points that change IP address so TCP won't work. TCP works well with asymmetric data flows. I think you should consider this carefully before dropping TCP fo

Re: Pick a name, any name...

2002-11-29 Thread Georg Lehner
Hello! El vie, 29-11-2002 a las 16:38, Joel Baker escribió: ... > And, by the way, that *is* one of the uses of a CNAME. To allow things such > as service names (www, ftp, etc) to point to a single IP, which might have > one of those names, or something else, as it's formal name. ... What would