Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-21 Thread Rahul Jain
On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 12:13:57PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: > You're ignoring our main disagreement. Which is whether most people should > use precompiled kernel images or recompile them. > > If you took my position, which is that with initrd, there should be almost > no reason to compile a custo

Re: FYI: dh_upx compresses i386 executables

2001-04-21 Thread Aaron Lehmann
On Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 12:20:21PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: > What is upx good for? > For all applications that are not used in critical environment, i.e. > without enough free disc space, or when they are started to often, so > the decompression time may be too long. > For example, I will compre

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-21 Thread Herbert Xu
On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 12:26:37PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 12:13:57PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: > > > You're ignoring our main disagreement. Which is whether most people > > should use precompiled kernel images or recompile them. > > no, i'm not. > > i keep on trying

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-21 Thread Aaron Lehmann
On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 01:38:42PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: > This is exactly our disagreement. My position is that it is well within > our capabilities to make this unnecessary. And you disagree with that > which is fine with me. It was recently calculated that there are over 2000 kernel option

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-21 Thread Herbert Xu
On Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 09:14:37PM -0700, Aaron Lehmann wrote: > > This is about choice. I want to compile my sound card's driver into > the kernel. I want to compile bttv, however, as a module. I also want > IDE as a module, but I want support for my particular scsi card (and > only that scsi car

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-21 Thread zhaoway
> > This is exactly our disagreement. My position is that it is well > > within our capabilities to make this unnecessary. And you > > disagree with that which is fine with me. [snip] > I should build my own kernel, right? Sure, you're a computer geek. But remember we don't expect our users t

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-21 Thread Aaron Lehmann
On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 12:22:33PM +0800, zhaoway wrote: > > I should build my own kernel, right? > > Sure, you're a computer geek. But remember we don't expect our users > to be all computer elites. No, they're no dummies. Think about > scientists, etc. who just simply don't have that much enough