Re: our broken man package

2001-01-09 Thread Stephen Zander
Late, by hey, what the hell... > "Joey" == Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Joey> In other words, if you can have a religious war over it, we Joey> need an alternative. I have never seen a religious war over Joey> man. :-) Tom Christiansen has been known to get into them. B

Re: Linux Progress Patch for Debian available!

2001-01-09 Thread idalton
On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 10:16:42AM +0100, Florian Hinzmann wrote: > > On 03-Jan-2001 Paul Hedderly wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 11:37:17AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> Who recalls a cddb access program designed for blind people where > >> cddb.com DENIED a certification because th

Re: Status of fab and of his pkgs [Was: ITA: man-db, groff]

2001-01-09 Thread Greg Stark
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [ Moving to -devel. ] > > Fabrizio Polacco wrote: > > It's written everywhere: DON'T RUN MAN AS ROOT! Having no idea where it moved from or what the context was I'll blithely wade in with an opinion: Just because the bug is documented doesn't mean it's n

where is #define __linux__

2001-01-09 Thread Aaron Brashears
I'm doing some code which is intended to work on linux and sunos. I was poking through the header files in /usr/include on my debian box and found a line in g++-3/stl_config.h which specified: #if defined(__linux__) after a quick test, I found out this is true on linux, and not true on solaris w

Re: where is #define __linux__

2001-01-09 Thread D-Man
On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 11:05:54PM -0800, Aaron Brashears wrote: | I'm doing some code which is intended to work on linux and sunos. I | was poking through the header files in /usr/include on my debian box | and found a line in g++-3/stl_config.h which specified: | | #if defined(__linux__) | |

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

2001-01-09 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Manoj Srivastava | You missed the point by a lot. OK, here it is all speeled out: No, I didn't. I told you that gnus has a way around it. Which isn't perfect, but quite good. And of course it's a hack and a workaround - I am not saying that setting reply-to on a mailing list is the co

Re: ITP: mboxgrep -- Grep through mailboxes

2001-01-09 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Stephane Bortzmeyer | On Monday 8 January 2001, at 9 h 5, the keyboard of Tollef Fog Heen | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | | > I intend to package mboxgrep, a utility which greps mailboxes. | | BTW, we already have sgrep, which is fine for that purpose. Does it support both simple regexps, e

Re: where is #define __linux__

2001-01-09 Thread phil
On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 11:05:54PM -0800, Aaron Brashears wrote: > > While on the topic, is there a > magic preprocessor definition that lets me know if I'm on > sunos/solaris? yes indeedy. multiple. there is __sun__ to detect solarisORsunos, and __svr4__ to detect solaris specifically, I beli

Re: tar -I incompatibility

2001-01-09 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 02:06:52PM +1100, Sam Couter wrote: > Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > If we're expected to avoid any advanced features, why do the authors bother > > to implement them? > > http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/jargon/html/entry/creeping-featuritis.html So, what's

Re: Developer Behavior

2001-01-09 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 08:25:53AM -0800, Aaron Lehmann wrote: > On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 10:17:42AM -0600, Vince Mulhollon wrote: > > "waiting for DAM approval, whenever that is supposed to happen" (emphasis > > on the "supposed to happen") > > No offense to the DAM, but I share Eray's pedicament

Re: big Packages.gz file

2001-01-09 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 03:04:10AM +0800, zhaoway wrote: > A big package index IMHO is the current bottleneck of Debian package system. What is the real problem with the large package files? They take a long time to download, but so do emacs and other bloatware. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <

Re: Developer Behavior

2001-01-09 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Hamish! You wrote: > If you're in the keyring but have no account you can upload > through an upload queue. There are a few of those around the world. > This adds probably 1 day to the processing time. How can you be on the keyring while not having an account on auric? Either you are a develo

Re: Debian unstable tar incompatible with 1.13.x?

2001-01-09 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 06:16:54AM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: > To summarize what has been happening in debian-devel, > > The maintainer of tar has decided he wants to change the meaning of Please be careful with your wording -- the upstream author has made this change, not the debian maintain

Re: Developer Behavior

2001-01-09 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 09:59:39AM +0100, Bas Zoetekouw wrote: > You wrote: > > > If you're in the keyring but have no account you can upload > > through an upload queue. There are a few of those around the world. > > This adds probably 1 day to the processing time. > > How can you be on the keyr

Re: big Packages.gz file

2001-01-09 Thread Miles Bader
Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What is the real problem with the large package files? They take a long > time to download, but so do emacs and other bloatware. Yeah, but how often do you download emacs? The packages file gets downloaded _every single time_ you do an update, and for

Re: Developer Behavior

2001-01-09 Thread Marcin Owsiany
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 08:03:40PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > How can you be on the keyring while not having an account on auric? > > Either you are a developer and you have both, or you are not a developer > > and you have neither. > > Probably you can't. I don't know the NM process well en

Re: Developer Behavior

2001-01-09 Thread Marek Habersack
** On Jan 09, Marcin Owsiany scribbled: > On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 08:03:40PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > > How can you be on the keyring while not having an account on auric? > > > Either you are a developer and you have both, or you are not a developer > > > and you have neither. > > > > Pro

Re: ITA gnucash?

2001-01-09 Thread Ola Lundqvist
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 08:53:50PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > FYI, I don't plan to package up 1.5.x until upstream brands it stable. That sounds good. Better a version with lack of functionality then a version that messes with the economic files... They can be quite important. :) // Ola -- --

Re: Avifile package - help needed

2001-01-09 Thread Andreas Metzler
Zdenek Kabelac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > I've just placed there the latest version of avifile > (surprisingly the one in CVS is older) > Anyway for now I've used the name of the tar archive so for > the dpkg this archive looks older (0.53-1) > I'm not sure if I should use the release nu

Re: Avifile package - help needed

2001-01-09 Thread Zdenek Kabelac
> >> Zdenek Kabelac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > But in this case - maybe downloading script would be legal for Debian ? > > (just like for realplayer ? - or do you think Debian user should never > > see any DivX-ed movie ?) > > Well, AFAICS the installer would cp *.dll /usr/lib/win32/ o

Re: big Packages.gz file

2001-01-09 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 06:04:58PM +0900, Miles Bader wrote: > Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > What is the real problem with the large package files? They take a long > > time to download, but so do emacs and other bloatware. > > Yeah, but how often do you download emacs? Never, I

Re: 'export RESOLV_HOST_CONF= any file you want' local vulnerability

2001-01-09 Thread Christoph Baumann
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 11:08:56AM +, Julian Gilbey wrote: > Most weird. I get this behaviour when running through a setuid root > strace, but I don't get the error messages (and hence the content of > /etc/shadow) when I don't use strace. I'm still running potato. I have some more oddities

Re: where is #define __linux__

2001-01-09 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 11:05:54PM -0800, Aaron Brashears wrote: > I'm doing some code which is intended to work on linux and sunos. I > was poking through the header files in /usr/include on my debian box > and found a line in g++-3/stl_config.h which specified: > > #if defined(__linux__) > > af

Re: jabber field on db.debian.org?

2001-01-09 Thread Othmar Pasteka
hi, On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 06:24:44PM +0100, Andreas Fuchs wrote: > Today, Gerfried Fuchs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -) Or, during a short period (say, 2 months or so?) both fields could > > be there, and icq should really be dropped. > Or, they could both be there (if space permits) with the

NMU of sitecopy ?

2001-01-09 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
Tom, the sitecopy package is heavily out of date. sitecopy in sid is at 0.9.10 (the upstream release as of Apr 2000). Since then, there were more than ten new upstream releases with various major improvements. The most recent upstream version is now 0.10.12. The bug page for sitecopy lists variou

Re: ITU: freeswan 1.8

2001-01-09 Thread Adam Heath
On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, Rene Mayrhofer wrote: > [snip] Could you please run dpkg-scanpackages, and dpkg-scansources, so that we can use apt to install this stuff? Txs. BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK Version: 3.12 GCS d- s: a-- c+++ UL P+ L !E W+ M o+ K- W--- !O M- !V PS-- PE++ Y+ PGP++ t* 5+

debian changelog mode

2001-01-09 Thread zhaoway
Where could I get one? Thanks! Even no package for it is okay! ;) -- echo < */ EOF

Re: Solving the compression dilema when rsync-ing Debian versions

2001-01-09 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
Goswin Brederlow wrote: > >> gzip --rsyncable, aloready implemented, ask Rusty Russell. > > > The --rsyncable switch might yield the same result (I haven't > > checked it sofar) but will need some internal knowledge how to > > determine the old compression. > > As far as I unde

Re: 'export RESOLV_HOST_CONF= any file you want' local vulnerability

2001-01-09 Thread Ben Collins
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 01:41:41PM +0100, Christoph Baumann wrote: > On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 11:08:56AM +, Julian Gilbey wrote: > > Most weird. I get this behaviour when running through a setuid root > > strace, but I don't get the error messages (and hence the content of > > /etc/shadow) when

Re: testing ipv6 tools

2001-01-09 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 10:46:09PM +, Philip Blundell wrote: > Pierfrancesco Caci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >connect(4, {sin_family=AF_INET6, sin6_port=htons(1025), inet_pton(AF_INET6, > >"f > >e80::250:4ff:fe38:a630", &sin6_addr), sin6_flowinfo=htonl(0)}}, 24) = -1 > >EINVA > >L (Inval

Re: where is #define __linux__

2001-01-09 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
D-Man wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 11:05:54PM -0800, Aaron Brashears wrote: > | I'm doing some code which is intended to work on linux and sunos. I > | was poking through the header files in /usr/include on my debian box > | and found a line in g++-3/stl_config.h which specified: > | > | #if

PERL MAINTAINERS SUCK - COMPLETE MORONS

2001-01-09 Thread Adam Heath
Package: perl-5.6 Severity: critical Scenario: Install new machine with potato. Configure all packages that come with a default minimal install. Run dpkg --get-selections on a working half-potato/half-sid machine. Run dpkg --set-selections on the new machine. apt-get dselect-upgrade. perl goe

Re: big Packages.gz file

2001-01-09 Thread zhaoway
From: Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: big Packages.gz file Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 23:40:01 +1100 > On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 06:04:58PM +0900, Miles Bader wrote: > > The packages file gets downloaded _every single time_ you do an update, > > and for those of us with a slow modem link,

Re: big Packages.gz file

2001-01-09 Thread zhaoway
From: Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: big Packages.gz file Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 19:59:13 +1100 > On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 03:04:10AM +0800, zhaoway wrote: > > A big package index IMHO is the current bottleneck of Debian package system. > > What is the real problem with the large p

Re: Developer Behavior

2001-01-09 Thread Russell Coker
On Tuesday 09 January 2001 03:17, Vince Mulhollon wrote: > 5) A Debian Developer will never knowingly run a production server on > "unstable" and will never encourage a non-developer to run "unstable". I understand that people don't like being told what to do and agree that it isn't the place of

Re: debian changelog mode

2001-01-09 Thread Peter S Galbraith
http://people.debian.org/~psg/debian-changelog-mode.el Roland Mas packaged it about the same time Rob agreed to include it in emacsen-common, so I'm not sure what's going to happen. Peter zhaoway wrote: > Where could I get one? Thanks! > Even no package for it is okay! ;)

Re: PERL MAINTAINERS SUCK - COMPLETE MORONS

2001-01-09 Thread Ron Rademaker
Hmm, isn't sid called UNSTABLE, that means that if you want use it, there is a risk that things aren't exactly perfect (don't take perfect to seriously). Not that long ago I upgraded one of my machines from woody to sid, now it's running perl 5.6 and I didn't have any trouble upgrading at all! BT

Re: local facilities and official packages

2001-01-09 Thread Arthur Korn
Hi Andres Seco Hernandez schrieb: > Are local? facilities reserved in Debian for some purpose? I'm not aware of any "reserved" local facilities, however system log daemons provide the syslog-facility(8) script which may be used by packages to dynamically retrieve and set up a local facility (eg s

Re: PERL MAINTAINERS SUCK - COMPLETE MORONS

2001-01-09 Thread Adam Heath
On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Ron Rademaker wrote: > Hmm, isn't sid called UNSTABLE, that means that if you want use it, there > is a risk that things aren't exactly perfect (don't take perfect to > seriously). > Not that long ago I upgraded one of my machines from woody to sid, now > it's running perl 5.6

Re: PERL MAINTAINERS SUCK - COMPLETE MORONS

2001-01-09 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Adam! You wrote: > ANY package that is needed by the packaging system(and this does not only > include dpkg support scripts, but debconf, and some maintainer scripts, > including adduser) NEEDS TO NOT BREAK PERIOD. Please calm down. If your specific thing doesn't work, OK, that's worth a bug

Re: PERL MAINTAINERS SUCK - COMPLETE MORONS

2001-01-09 Thread Jordi Mallach
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 04:50:05PM +0100, Ron Rademaker wrote: > Hmm, isn't sid called UNSTABLE, that means that if you want use it, there > is a risk that things aren't exactly perfect (don't take perfect to > seriously). That doesn't solve that perl's official maintainer broke the packages quit

Re: PERL MAINTAINERS SUCK - COMPLETE MORONS

2001-01-09 Thread Ron Rademaker
On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Jordi Mallach wrote: > On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 04:50:05PM +0100, Ron Rademaker wrote: > > Hmm, isn't sid called UNSTABLE, that means that if you want use it, there > > is a risk that things aren't exactly perfect (don't take perfect to > > seriously). > > That doesn't solve t

Re: PERL MAINTAINERS SUCK - COMPLETE MORONS

2001-01-09 Thread Adam Heath
On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Ron Rademaker wrote: > > I checked BTS and the bug wasn't in BTS. Because the indices only run every 12 hours. Check 81679. BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK Version: 3.12 GCS d- s: a-- c+++ UL P+ L !E W+ M o+ K- W--- !O M- !V PS-- PE++ Y+ PGP++ t* 5++ X+ tv b+ D++ G e

Kernel Sends 7E ?

2001-01-09 Thread Derrick \(Thrawn01\)
I'm not sure if this would be the correct List to post a question such was this. but.   we use Linux as the server on a Embedded DOS client-server environment. the devices running embedded Initiate a communication with the Linux server. Our Daemon on the Linux box responds with a single pa

Re: ITP: doc-debian-ja -- Debian FAQ and other documents (Japanese)

2001-01-09 Thread SEKIDO Koichi
From: SEKIDO Koichi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: ITP: doc-debian-ja -- Debian FAQ and other documents (Japanese) Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 17:31:01 +0900 (JST) > Package: doc-debian-ja > Severity: wishlist Oops, I reassigned this bug report (#81568) to wnpp. -- SEKIDO Koichi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Developer Behavior

2001-01-09 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 02:34:39AM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > But I think that there is some merit to having discouragement towards running > unstable on production machines. I've been getting flamed immensely recently > about my lilo package that over-wrote lilo.conf incorrectly. Even thou

Re: Developer Behavior

2001-01-09 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 02:34:39AM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > 1) This situation does not stop a running machine from working, it will only > stop it from booting. Oh, well, as long as THAT'S all it is... -- G. Branden Robinson | Experience should teach us to be most on Debian

Re: Kernel Sends 7E ?

2001-01-09 Thread Matt Zimmerman
(what does this have to do with Debian package development?) On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 11:14:23AM -0500, Derrick (Thrawn01) wrote: > I'm not sure if this would be the correct List to post a question such was > this. but. > > we use Linux as the server on a Embedded DOS client-server environment.

Re: Kernel Sends 7E ?

2001-01-09 Thread Vince Mulhollon
Yes, this would be the wrong list. I suppose you need to research the following: 0) Your email refers to a client server system, and mentions embedded dos, a linux server, and a linux client. So a client/server architecture has two parts, and your system has three parts, an embedded DOS thing,

Re: PERL MAINTAINERS SUCK - COMPLETE MORONS

2001-01-09 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 10:16:09AM -0600, Adam Heath wrote: > On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Ron Rademaker wrote: > > > > > I checked BTS and the bug wasn't in BTS. > > Because the indices only run every 12 hours. Check 81679. I thought the reason for switching from the generated HTML to CGIs was so tha

Re: Developer Behavior

2001-01-09 Thread Mark Mealman
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 11:23:08AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 02:34:39AM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > > 1) This situation does not stop a running machine from working, it will > > only > > stop it from booting. > > Oh, well, as long as THAT'S all it is... Heh, it

re: finishing up the /usr/share/doc transition

2001-01-09 Thread Steve S
Hi all, I just read the thread on finishing the move to /usr/share/doc. I've been a Debian user for a couple of years now and would like to find small ways to help... This sounds like something I can do in my spare time. I'd be interested in performing the necessary work on some packages if som

Re: big Packages.gz file

2001-01-09 Thread sluncho
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 11:40:01PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 06:04:58PM +0900, Miles Bader wrote: > > Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > What is the real problem with the large package files? They take a long > > > time to download, but so do emacs and oth

Re: debian changelog mode

2001-01-09 Thread 99 . roland . mas
Peter S Galbraith (2001-01-09 10:44:39 -0500) : > http://people.debian.org/~psg/debian-changelog-mode.el > > Roland Mas packaged it about the same time Rob agreed to include it > in emacsen-common, so I'm not sure what's going to happen. It's just been uploaded to a queue (erlangen if I'm any

Re: PERL MAINTAINERS SUCK - COMPLETE MORONS

2001-01-09 Thread Adam Heath
On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > I thought the reason for switching from the generated HTML to CGIs was so that > the pages could be dynamically generated, and we wouldn't have this problem. you're correct, that is the reason. But the indices take too long to fully dynamically generat

Re: PERL MAINTAINERS SUCK - COMPLETE MORONS

2001-01-09 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 11:42:06AM -0600, Adam Heath wrote: > On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > > I thought the reason for switching from the generated HTML to CGIs was so > > that the pages could be dynamically generated, and we wouldn't have this > > problem. > > you're correct, th

Re: PERL MAINTAINERS SUCK - COMPLETE MORONS

2001-01-09 Thread Adam Heath
On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > It's long past time that the BTS had a real database backend. Since the code > is being actively worked on, I assume there are reasons why this isn't > feasible > yet. Do you know what they are? Is there any way I can help? I have code that imports

Re: Kernel Sends 7E ?

2001-01-09 Thread Daniel Martin
"Derrick (Thrawn01)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > the devices running embedded Initiate a communication with the Linux > server. Our Daemon on the Linux box responds with > > a single packet containing the Transaction information. directly after that > packet the Linux box sends a packet contain

Re: rm to mp3, or rm,mp3 to .wav audio files

2001-01-09 Thread Diego Brouard
On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 01:59:21PM -0800, Kenneth Scharf wrote: > Does anyone have any ideas on > this, or has it been done already? I haven't tried at all but I can tell you that xmms has an option called "Disk Writer Plugin" at the "output plugins". Type ctrl-P while you use xmms.

Re: where is #define __linux__

2001-01-09 Thread Aaron Brashears
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 02:22:45PM +0100, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > Just as a side note, think twice (or even thrice) before using that symbols. > Is the code really linux specific? For example, a Linux kernel feature > certainly is, but many other things aren't. Often it is more appropriate > to c

devfsd also (was: NMU of sitecopy ?)

2001-01-09 Thread Brian Frederick Kimball
The devfsd package could also use an NMU or two. It has apparently been ignored by Tom Lee for months. Almost all of its bugs appear to be fairly trivial, and he's only responded to one of the 11 open bugs (and that response was three months ago). I'm not trying to 'dis' Tom; he may very well ha

Re: Developer Behavior

2001-01-09 Thread Andreas Fuchs
Today, Mark Mealman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > 1) This situation does not stop a running machine from working, it >> > will only stop it from booting. >> Oh, well, as long as THAT'S all it is... > Heh, it's not like you're rebooting a Linux box more than one a year > anyway Only applies

lilo 21.6-2 default less compatible

2001-01-09 Thread Santiago Garcia Mantinan
Hi! I have just had a trip to boot up a server after an upgrade to our new lilo package, it was my fault to not know wich of the lilo's options were really needed, but the question is... I think the new lilo's defaults are less compatible than de old ones, wouldn't it make more sense to default t

Re: tar -I incompatibility

2001-01-09 Thread Ingo Saitz
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 02:26:32PM +0100, Martin Bialasinski wrote: > tar in potato uses -I for bzip2. So far, tar -I won't be bzip2 in > woody, the next stable. I wonder how other linux distributions will handle this. Would it be possible for potato, to support -j as well to ease the transition t

Re: Avifile package - help needed

2001-01-09 Thread Ingo Saitz
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 01:08:10PM +0100, Zdenek Kabelac wrote: > In this case - Should I copy these libraries to /usr/lib/win32 or > should I select probably more apropriate place like /usr/local/lib > (or even better - I would preffer to use 'stow' package for this - as in > my eyes only the /usr

Re: PERL MAINTAINERS SUCK - COMPLETE MORONS

2001-01-09 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 11:54:23AM -0600, Adam Heath wrote: > On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > > It's long past time that the BTS had a real database backend. Since the > > code is being actively worked on, I assume there are reasons why this isn't > > feasible yet. Do you know wha

Re: Developer Behavior

2001-01-09 Thread D-Man
On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 02:34:39AM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: | I don't think that unstable should be limited to Debian developers, but I | think that it should be restricted to discourage people who aren't reading | debian-devel. What if we setup the servers to use a different random | passwo

Re: tar -I incompatibility

2001-01-09 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 09:09:06PM +0100, Ingo Saitz wrote: > On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 02:26:32PM +0100, Martin Bialasinski wrote: > > tar in potato uses -I for bzip2. So far, tar -I won't be bzip2 in > > woody, the next stable. > > I wonder how other linux distributions will handle this. Would it

Re: 'export RESOLV_HOST_CONF= any file you want' local vulnerability

2001-01-09 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 09:29:46AM -0500, Ben Collins wrote: > Potato is not vulnerable. This is a woody/sid only bug (i.e. glibc > 2.1.9x and greater, such as the 2.2 in woody/sid). The bug is not that > it prints this info, but that it uses the env variable even when > suid/sgid. This wasn't supp

Re: ITP: kimberlite -- HA Cluster for Linux

2001-01-09 Thread Josh Huber
On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 09:59:45PM +0100, Ralf Treinen wrote: > > Package: wnpp > > Severity: wishlist > > > > Kimberlite is a complete framework providing high availability for > > application services on Linux. The key features of the architecture > > Which licence? -Ralf. Sorry, I forgot to

ITP: tads

2001-01-09 Thread Daniel Schepler
I'm planning to package TADS, which is a system for writing or playing text games similar to the Z-code system (inform, xzip/frotz/etc). The license is non-free. -- Daniel Schepler "Please don't disillusion me. I [EMAIL PROTECTED]haven't had breakfast yet."

Re: News about Debian Conference... and have an happy new year !

2001-01-09 Thread Bruce Perens
Hi Thierry, For the broader LSM, I can do an embedded systems course, using the text of my series "Building Tiny Linux Systems" which is running in "Embedded Linux Journal". The text of the series is being released under the GFDL. For the Debian part of the meeting, I could say something about us

Re: big Packages.gz file

2001-01-09 Thread Brian May
> "sluncho" == sluncho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: sluncho> How hard would it be to make daily diffs of the Package sluncho> file? Most people running unstable update every other day sluncho> and this will require downloading and applying only a sluncho> couple of diff files.

resolution of the tar -I issue

2001-01-09 Thread Bdale Garbee
I'm satisfied with this solution, and will work with Paul to deliver an implementation for Debian as soon as possible. Bdale --- Forwarded Message Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 12:49:43 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Eggert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL

Re: tar -I incompatibility

2001-01-09 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 09:09:06PM +0100, Ingo Saitz wrote: > option? Is -j fixed for the next stable tar version or will it > probably change to something different again? If yes, we should > not support -j in potato, as suggested above, of course. It's already changed several times before. I wou

Re: resolution of the tar -I issue

2001-01-09 Thread Adam Heath
On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Bdale Garbee wrote: > I'm satisfied with this solution, and will work with Paul to deliver an > implementation for Debian as soon as possible. > > [snip] I'm happy with this solution. BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK Version: 3.12 GCS d- s: a-- c+++ UL P+ L !E W+ M o+ K-

gimp 1.1

2001-01-09 Thread Joey Hess
Kevin Dalley wrote: > Source: xsane-gimp1.1 > Binary: xsane-gimp1.1 Do we actually need gimp1.1 and associated packages anymore? gimp1.2 in in unstable. -- see shy jo

Re: News about Debian Conference... and have an happy new year !

2001-01-09 Thread Roland Bauerschmidt
Bruce Perens wrote: > For the Debian part of the meeting, I could say something about use of > Debian inside of HP, especially how it was used for the PA-RISC and ia64 > ports. Speaking of IA-64: Do we have a machine yet? AFAIK not. Do you think HP would be willing to make one availible to Debian?

Re: Solving the compression dilema when rsync-ing Debian versions

2001-01-09 Thread Otto Wyss
> > gzip --compress-like=old-foo foo > > > > where foo will be compressed as old-foo was or as aquivalent as > > possible. Gzip does not need to know anything about foo except how it > > was compressed. The switch "--compress-like" could be added to any > > compression algorithmus (bzip?)

Re: Solving the compression dilema when rsync-ing Debian versions

2001-01-09 Thread Otto Wyss
> > gzip --compress-like=old-foo foo > > AFAIK thats NOT possible with gzip. Same with bzip2. > Why not. > I wish it where that simple. > I'm not saying it's simple, I'm saying it's possible. I'm not a compression speciallist but from the theory there is nothing which prevents this

IA-64?

2001-01-09 Thread Bruce Perens
From: Roland Bauerschmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Speaking of IA-64: Do we have a machine yet? AFAIK not. Do you think HP > would be willing to make one availible to Debian? Please verify the situation regarding ia64 and get back to me. Sorry about the list posting. I just hit "r" without looking.

O: dconfig -- The Debian config collection tool

2001-01-09 Thread Michael Bramer
Package: wnpp Severity: normal This is a experimental debian package. I don't use it and I don't like it. It is not useful. I write a bugreport to ftp.debian.org too and ask to remove the package from the ftp-server. If you use it (i can't believe that) get it and close the bug-reports. Gruss G

Re: resolution of the tar -I issue

2001-01-09 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 03:09:34PM -0700, Bdale Garbee wrote: > I'm satisfied with this solution, and will work with Paul to deliver an > implementation for Debian as soon as possible. sounds very good. -- Mike Stone

Creeping featuritis (was: Re: tar -I incompatibility)

2001-01-09 Thread Sam Couter
Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So, what's your point exactly? > > I hope you never use apt-get, as that would certainly be > something beyond bare bones. No it's not. It does one thing (Advanced Package Management), and does it fairly well. Just because the thing it does is a comp

Re: Solving the compression dilema when rsync-ing Debian versions

2001-01-09 Thread Goswin Brederlow
> " " == Otto Wyss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > gzip --compress-like=old-foo foo >> >> AFAIK thats NOT possible with gzip. Same with bzip2. >> > Why not. gzip creates a dictionary (that gets realy large) of strings that are used and encodes references to them. At th

Re: big Packages.gz file

2001-01-09 Thread Goswin Brederlow
> " " == Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "sluncho" == sluncho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: sluncho> How hard would it be to make daily diffs of the Package sluncho> file? Most people running unstable update every other day sluncho> and this will require downloading and

Re: Creeping featuritis (was: Re: tar -I incompatibility)

2001-01-09 Thread Jacob Kuntz
from the secret journal of Sam Couter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > No it's not. It does one thing (Advanced Package Management), and does it > fairly well. Just because the thing it does is a complex task doesn't mean > it's got creeping featuritis. If it tried to do more than just package > management,

Re: Solving the compression dilema when rsync-ing Debian versions

2001-01-09 Thread Goswin Brederlow
> " " == Otto Wyss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > gzip --compress-like=old-foo foo > > where foo will be >> compressed as old-foo was or as aquivalent as > possible. Gzip >> does not need to know anything about foo except how it > was >> compressed. The switch "--compress-lik

Re: tar -I incompatibility

2001-01-09 Thread Craig Sanders
On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 12:28:15AM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > Frankly, I don't see why gnu tar needs to be compatible with > OS-specific versions because most of those are feature-poor anyway. the one reason for gnu tar to do that is so that it can be a drop-in replacement for those crappy ver

Re: News about Debian Conference... and have an happy new year !

2001-01-09 Thread Bdale Garbee
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roland Bauerschmidt) writes: > Speaking of IA-64: Do we have a machine yet? AFAIK not. Several Debian folk have acces of one kind or another to IA-64 hardware. I am not aware of any IA-64 systems fully dedicated to Debian development. I am in possession of an IA-64 box from H

Re: ITP ilisp

2001-01-09 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Craig Brozefsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20010102 14:07]: > ILISP is a emacs interface to various lisp-like systems, including > CMUCL and guile (which are already packaged for Debian). Please close #68227 when you upload the package. -- Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: IA-64?

2001-01-09 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Bruce Perens wrote: > > Speaking of IA-64: Do we have a machine yet? AFAIK not. Do you think HP > > would be willing to make one availible to Debian? > > Please verify the situation regarding ia64 and get back to me. HP, via Matt Taggart, is planning to put a IA64 box and a

Re: PERL MAINTAINERS SUCK - COMPLETE MORONS

2001-01-09 Thread Ralph Jennings
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 04:54:11PM +0100, Bas Zoetekouw wrote: [snip] > > ANY package that is needed by the packaging system(and this does not only > > include dpkg support scripts, but debconf, and some maintainer scripts, > > including adduser) NEEDS TO NOT BREAK PERIOD. [snip] > BTW: upgrading p

ITP: mserv

2001-01-09 Thread David Whedon
http://www.mserv.org/ License is BSD. Description: local centralised multiuser music environment Mserv is a music server designed to do a number of things better than most systems designed to play mp3s: . Supports any type of client using standard TCP protocol Stores information on mp3

Re: 'export RESOLV_HOST_CONF= any file you want' local vulnerability

2001-01-09 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 08:34:13AM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 09:29:46AM -0500, Ben Collins wrote: > > Potato is not vulnerable. This is a woody/sid only bug (i.e. glibc > > 2.1.9x and greater, such as the 2.2 in woody/sid). The bug is not that > > it prints this info,

Re: IA-64?

2001-01-09 Thread Roland Bauerschmidt
Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > HP, via Matt Taggart, is planning to put a IA64 box and a HPPA box for us > at their Fort Collins, Colorado facility. That sounds good. I wasn't aware of it. Roland -- Roland Bauerschmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: ITP: tads

2001-01-09 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Tue, 09 Jan 2001, Daniel Schepler wrote: > I'm planning to package TADS, which is a system for writing or playing > text games similar to the Z-code system (inform, xzip/frotz/etc). The > license is non-free. You should probably package the runtime and the compiler in separate binary packages

Re: gimp 1.1

2001-01-09 Thread Ben Gertzfield
> "Joey" == Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Joey> Do we actually need gimp1.1 and associated packages anymore? Joey> gimp1.2 in in unstable. Nope, go ahead and toss it if we can get the other libgimp1.1 using packages out too.. Ben -- Brought to you by the letters F and E an

Re: lilo 21.6-2 default less compatible

2001-01-09 Thread Russell Coker
On Wednesday 10 January 2001 06:53, Santiago Garcia Mantinan wrote: > I have just had a trip to boot up a server after an upgrade to our new lilo > package, it was my fault to not know wich of the lilo's options were really > needed, but the question is... > > I think the new lilo's defaults are le

Path modification

2001-01-09 Thread Jon Eisenstein
I recently filed a bug report (80092) against the nmh package regarding the location of its program files. It installs files into /usr/bin/mh, which isn't in the path, making running the program difficult until the reason is found. A suggestion was made by the maintainer to file a report against b

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