Re: using perl in preinst script

On Fri, 31 Dec 2010, Carsten Hey wrote: > * Philipp Kern [2010-12-29 05:38 +]: > > On 2010-12-28, Carsten Hey wrote: > > > ... One reason for this is that dpkg's perl scripts were rewritten > > > in C. > > > > I know you phrased it differently but wasn't the motivation for this > > rewrite to

Re: using perl in preinst script

* Philipp Kern [2010-12-29 05:38 +]: > On 2010-12-28, Carsten Hey wrote: > > ... One reason for this is that dpkg's perl scripts were rewritten > > in C. > > I know you phrased it differently but wasn't the motivation for this > rewrite to be more robust in the base system on upgrades? I.e.

Re: using perl in preinst script

On 2010-12-30, Peter Samuelson wrote: >> On 2010-12-28, Carsten Hey wrote: >> > system. The remaining perl library packages could be removed after >> > installing debconf-english. > [Philipp Kern] >> "You don't care about non-native speakers?" SCNR. > That's not how I read it at all. I think h

Re: using perl in preinst script

> On 2010-12-28, Carsten Hey wrote: > > system. The remaining perl library packages could be removed after > > installing debconf-english. [Philipp Kern] > "You don't care about non-native speakers?" SCNR. That's not how I read it at all. I think he's just saying, debconf-i18n requires perl,

Re: using perl in preinst script

On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 15:07:56 -0800 Russ Allbery wrote: > Carsten Hey writes: > > > We are not that far away from being able to implement this plan. The principle reason to consider not having perl / perl-base installed as part of a minimal base system (note that I don't claim that this involve

Re: using perl in preinst script

On 2010-12-28, Carsten Hey wrote: > * Russ Allbery [2010-12-27 08:49 -0800]: >> Luk Claes writes: >> > I thought there were some plans to try to get rid of perl-base being >> > essential, in that case only shell (or C?) is a real alternative. > We are not that far away from being able to implemen

Re: using perl in preinst script

* Steve Langasek [2010-12-28 15:46 -0800]: > On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 11:48:18PM +0100, Carsten Hey wrote: > > * pam_getenv and pam-auth-update from libpam-runtime: > > >pam_getenv is 76 lines of code. pam-auth-update is 490 lines of > >code and has been added after Lenny has been released

Re: using perl in preinst script

On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 11:48:18PM +0100, Carsten Hey wrote: > * pam_getenv and pam-auth-update from libpam-runtime: >pam_getenv is 76 lines of code. pam-auth-update is 490 lines of code >and has been added after Lenny has been released. And the lack of pam-auth-update has been a glarin

Re: using perl in preinst script

Carsten Hey writes: > We are not that far away from being able to implement this plan. One > reason for this is that dpkg's perl scripts were rewritten in C. > After debootstraping the minbase variant of sid, installing file-rc and > removing insserv, there is not much perl left in the newly cr

Re: using perl in preinst script

* Russ Allbery [2010-12-27 08:49 -0800]: > Luk Claes writes: > > > I thought there were some plans to try to get rid of perl-base being > > essential, in that case only shell (or C?) is a real alternative. We are not that far away from being able to implement this plan. One reason for this is th

Re: using perl in preinst script

On 2010-12-27, Rahul Amaram wrote: > Thanks Philips. I've subscribed to the debian-devel-announce list. Is it > also necessary that I subscribe to debian-announce i.e. will posts to > debian-announce be automatically marked to debian-devel-annouce? No, debian-announce has press releases, which

Re: using perl in preinst script

Rahul Amaram writes: > The package depends on python anyways. My only query is as I am using > python in postinst script, is it sufficient to mention it as part of > Depends or should it still be mentioned in Pre-Depends? Depends is sufficient for postinst configure in the absence of circular de

Re: using perl in preinst script

The package depends on python anyways. My only query is as I am using python in postinst script, is it sufficient to mention it as part of Depends or should it still be mentioned in Pre-Depends? Apart from that, as per the response given by Neil and also my sponsorer, I think the below logic s

Re: using perl in preinst script

Thanks Philips. I've subscribed to the debian-devel-announce list. Is it also necessary that I subscribe to debian-announce i.e. will posts to debian-announce be automatically marked to debian-devel-annouce? On Monday 27 December 2010 10:11 PM, Philipp Kern wrote: On 2010-12-27, Rahul Amaram

Re: using perl in preinst script

Luk Claes writes: > I thought there were some plans to try to get rid of perl-base being > essential, in that case only shell (or C?) is a real alternative. I cannot imagine this ever happening at a practical level. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org)

Re: using perl in preinst script

On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 00:32, Rahul Amaram wrote: > Hi Neil, > Thanks for the response. I didn't intend to work on this update as per my > leisure. I greatly admire the Debian release team for the effort they put > in, in trying to make Debian a great experience to the end users. As I've > alread

Re: using perl in preinst script

On 2010-12-27, Rahul Amaram wrote: > Thanks for the response. I didn't intend to work on this update as per > my leisure. I greatly admire the Debian release team for the effort they > put in, in trying to make Debian a great experience to the end users. As > I've already told you, I am new and

Re: using perl in preinst script

Hi Neil, Thanks for the response. I didn't intend to work on this update as per my leisure. I greatly admire the Debian release team for the effort they put in, in trying to make Debian a great experience to the end users. As I've already told you, I am new and therefore didn't know of the dee

Re: using perl in preinst script

On 12/27/2010 01:45 PM, Neil Williams wrote: > On Mon, 27 Dec 2010 13:19:57 +0100 > Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > >> ]] Rahul Amaram >> >> >> | I am the maintainer for calendarserver. I have a query reg. preinst >> | script. I need to perform some action during preinst before the >> | upgrade of cale

Re: using perl in preinst script

On Mon, 27 Dec 2010 18:27:10 +0530 Rahul Amaram wrote: > - Read the current caldavd.plist configuration file if it exists > - If NSS directory service is configured in caldavd.plist, ... then stop processing in the preinst at this point and set the config to not use NSS until configured. > perf

Re: using perl in preinst script

Hi, Thanks a lot for the prompt responses. I am a new maintainer (sponsored) and so not aware of some issues. I really appreciate all the help given in the list. Continuing with my previous mail, this is what the preinst script does: - Read the current caldavd.plist configuration file if it exis

Re: using perl in preinst script

On Mon, 27 Dec 2010 13:19:57 +0100 Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > ]] Rahul Amaram > > > | I am the maintainer for calendarserver. I have a query reg. preinst > | script. I need to perform some action during preinst before the > | upgrade of calendarserver happens from 1.x to 2.x. For this, I > | wro

Re: using perl in preinst script

On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 04:53:11PM +0530, Rahul Amaram wrote: > Hi, > I am the maintainer for calendarserver. I have a query reg. preinst > script. I need to perform some action during preinst before the upgrade of > calendarserver happens from 1.x to 2.x. For this, I wrote the necessary > code in

Re: using perl in preinst script

]] Rahul Amaram | I am the maintainer for calendarserver. I have a query reg. preinst | script. I need to perform some action during preinst before the upgrade of | calendarserver happens from 1.x to 2.x. For this, I wrote the necessary | code in python in preinst script. But this was rejected i

Re: using perl in preinst script

On Mon, 27 Dec 2010 16:53:11 +0530 Rahul Amaram wrote: > As the upgrade code has to parse .plist files, writing shell script > would be a very difficult task. So I would like to know what are my > other options? Could I write it in perl? $ file /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.preinst|grep -v "shell script

using perl in preinst script

Hi, I am the maintainer for calendarserver. I have a query reg. preinst script. I need to perform some action during preinst before the upgrade of calendarserver happens from 1.x to 2.x. For this, I wrote the necessary code in python in preinst script. But this was rejected into being accepted int