On Mon, 2019-07-15 at 00:00 +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Hello.
>
> Theodore Ts'o - 14.07.19, 22:07:
> > So requiring support of non-systemd ecosystems is in general, going to
> > require extra testing. In the case of cron/systemd.timers, this
> > means testing and/or careful code inspectio
Peter Pentchev writes:
> On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 12:30:16PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> There seems to be a clear infrastructure gap for the non-systemd world
>> here that's crying out for some inetd-style program that implements the
>> equivalent of systemd socket activation and socket passing
Hi,
On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 01:49:04PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote:
> > In the same way, we could implement "service monitoring" in sysvinit by
> > adding an "inittab.d" directory, but I'm fairly sure that I'm not the first
> > person who had this idea in the last thirty years, so there is probabl
On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 6:48 PM Simon Richter wrote:
> The main limitation seems to be that it's not permitted to modify
> inetd.conf from maintainer scripts. We could probably "fix" this by adding
> an "inetd.conf.d" mechanism.
There is update-inetd, but it doesn't support xinetd and doesn't
app
On Mon, 2019-07-15 at 12:30:09 +0200, Simon Richter wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 07:23:31PM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote:
> > Some systemd system services are meant to start on-demand via socket
> > events (systemd.socket(5)), and can work via inetd on non-systemd-booted
> > systems. micro-httpd
On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 12:30:16PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Vincent Bernat writes:
>
> > inetd uses stdin/stdout to communicate with the daemon and have to
> > launch one instance for each client connecting. systemd.socket pass a
> > regular listening socket on first connection to the daemon
Hi,
On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 07:23:31PM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote:
> Some systemd system services are meant to start on-demand via socket
> events (systemd.socket(5)), and can work via inetd on non-systemd-booted
> systems. micro-httpd appears to be an example of this - I'm a bit surprised
> the
Vincent Bernat writes:
> ❦ 14 juillet 2019 12:30 -07, Russ Allbery :
>> There seems to be a clear infrastructure gap for the non-systemd world
>> here that's crying out for some inetd-style program that implements the
>> equivalent of systemd socket activation and socket passing using the
>> sam
Hello.
Theodore Ts'o - 14.07.19, 22:07:
> So requiring support of non-systemd ecosystems is in general, going to
> require extra testing. In the case of cron/systemd.timers, this
> means testing and/or careful code inspection to make sure the
> following cases work:
>
> * systemd && cron
❦ 14 juillet 2019 12:30 -07, Russ Allbery :
> There seems to be a clear infrastructure gap for the non-systemd world
> here that's crying out for some inetd-style program that implements the
> equivalent of systemd socket activation and socket passing using the same
> protocol, so that upstreams
On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 07:23:31PM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote:
> micro-httpd appears to be an example of this - I'm a bit surprised
> there aren't more. Perhaps this indicates limitations in the infrastructure
> around inetd services making it hard to implement "use systemd.socket(5)
> under syste
Vincent Bernat writes:
> inetd uses stdin/stdout to communicate with the daemon and have to
> launch one instance for each client connecting. systemd.socket pass a
> regular listening socket on first connection to the daemon and the
> daemon can then serve multiple clients.
I believe the wait op
❦ 14 juillet 2019 19:23 +01, Simon McVittie :
> Some systemd system services are meant to start on-demand via socket
> events (systemd.socket(5)), and can work via inetd on non-systemd-booted
> systems. micro-httpd appears to be an example of this - I'm a bit surprised
> there aren't more. Perhap
On Sun, 14 Jul 2019 at 09:21:37 -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> P.S. I'm going to be adding an override in e2fsprogs for
> package-supports-alternative-init-but-no-init.d-script because it
> has false positive, regardless of its claim:
>
> N:Severity: important, Certainty: certain
>
> It most
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