Re: software outside Debian (Re: holes in secure apt)

2014-06-24 Thread Guido Günther
On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 11:26:43AM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote: [..snip..] > [1] I'm aware that certain libraries do restart services affected by the > upgrade, but there's no generic framework for this. whatmaps[A] hooks into the apt pipeline for that and looks for shared objects coming in via secu

Re: software outside Debian (Re: holes in secure apt)

2014-06-24 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2014-06-23 17:33, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: Well I just think that most of the time, our Security Team does some very great job (if not hiding away issues o.O) and fixes are available in Debian very shortly after a fix is available. These guys put a lot effort into that, but their quick

Re: software outside Debian (Re: holes in secure apt)

2014-06-23 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Adam D. Barratt , 2014-06-23, 14:24: * Christoph Anton Mitterer , 2014-06-22, 04:34: There are a few mechanisms to mitigate downgrade attacks within the archive: * Valid-Until fields in the Release files; I still think the time spans are far too long here... For the record, the validity pe

Re: software outside Debian (Re: holes in secure apt)

2014-06-23 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
For the interested: On Mon, 2014-06-23 at 14:42 +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote: > "reportbug ftp.debian.org" for unstable and experimental; #752450 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

Re: software outside Debian (Re: holes in secure apt)

2014-06-23 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Mon, 2014-06-23 at 14:42 +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote: > For the record, the validity periods currently are: > > unstable, experimental: 7 days > testing: 7 days > > wheezy: no limit > wheezy(-proposed)-updates: 7 days > wheezy/updates at security.d.o: 10 days > wheezy-backports: 7 days > > squee

Re: software outside Debian (Re: holes in secure apt)

2014-06-23 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On 2014-06-23 13:42, Jakub Wilk wrote: * Christoph Anton Mitterer , 2014-06-22, 04:34: There are a few mechanisms to mitigate downgrade attacks within the archive: * Valid-Until fields in the Release files; I still think the time spans are far too long here... For the record, the validity pe

Re: software outside Debian (Re: holes in secure apt)

2014-06-23 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Christoph Anton Mitterer , 2014-06-22, 04:34: There are a few mechanisms to mitigate downgrade attacks within the archive: * Valid-Until fields in the Release files; I still think the time spans are far too long here... For the record, the validity periods currently are: unstable, experime