Re: so, systemd now and teh world still turns...

2014-06-25 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Svante Signell: > Thanks to the systemd-must-die package I've prevented a new sneak in of > systemd-sysv on one of my computers. (have to get rid of the one already > there, time to boot is minutes and time from login to desktop is also > minutes :-( Faster boot, bah!) > Please take a closer

Re: so, systemd now and teh world still turns...

2014-06-24 Thread Svante Signell
On Thu, 2014-06-05 at 01:13 +0100, Steven Chamberlain wrote: > Hi Svante, > > The official source of it is here: > http://users.unixforge.de/~tglaser/debs/dists/etch/wtf/Pkgs/mirabilos-support/ > > That was announced in this thread (which you started!) : > https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/20

Re: so, systemd now and teh world still turns...

2014-06-07 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Steven, On Mittwoch, 4. Juni 2014, Steven Chamberlain wrote: > So in order for task-xfce-desktop to get tested, we could do: > > apt-get install --no-install-recommends task-xfce-desktop > > [...] not sure what you mean, piuparts does this, yes. > > The following NEW packages will be install

Re: so, systemd now and teh world still turns...

2014-06-05 Thread The Wanderer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 06/05/2014 04:05 AM, Thorsten Glaser wrote: >> From: Andrei POPESCU > >> Why bother when a simple pin will do the job: > > Because installing a package is cleaner than modifying some > configuration file, and because APT pinning is sometimes f

Re: so, systemd now and teh world still turns...

2014-06-05 Thread Thorsten Glaser
> From: Andrei POPESCU >Why bother when a simple pin will do the job: Because installing a package is cleaner than modifying some configuration file, and because APT pinning is sometimes fragile and can have interactions with other pinning stanzas and is something IMHO reserved for the local a

Re: so, systemd now and teh world still turns...

2014-06-04 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 05 iun 14, 01:13:23, Steven Chamberlain wrote: > Hi Svante, > > The official source of it is here: > http://users.unixforge.de/~tglaser/debs/dists/etch/wtf/Pkgs/mirabilos-support/ > > That was announced in this thread (which you started!) : > https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/05/m

Re: so, systemd now and teh world still turns...

2014-06-04 Thread Steven Chamberlain
Hi Svante, The official source of it is here: http://users.unixforge.de/~tglaser/debs/dists/etch/wtf/Pkgs/mirabilos-support/ That was announced in this thread (which you started!) : https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/05/msg00271.html Remember to also set the package as 'held', or else AP

Re: so, systemd now and teh world still turns...

2014-06-04 Thread Svante Signell
On Wed, 2014-06-04 at 02:00 +0100, Steven Chamberlain wrote: ... > To check there were no systemd dependencies, I had systemd-must-die > metapackage installed and held ;) It's actually very useful for this: > apt-get exits with status 100 if there's a dependency conflict, so I was > able to test

Re: so, systemd now and teh world still turns...

2014-06-04 Thread Steven Chamberlain
On Wed, 4 Jun 2014 13:10:19 +0200, Holger Levsen: > No, piuparts tests packages. And if it package is buggy it wont test packages > which depend on this buggy package as it's very hard to decide where the kind > of buggyness piuparts detects comes from. So in order for task-xfce-desktop to get t

Re: so, systemd now and teh world still turns...

2014-06-04 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Mittwoch, 4. Juni 2014, Steven Chamberlain wrote: > > thanks for taking this to the list and for doing some further > > investigations. That's quite among the best possible outcomes of that > > blog post of mine ;-) > Just wait until the press get hold of it... shrugs. As long as it result

Re: so, systemd now and teh world still turns...

2014-06-03 Thread Steven Chamberlain
On 03/06/14 23:10, Holger Levsen wrote: > thanks for taking this to the list and for doing some further investigations. > That's quite among the best possible outcomes of that blog post of mine ;-) Just wait until the press get hold of it... > piuparts has not gotten this far with testing yet (o

Re: so, systemd now and teh world still turns...

2014-06-03 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Steven, thanks for taking this to the list and for doing some further investigations. That's quite among the best possible outcomes of that blog post of mine ;-) On Dienstag, 3. Juni 2014, Steven Chamberlain wrote: > I've taken a look in linux-amd64 sid and it is mostly true. thats what I'm

Re: so, systemd now and teh world still turns...

2014-06-03 Thread Simon McVittie
On 03/06/14 20:50, Steven Chamberlain wrote: > I notice gnome-session-bin recently gained a dependency on systemd libs Depending on libsystemd-journal0, libsystemd-login0 on Linux doesn't mean "depends on systemd", only "has some amount of integration with systemd" (dbus has both dependencies on L

Re: so, systemd now and teh world still turns...

2014-06-03 Thread Steven Chamberlain
On 03/06/14 19:46, Steven Chamberlain wrote: > On Tue Jun 3 14:16:40 2014, Holger Levsen wrote: >> currently all major desktops in jessie depend on 'systemd-sysv' > > Ouch... really? (Is it not just a glitch evaluating OR'd dependencies > or something?) I've taken a look in linux-amd64 sid and