Re: reportbug defaults [Re: Bug#367200: ITP: libemail-send-perl -- Simply Sending Email]

2006-05-22 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Wed, 17 May 2006, Henning Makholm wrote: >> How does sending directly to from reportbug to an ISP's smarthost >> validate the user's email address better than sending directly from >> reportbug to a HTTP POST somewhere? > I'm talking about an HTTP a

Re: reportbug defaults [Re: Bug#367200: ITP: libemail-send-perl -- Simply Sending Email]

2006-05-17 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 17 May 2006, Henning Makholm wrote: > Scripsit Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> What about modifying it to work through something like an http POST? > > > I'm personally not too terribly interested in implementing an HTTP > > access method for the BTS, because it makes it more easy f

Re: reportbug defaults [Re: Bug#367200: ITP: libemail-send-perl -- Simply Sending Email]

2006-05-17 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 17 May 2006, Ron Johnson wrote: > It blocks *incoming* port 25 traffic for well understood reasons. Yes, purely commercial reasons. > I never knew, though that it also blocks all *outgoing* smtp > traffic except to it's own servers. Maybe to Winbots from emailing > files back "home"? Ye

Re: reportbug defaults [Re: Bug#367200: ITP: libemail-send-perl -- Simply Sending Email]

2006-05-17 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 22:47 +0200, Michal Čihař wrote: > On Wed, 17 May 2006 10:44:19 -0500 > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Interesting. b.d.o doesn't seem to be answering on port 25 though. > > Doesn't your provider block port 25? > > $ telnet bugs.debian.org 25 > Trying 140.211

Re: reportbug defaults [Re: Bug#367200: ITP: libemail-send-perl -- Simply Sending Email]

2006-05-17 Thread Michal Čihař
On Wed, 17 May 2006 10:44:19 -0500 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Interesting. b.d.o doesn't seem to be answering on port 25 though. Doesn't your provider block port 25? $ telnet bugs.debian.org 25 Trying 140.211.166.43... Connected to bugs.debian.org. Escape character is '^]'. 220 sp

Re: reportbug defaults [Re: Bug#367200: ITP: libemail-send-perl -- Simply Sending Email]

2006-05-17 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> What about modifying it to work through something like an http POST? > I'm personally not too terribly interested in implementing an HTTP > access method for the BTS, because it makes it more easy for bug > submissions to be sent from people who can n

Re: reportbug defaults [Re: Bug#367200: ITP: libemail-send-perl -- Simply Sending Email]

2006-05-17 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 10:41 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 00:24 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > >> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > >> > On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 08:44 -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > >> >> On

Re: reportbug defaults [Re: Bug#367200: ITP: libemail-send-perl -- Simply Sending Email]

2006-05-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 00:24 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 08:44 -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: >> >> On Tue, 16 May 2006, Ron Johnson wrote: >> >> > On the "home desktop" reportbug

Re: reportbug defaults

2006-05-17 Thread Florian Weimer
* Marco d'Itri: > On May 16, "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Except that many ISPs now block outbound port 25 (at least on >> consumer-level service), except for what is relayed through their mail >> servers. > Agreed. It's not reasonable to expect that port 25 connections fr

Re: reportbug defaults [Re: Bug#367200: ITP: libemail-send-perl -- Simply Sending Email]

2006-05-16 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 00:24 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 08:44 -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > >> On Tue, 16 May 2006, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> > On the "home desktop" reportbug uses Python's smtp library to send > >> > email

Re: reportbug defaults [Re: Bug#367200: ITP: libemail-send-perl -- Simply Sending Email]

2006-05-16 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 16 May 2006, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > Don Armstrong wrote: > > reportbug sends mail to wherever it is configured; the default > > setup should be to send mail to bugs.debian.org, not the ISP's > > smtp server, since that can't be known in advance. [I don't know > > if this is the default

Re: reportbug defaults [Re: Bug#367200: ITP: libemail-send-perl -- Simply Sending Email]

2006-05-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 08:44 -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: >> On Tue, 16 May 2006, Ron Johnson wrote: >> > On the "home desktop" reportbug uses Python's smtp library to send >> > email directly to the ISP's smtp server. And that's a good thing, >> > because,

Re: reportbug defaults [Re: Bug#367200: ITP: libemail-send-perl -- Simply Sending Email]

2006-05-16 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 08:44 -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Tue, 16 May 2006, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On the "home desktop" reportbug uses Python's smtp library to send > > email directly to the ISP's smtp server. And that's a good thing, > > because, for a long time, reportbug did not have that fe

Re: reportbug defaults [Re: Bug#367200: ITP: libemail-send-perl -- Simply Sending Email]

2006-05-16 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 13:20 -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > Don Armstrong wrote: > > > > reportbug sends mail to wherever it is configured; the default setup > > should be to send mail to bugs.debian.org, not the ISP's smtp server, > > since that can't be known in advance. [I don't know if this

Re: reportbug defaults [Re: Bug#367200: ITP: libemail-send-perl -- Simply Sending Email]

2006-05-16 Thread Marco d'Itri
On May 16, "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Except that many ISPs now block outbound port 25 (at least on > consumer-level service), except for what is relayed through their mail > servers. Agreed. It's not reasonable to expect that port 25 connections from large consumer ISPs wil

Re: reportbug defaults [Re: Bug#367200: ITP: libemail-send-perl -- Simply Sending Email]

2006-05-16 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Don Armstrong wrote: > > reportbug sends mail to wherever it is configured; the default setup > should be to send mail to bugs.debian.org, not the ISP's smtp server, > since that can't be known in advance. [I don't know if this is the > default now, but it should be the default.] > Except that m

reportbug defaults [Re: Bug#367200: ITP: libemail-send-perl -- Simply Sending Email]

2006-05-16 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 16 May 2006, Ron Johnson wrote: > On the "home desktop" reportbug uses Python's smtp library to send > email directly to the ISP's smtp server. And that's a good thing, > because, for a long time, reportbug did not have that feature, and > people who don't know how to configure MTAs were no