Re: planet.debian.org vs. blog illiteracy

2005-09-28 Thread Marc Haber
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 14:05:53 +0300, Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I don't think there is a working way of reliably doing that. In theory, >most web logs can do "categories", but those are not being used >consistently, and they're also not really visible on planet.debian.org >in a way t

Re: planet.debian.org vs. blog illiteracy

2005-09-28 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Sep 27, 2005 at 09:08:42AM +1000, Andrew Pollock wrote: > On Mon, Sep 26, 2005 at 03:25:05PM -0400, Decklin Foster wrote: > > I think a simple solution for this would be for the DWN people to read > > planet.debian.org and report on anything "important" that is seen there. > > Then you can

Re: planet.debian.org vs. blog illiteracy

2005-09-26 Thread David Moreno Garza
On Mon, 2005-09-26 at 19:36 +0200, Joey Hess wrote: > I agree that it's fairly annoying that none of the syndication formats > exported by Planet Debian include the author's email address. Having > to look up the email on db.debian.org is tirsesome. And well, AFAICT, not everybody in Planet Debia

Re: planet.debian.org vs. blog illiteracy

2005-09-26 Thread Andrew Pollock
On Mon, Sep 26, 2005 at 03:25:05PM -0400, Decklin Foster wrote: > W. Borgert writes: > > > I found out, that more and more important information about > > Debian development are on the planet.debian.org/.net website. > > I'm illiterate on "blogging", so please could someone tell me > > whether/how

Re: planet.debian.org vs. blog illiteracy

2005-09-26 Thread Mark Brown
On Mon, Sep 26, 2005 at 09:50:52PM +, W. Borgert wrote: > In the past, there were important blog entries by Martin Joey > Schulze on security, by Branden Robinson on Debian trademark > issues, and some interesting thoughts on the upload process by > Martin F. Krafft to name just a few. I'm pr

Re: planet.debian.org vs. blog illiteracy

2005-09-26 Thread W. Borgert
On Mon, Sep 26, 2005 at 12:35:36PM -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote: > I generally don't see any value in cluttering up -devel with the stuff I > post on my blog. I hope people who read it will find it interesting, but > it's not broadly important and I don't think there's any need to annoy large

Re: planet.debian.org vs. blog illiteracy

2005-09-26 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Monday 26 September 2005 06:26 am, Ben Armstrong wrote: > If it is so easy, why aren't bloggers doing this now?  There must be > some perceived value on the part of the bloggers to keeping limiting > their posts to their (presumably smaller? maybe that is a factor?) > blog-reading audience. I

Re: planet.debian.org vs. blog illiteracy

2005-09-26 Thread Decklin Foster
W. Borgert writes: > I found out, that more and more important information about > Debian development are on the planet.debian.org/.net website. > I'm illiterate on "blogging", so please could someone tell me > whether/how I can view this page in a "Debian only" mode? E.g. > without vacancy trave

Re: planet.debian.org vs. blog illiteracy

2005-09-26 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Sep 26, 2005 at 04:47:31PM +0100, Dick Davies wrote: > On 26/09/05, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you want to comment > > on someone's blog post, use a useful means of communication to do it. > > A lot of the planet debain blogs don't have contact details, and seem to rely >

Re: planet.debian.org vs. blog illiteracy

2005-09-26 Thread Joey Hess
Dick Davies wrote: > A lot of the planet debain blogs don't have contact details, and seem to rely > on trackbacks for feedback. > > That's fair enough but it is annoying to see something you want to add > to or correct and have to set up a blog of your own to do it. > > Plenty of other blogs hav

Re: planet.debian.org vs. blog illiteracy

2005-09-26 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ma, 2005-09-26 kello 16:47 +0100, Dick Davies kirjoitti: > On 26/09/05, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you want to comment > > on someone's blog post, use a useful means of communication to do it. > > A lot of the planet debain blogs don't have contact details, and seem to rely > on t

Re: planet.debian.org vs. blog illiteracy

2005-09-26 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Sep 26, Ben Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If it is so easy, why aren't bloggers doing this now? There must be I do it for my posts, when I believe it's needed. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: planet.debian.org vs. blog illiteracy

2005-09-26 Thread Dick Davies
On 26/09/05, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dick Davies wrote: > > And most of the blogs block comments, which is infuriating. There is > > blog software out there that allows them without getting hacked/filled with > > spam every other day, you know.. > > Web forums (including blog com

Re: planet.debian.org vs. blog illiteracy

2005-09-26 Thread Joey Hess
Dick Davies wrote: > And most of the blogs block comments, which is infuriating. There is > blog software out there that allows them without getting hacked/filled with > spam every other day, you know.. Web forums (including blog comments) are useless. If you want to comment on someone's blog

Re: planet.debian.org vs. blog illiteracy

2005-09-26 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ma, 2005-09-26 kello 10:26 -0300, Ben Armstrong kirjoitti: > On Mon, 2005-09-26 at 15:29 +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > > I think it's a much better and easier solution to use the structure we > > already have: the existing mailing lists. Copy-pasting a web log entry > > to an e-mail shouldn't be t

Re: planet.debian.org vs. blog illiteracy

2005-09-26 Thread W. Borgert
Quoting Margarita Manterola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I think that this is part of the essence of blogging. When you write > a mail to debian-devel you risk being flamed about whatever you are > saying. When you blog about it, it's your right to say what you think > and feel like. People managed to

Re: planet.debian.org vs. blog illiteracy

2005-09-26 Thread Dick Davies
On 26/09/05, Francesco P. Lovergine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Sep 26, 2005 at 03:13:17PM +0100, Dick Davies wrote: > > And most of the blogs block comments, which is infuriating. There is > > blog software out there that allows them without getting hacked/filled with > > spam every other

Re: planet.debian.org vs. blog illiteracy

2005-09-26 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Sep 26, 2005 at 03:13:17PM +0100, Dick Davies wrote: > On 26/09/05, Margarita Manterola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 9/26/05, W. Borgert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > IMHO, the blog has some drawbacks: > > > > > - answering to questions difficult (not as easy as pressing > > > 'r'

Re: planet.debian.org vs. blog illiteracy

2005-09-26 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Mon, Sep 26, 2005 at 03:13:17PM +0100, Dick Davies wrote: > And most of the blogs block comments, which is infuriating. There is > blog software out there that allows them without getting hacked/filled with > spam every other day, you know.. Could you cite at least one which does not requir

Re: planet.debian.org vs. blog illiteracy

2005-09-26 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Sep 26, 2005 at 08:46:16AM +, W. Borgert wrote: > Hi, > > I found out, that more and more important information about > Debian development are on the planet.debian.org/.net website. > I'm illiterate on "blogging", so please could someone tell me > whether/how I can view this page in a

Re: planet.debian.org vs. blog illiteracy

2005-09-26 Thread Dick Davies
On 26/09/05, Margarita Manterola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 9/26/05, W. Borgert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > IMHO, the blog has some drawbacks: > > > - answering to questions difficult (not as easy as pressing > > 'r'eply or 'g'roup reply in mutt) > > I think that this is part of the essen

Re: planet.debian.org vs. blog illiteracy

2005-09-26 Thread Michael Poole
Margarita Manterola writes: > On 9/26/05, W. Borgert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> IMHO, the blog has some drawbacks: > >> - answering to questions difficult (not as easy as pressing >> 'r'eply or 'g'roup reply in mutt) > > I think that this is part of the essence of blogging. When you write >

Re: planet.debian.org vs. blog illiteracy

2005-09-26 Thread Margarita Manterola
On 9/26/05, W. Borgert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > IMHO, the blog has some drawbacks: > - answering to questions difficult (not as easy as pressing > 'r'eply or 'g'roup reply in mutt) I think that this is part of the essence of blogging. When you write a mail to debian-devel you risk being fl

Re: planet.debian.org vs. blog illiteracy

2005-09-26 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Mon, 2005-09-26 at 15:29 +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > "Debian development issues" is a rather broad category. Should a travel > report from Debconf be included? I think it should, yet it is not at all > technical. Having a single "Debian development issues" feed is not going > to work particul

Re: planet.debian.org vs. blog illiteracy

2005-09-26 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ma, 2005-09-26 kello 09:13 -0300, Ben Armstrong kirjoitti: > On Mon, 2005-09-26 at 14:05 +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > > I don't think there is a working way of reliably doing that. In theory, > > most web logs can do "categories", but those are not being used > > consistently, and they're also no

Re: planet.debian.org vs. blog illiteracy

2005-09-26 Thread John Hasler
W. Borgert wrote: > (I would prefer to get all the technical information on > debian-devel Andreas writes: > Same for me who does not spent time in reading blogs. Me as well. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Re: planet.debian.org vs. blog illiteracy

2005-09-26 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Mon, 2005-09-26 at 14:05 +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > I don't think there is a working way of reliably doing that. In theory, > most web logs can do "categories", but those are not being used > consistently, and they're also not really visible on planet.debian.org > in a way that lets them be

Re: planet.debian.org vs. blog illiteracy

2005-09-26 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ma, 2005-09-26 kello 13:32 +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen kirjoitti: > [Nico Golde] > > AFAIK this will not happen because some people don't want > > their blog entries in a public archive. It is perfectly possible to set up an archived list based on opt-in principles: only archive web log entries fro

Re: planet.debian.org vs. blog illiteracy

2005-09-26 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Nico Golde] > AFAIK this will not happen because some people don't want > their blog entries in a public archive. Well, these people need to stop publishing their content on the Internet then, as all web page versions end up in the wayback machine, and thus their blog entry is already in a public

Re: planet.debian.org vs. blog illiteracy

2005-09-26 Thread W. Borgert
Quoting Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Use rss2email. It makes blogs almost as useful as maillists. Sounds OK, but it would be more convenient to just have all relevant (= technical) information in debian-devel. > Right, that's a real disadvantage. Everyone knows that debian-devel

Re: planet.debian.org vs. blog illiteracy

2005-09-26 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ma, 2005-09-26 kello 08:46 +, W. Borgert kirjoitti: > I found out, that more and more important information about > Debian development are on the planet.debian.org/.net website. > I'm illiterate on "blogging", so please could someone tell me > whether/how I can view this page in a "Debian only"

Re: planet.debian.org vs. blog illiteracy

2005-09-26 Thread Nico Golde
Hi, * Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-09-26 12:35]: > "W. Borgert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > > - not archived (or is it?) > > AFAIK, something like that is planned. AFAIK this will not happen because some people don't want their blog entries in a public archive. [...]

Re: planet.debian.org vs. blog illiteracy

2005-09-26 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
"W. Borgert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > IMHO, the blog has some drawbacks: > > - offline reading is difficult Use rss2email. It makes blogs almost as useful as maillists. > - answering to questions difficult (not as easy as pressing > 'r'eply or 'g'roup reply in mutt) That's true. > - not

Re: planet.debian.org vs. blog illiteracy

2005-09-26 Thread W. Borgert
Quoting Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Thanks for this hint - I just skipped this thread because I regarded > it relevant for blogs (and thus not for me). But I do not really want > a new list - I just want technical information neither spread to debian-devel > and planetdebian nor debian-de

Re: planet.debian.org vs. blog illiteracy

2005-09-26 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005, Nico Golde wrote: There was a discussion about this, see: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=323227 Thanks for this hint - I just skipped this thread because I regarded it relevant for blogs (and thus not for me). But I do not really want a new list - I just

Re: planet.debian.org vs. blog illiteracy

2005-09-26 Thread Nico Golde
Hi, * Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-09-26 11:01]: > On Mon, 26 Sep 2005, W. Borgert wrote: > > >(I would prefer to get all the technical information on > >debian-devel > > Same for me who does not spent time in reading blogs. (Sorry I'm > a little bit old fashioned, do not wear a mobile

Re: planet.debian.org vs. blog illiteracy

2005-09-26 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005, W. Borgert wrote: (I would prefer to get all the technical information on debian-devel Same for me who does not spent time in reading blogs. (Sorry I'm a little bit old fashioned, do not wear a mobile, sended less than 5 SMS messages in my whole life, ...) Thanks Wolfgang

planet.debian.org vs. blog illiteracy

2005-09-26 Thread W. Borgert
Hi, I found out, that more and more important information about Debian development are on the planet.debian.org/.net website. I'm illiterate on "blogging", so please could someone tell me whether/how I can view this page in a "Debian only" mode? E.g. without vacancy travel reports, personal opini