Re: ping for gtk+extra2 removal - implications for libgtkada2 and gpsim

2009-06-30 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
Neil Williams wrote: > On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:30:41 +0200 > Ludovic Brenta wrote: >> - I will prominently mark the package as deprecated and discourage >> new packages from using it. As part of this I will move the package >> to main/oldlibs. > > A note in the description is one way but are there

Re: ping for gtk+extra2 removal - implications for libgtkada2 and gpsim

2009-06-30 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 30 juin 2009 à 19:44 +0100, Neil Williams a écrit : > The main point is that using gtk+extra2 in an application makes it very > difficult to migrate that package to GTK+3.0 so I really don't want new > applications to use gtk+extra2. They should be migrated to use the widgets that already

Re: ping for gtk+extra2 removal - implications for libgtkada2 and gpsim

2009-06-30 Thread Neil Williams
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:30:41 +0200 Ludovic Brenta wrote: > > Yes, but that will also mean package using gtk-extra2 will not be > > able to link to gtk3, which is what Neil was saying IIUC. > > OK, not a big deal for as long as GTK+2 remains in Debian. The main point is that using gtk+extra2 in

Re: ping for gtk+extra2 removal - implications for libgtkada2 and gpsim

2009-06-30 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
Ludovic Brenta wrote: > OK, I think that explains it. Here is what I propose: > > - I will adopt the package gtk+extra and maintain it in Debian for as long as > GTK+2 is in Debian and libgtkada2 needs it. > - I will not update the package to use GTK+3. > - I will prominently mark the package as

Re: ping for gtk+extra2 removal - implications for libgtkada2 and gpsim

2009-06-30 Thread Ludovic Brenta
Selon Emilio Pozuelo Monfort : > Ludovic Brenta wrote: >> So, my understanting was correct then: gtk-extra2 will FTBFS only when >> you remove GTK+2 from Debian, not when you introduce GTK+3. > > Yes, but that will also mean package using gtk-extra2 will not be able to > link to gtk3, which is wha

Re: ping for gtk+extra2 removal - implications for libgtkada2 and gpsim

2009-06-30 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
Ludovic Brenta wrote: > So, my understanting was correct then: gtk-extra2 will FTBFS only when you > remove GTK+2 from Debian, not when you introduce GTK+3. Yes, but that will also mean package using gtk-extra2 will not be able to link to gtk3, which is what Neil was saying IIUC. > Joss, can you

Re: ping for gtk+extra2 removal - implications for libgtkada2 and gpsim

2009-06-30 Thread Ludovic Brenta
Selon Josselin Mouette : > Le lundi 29 juin 2009 à 23:30 +0100, Neil Williams a écrit : > > On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:19:45 +0100 > > Neil Williams wrote: > > > > > gtk+extra2 will FTBFS as soon as the functions that will be removed in > > > GTK+3.0 become deprecated in GTK+2.0. GTK+2.0 doesn't have

Re: ping for gtk+extra2 removal - implications for libgtkada2 and gpsim

2009-06-30 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 29 juin 2009 à 23:30 +0100, Neil Williams a écrit : > On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:19:45 +0100 > Neil Williams wrote: > > > gtk+extra2 will FTBFS as soon as the functions that will be removed in > > GTK+3.0 become deprecated in GTK+2.0. GTK+2.0 doesn't have to be > > removed from Debian for gt

Re: ping for gtk+extra2 removal - implications for libgtkada2 and gpsim

2009-06-29 Thread Neil Williams
On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:19:45 +0100 Neil Williams wrote: > gtk+extra2 will FTBFS as soon as the functions that will be removed in > GTK+3.0 become deprecated in GTK+2.0. GTK+2.0 doesn't have to be > removed from Debian for gtk+extra2 to break. Yes, that isn't how > things *should* work and it isn'

Re: ping for gtk+extra2 removal - implications for libgtkada2 and gpsim

2009-06-29 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
Josselin Mouette wrote: > This is easy to do by advance. If your library builds with > -DG_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGDK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED > -DGTK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED, it will only require minor changes to work > with GTK+ 3. Plus -DGDK_PIXBUF_DISABLE_DEPRECATED Cheers, Emilio signature.asc Descrip

Re: ping for gtk+extra2 removal - implications for libgtkada2 and gpsim

2009-06-29 Thread Neil Williams
On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:56:30 +0200 Ludovic Brenta wrote: > Neil Williams writes: > > OK, there is a bug report already asking for libgtkada to not > > build-depend on gtk+extra2 (#534872) but I don't see how using an > > embedded copy is going to solve the problem. > > > > The embedded copy is j

Re: ping for gtk+extra2 removal - implications for libgtkada2 and gpsim

2009-06-29 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 29 juin 2009 à 22:56 +0200, Ludovic Brenta a écrit : > Right; I realized that while thinking a bit about the issue earlier > today. Then I went to gtk.org and it seems that GTK+3 is still many > months away from release. > > Is there a published roadmap for when GTK+2 is removed from Deb

Re: ping for gtk+extra2 removal - implications for libgtkada2 and gpsim

2009-06-29 Thread Ludovic Brenta
Neil Williams writes: > OK, there is a bug report already asking for libgtkada to not > build-depend on gtk+extra2 (#534872) but I don't see how using an > embedded copy is going to solve the problem. > > The embedded copy is just going to break in precisely the same way as > the copy packaged as

Re: ping for gtk+extra2 removal - implications for libgtkada2 and gpsim

2009-06-29 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:31:17 +0200 Ludovic Brenta wrote: > Neil Williams writes: > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2009/05/msg00627.html > > > > One month on and I've heard nothing from the other maintainers with > > packages that depend on gtk+extra2 or from anyone else interested in > >

Re: ping for gtk+extra2 removal - implications for libgtkada2 and gpsim

2009-06-28 Thread Ludovic Brenta
Neil Williams writes: > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2009/05/msg00627.html > > One month on and I've heard nothing from the other maintainers with > packages that depend on gtk+extra2 or from anyone else interested in > porting gtk+extra2 (or even just GtkSheet) to Gtk3.0. > > I therefore

ping for gtk+extra2 removal - implications for libgtkada2 and gpsim

2009-06-27 Thread Neil Williams
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2009/05/msg00627.html One month on and I've heard nothing from the other maintainers with packages that depend on gtk+extra2 or from anyone else interested in porting gtk+extra2 (or even just GtkSheet) to Gtk3.0. I therefore propose to seek pre-emptive removal