Re: on bootstrapping ports (was: Re: Bits from the Release Team (Jessie freeze info))

2013-10-29 Thread Daniel Schepler
On Monday, October 28, 2013 12:15:09 PM Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > Le 27/10/2013 16:30, Daniel Schepler a écrit : > > (To be honest, the > > Java packages are such a tangled mess that I've given up on trying to > > bootstrap that part of the archive for now -- and many of those do get > > pulled into

Re: on bootstrapping ports (was: Re: Bits from the Release Team (Jessie freeze info))

2013-10-28 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 27/10/2013 16:30, Daniel Schepler a écrit : > (To be honest, the > Java packages are such a tangled mess that I've given up on trying to > bootstrap that part of the archive for now -- and many of those do get pulled > into the minimal set of ca. 1473 source packages I get with my criteria.)

Re: on bootstrapping ports (was: Re: Bits from the Release Team (Jessie freeze info))

2013-10-27 Thread Matthias Klose
Am 27.10.2013 16:06, schrieb Daniel Schepler: > Johannes Schauer wrote: >> Indeed, none of the Type 1 Self-Cycles are needed to bootstrap the core of >> Debian. Unfortunately though, most of the Type 2 Self-Cycles are. You will > find >> many surprising (at least to me) examples in the section of

Re: on bootstrapping ports (was: Re: Bits from the Release Team (Jessie freeze info))

2013-10-27 Thread Johannes Schauer
Hi Daniel, Quoting Daniel Schepler (2013-10-27 16:06:43) > Johannes Schauer wrote: > > Indeed, none of the Type 1 Self-Cycles are needed to bootstrap the core of > > Debian. Unfortunately though, most of the Type 2 Self-Cycles are. You will > find > > many surprising (at least to me) examples in

Re: on bootstrapping ports (was: Re: Bits from the Release Team (Jessie freeze info))

2013-10-27 Thread Daniel Schepler
Johannes Schauer wrote: > Indeed, none of the Type 1 Self-Cycles are needed to bootstrap the core of > Debian. Unfortunately though, most of the Type 2 Self-Cycles are. You will find > many surprising (at least to me) examples in the section of "Type 2 > Self-Cycles" under the above link. On the

Re: on bootstrapping ports (was: Re: Bits from the Release Team (Jessie freeze info))

2013-10-27 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Johannes Schauer wrote: > Surely every maintainer of source packages involved in a Type 1 Self-Cycle > knows about this issue. Because Type 2 Self-Cycles are non-obvious we could in > the future (once build profiles are available) embed this information in the > pt

on bootstrapping ports (was: Re: Bits from the Release Team (Jessie freeze info))

2013-10-27 Thread Johannes Schauer
Hi Peter, Quoting peter green (2013-10-27 01:11:24) > Johannes Schauer wrote: > > Until these two issues are fixed we will not be able to get an algorithmic > > answer to the question of what constitutes the minimum required set of > > packages. > > > There is also the complication of what I wi