Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-03-02 Thread Bill Allombert
On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 02:20:29PM -0500, Brendan wrote: > On Friday 25 February 2005 05:39 am, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Fri, 2005-02-25 at 10:36 +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > > On Feb 25, giskard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > many people who I know, especially artists who use free software,

Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-03-02 Thread Brendan
On Friday 25 February 2005 05:39 am, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Fri, 2005-02-25 at 10:36 +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > On Feb 25, giskard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > many people who I know, especially artists who use free software, often > > > use the reproduction in ascii art (new kind of art).

Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-02-28 Thread Cedric De Wilde
On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 01:29:03PM +0100, Sebastien NOEL wrote: > > I don't know how many times this can be said: non-us is *not a > > solution* to patents affecting the US, and never has been. > > and what now ? > > ok non-us is not the solution. but does it mean that there is no > solution at a

Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-02-28 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
A Mennucc wrote: > and there are wonderful feats that 'mplayer' that do not need : decss, > faad, lame & xvid Why should Debian's mplayer be unable to support XVID? The MPEG4 codec from libavcodec will play any XVID just fine and libavcodec is already part of Debian in xine-lib and ffmpeg. Chee

Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-02-28 Thread Sebastien NOEL
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 19:40:35 -0500, you wrote: > > (according to /usr/share/doc/ffmpeg/patents.txt.gz) > I hope that isn't a file with descriptions of patents--anyone who > reads such a thing would risk increased patent liability. I'd rather > not look for myself to find out, though. omfg. it's n

Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-02-28 Thread Sebastien NOEL
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 10:19:37 +0100 A Mennucc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >* Why the "--disable-mencoder" in debian/rules ? > > > my original thought was : > since LAME is not in Debian , then 'mencoder' will not be very useful > > but then some people pointed out that there are many interesti

Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-02-28 Thread Paul Hampson
On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 10:19:37AM +0100, A Mennucc wrote: > Sebastien NOEL wrote: > >I have some questions about your package: > >* You build libavcodec and libavformat but that seems to me a waste of > >time. > > FFmpeg is already in main, why not only link mplayer with > > libavcodec.a (

Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-02-28 Thread A Mennucc
Sebastien NOEL wrote: I have some questions about your package: * Why the "--disable-mencoder" in debian/rules ? my original thought was : since LAME is not in Debian , then 'mencoder' will not be very useful but then some people pointed out that there are many interesting things that c

Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-02-25 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * giskard [Fri, Feb 25 2005, 01:22:18PM]: > > Those who want to use the aa backend can use -vo sdl:aa if > > libsdl1.2debian-all is installed (and the mplayer package is compiled > > with sdl support). > > [13:11:3Size: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ apt-cache show > libsdl1.2debian-all > Depend

Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-02-25 Thread giskard
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 12:38:39 +0200 Petri Latvala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 10:36:21AM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > On Feb 25, giskard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > many people who I know, especially artists who use free software, > > > often use the reproductio

Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-02-25 Thread giskard
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 10:36:21 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) wrote: > On Feb 25, giskard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > many people who I know, especially artists who use free software, > > often use the reproduction in ascii art (new kind of art). > The artists you know are not many pe

Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-02-25 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Ron Johnson] > "I just don't understand how Reagan got elected. No one I know > voted for him!" > > In other words, just because *you* don't know anyone who uses AA, > that doesn't mean that a decent number of people *do* use AA. You are absolutely right. :) But there is always a chance of som

Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-02-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2005-02-25 at 10:36 +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Feb 25, giskard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > many people who I know, especially artists who use free software, often > > use the reproduction in ascii art (new kind of art). > The artists you know are not many people and they are not

Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-02-25 Thread Petri Latvala
On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 10:36:21AM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Feb 25, giskard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > many people who I know, especially artists who use free software, often > > use the reproduction in ascii art (new kind of art). > The artists you know are not many people and they a

Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-02-25 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Feb 25, giskard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > many people who I know, especially artists who use free software, often > use the reproduction in ascii art (new kind of art). The artists you know are not many people and they are not representative of the user base in any way. -- ciao, Marco si

Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-02-25 Thread giskard
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 19:40:35 -0500 Glenn Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > * Why the "--disable-aa" ? > > Ok caca is better than aa but it's not enabled either. > > libaa, the ASCII art library? I'd hope that'd be disabled in the > normal build. It's a useless novelty; I certain

Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-02-24 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Thu, Feb 24, 2005 at 10:08:42PM +0100, Sebastien NOEL wrote: > * You removed libmpdvdkit2/ because US laws suck. > Why don't you remove also libfaad2/ which is full of patents problems ? > (according to /usr/share/doc/ffmpeg/patents.txt.gz) I hope that isn't a file with descriptions o

Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-02-24 Thread Sebastien NOEL
Hi, I have some questions about your package: * You removed libmpdvdkit2/ because US laws suck. Why don't you remove also libfaad2/ which is full of patents problems ? (according to /usr/share/doc/ffmpeg/patents.txt.gz) * Why the "--disable-mencoder" in debian/rules ? * Why the "

Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-02-20 Thread Andrea Mennucc
hi I have uploaded mplayer 1.0pre6a-3 It ships a correctly repackaged upstream source; it has a 'debian/rules get-orig-source' (as asked in debian-devel) that creates the .orig.tar.gz It should appear in http://qa.debian.org/~anibal/debian-NEW.html and in I will put a copy in http://tonelli.sns

Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-02-17 Thread Adeodato Simó
* A Mennucc [Tue, 15 Feb 2005 09:52:15 +0100]: > Henning Makholm wrote: > >That is not a valid reason to pretend it is a native package. The > >correct thing to do is to create a new .orig.tar.gz with the offending > >files removed from it, but keep the rest of the .orig.tar.gz > >unchanged. > I

Re: [Fwd: Re: mplayer, the time has come]

2005-02-17 Thread A Mennucc
just my 2 cents: mplayer _does not depend_ on the win32codecs : it will work quite fine without them, and still be able to play an humungous number of video formats and codecs. The win32codecs are purely optional. a. Matthew Garrett wrote: MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So, this looks lik

Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-02-15 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit A Mennucc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > debianizer - isn't there a debian/rules way to do this now? > no way at all Yes way. See "debian/rules get-orig-source" in policy. Rest of reply in debian-legal. Why are you posting the same thing separately to two different lists? -- Henning Makholm

Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-02-15 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, A Mennucc wrote: > Henning Makholm wrote: > >Scripsit [EMAIL PROTECTED] (A Mennucc) > >That is not a valid reason to pretend it is a native package. The > > > I object to this > > a file mplayerorig.tar.gz is, as the name says, the original > distributed source St

Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-02-15 Thread Frank Küster
A Mennucc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [please, please repair your quoting mechanism. Done that for you in this mail]. > Henning Makholm wrote: > >> That is not a valid reason to pretend it is a native package. The >> correct thing to do is to create a new .orig.tar.gz with the offending >> file

Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-02-15 Thread Joshua Kwan
A Mennucc wrote: I object to this a file mplayerorig.tar.gz is, as the name says, the original distributed source distributing my modified tar.gz disguising it as the upstream original one would be cause of confusion All of the kernel-source packages that need it have an orig.tar.gz with

Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-02-15 Thread A Mennucc
Henning Makholm wrote: Scripsit [EMAIL PROTECTED] (A Mennucc) Solution: the DeCSS is deleted from the package proposed for Debian (for this reason, I upload mplayer as a native package); That is not a valid reason to pretend it is a native package. The correct thing

Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-02-15 Thread A Mennucc
MJ Ray wrote: Andrea Mennucc wrote: I have uploaded a new version of the 'mplayer' package for Debian, namely version 1.0pre6-1 I have reviewed this package, but I've not tried building it. Here are my first comments, split under your headings. --- HISTORY and

Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-02-15 Thread A Mennucc
Ken Bloom wrote: On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 11:46:38 +0100, A Mennucc wrote: There have been two main problems keeping mplayer out of Debian: licenses and copyrights. Licenses: the upstream code contains some code that is protected by (more or less) actively enforced licenses: DeCSS code to decode encr

Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-02-14 Thread Joshua Kwan
Ken Bloom wrote: Solution: the DeCSS is deleted from the package proposed for Debian What functionality do we lose by doing this? --Ken Bloom The ability to play any DVD you buy in a store? It's the same functionality Xine loses; however, if mplayer uses dvdread, it'll automatically use libdvdcss

Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-02-14 Thread Pierre Habouzit
Le Mar 15 FÃvrier 2005 03:02, Ken Bloom a Ãcrit : > On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 11:46:38 +0100, A Mennucc wrote: > > There have been two main problems keeping mplayer out of Debian: > > licenses and copyrights. > > > > Licenses: > > the upstream code contains some code that is protected by (more or > > les

Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-02-14 Thread Ken Bloom
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 11:46:38 +0100, A Mennucc wrote: > There have been two main problems keeping mplayer out of Debian: licenses > and copyrights. > > Licenses: > the upstream code contains some code that is protected by (more or less) > actively enforced licenses: DeCSS code to decode encrypted d

Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-02-14 Thread David Moreno Garza
On Mon, 2005-02-14 at 11:46 +0100, A Mennucc wrote: > (Unfortunately it does not show yet in the new queue at > http://qa.debian.org/~anibal/debian-NEW.html It does show on the summary. Since there were previous mplayer packages on NEW, it is listed inside the row of the first package timestamp

Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-02-14 Thread Josh Triplett
A Mennucc wrote: > mplayer_1.0pre6a-1_i386.deb is linked against libxvidcore > > sorry folks > > I have compiled and uploaded mplayer_1.0pre6a-2_i386.deb > > it is also accessible at > http://tonelli.sns.it/pub/mplayer/sarge > > thanx emfox for pointing out Given the acceptance of ffmpeg, I can

Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-02-14 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit [EMAIL PROTECTED] (A Mennucc) > Solution: > the DeCSS is deleted from the package proposed for Debian > (for this reason, I upload mplayer as a native package); That is not a valid reason to pretend it is a native package. The correct thing to do is to create a new .orig.tar.gz with t

Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-02-14 Thread Nico Golde
Hi, * A Mennucc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-02-14 15:53]: > > mplayer_1.0pre6a-1_i386.deb is linked against libxvidcore > > sorry folks > > I have compiled and uploaded mplayer_1.0pre6a-2_i386.deb > > it is also accessible at > http://tonelli.sns.it/pub/mplayer/sarge > > thanx emfox for poi

Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-02-14 Thread A Mennucc
mplayer_1.0pre6a-1_i386.deb is linked against libxvidcore sorry folks I have compiled and uploaded mplayer_1.0pre6a-2_i386.deb it is also accessible at http://tonelli.sns.it/pub/mplayer/sarge thanx emfox for pointing out a. -- Andrea Mennucc "Ukn ow,Ifina llyfixe dmysp acebar.ohwh att

Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-02-14 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2005-02-14 at 06:52 -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Mon, 2005-02-14 at 11:46 +0100, A Mennucc wrote: > > hi > > > > I have uploaded a new version of the 'mplayer' package for Debian, > > namely version 1.0pre6-1 > > > > (Unfortunately it does not show yet in the new queue at > > http://

Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-02-14 Thread Josselin Mouette
Greg Folkert wrote: What about the Packages for mplayer that Christian Marillat has been providing for years? Have you even discussed this with him? Hrm, you don't know him, do you? Otherwise you wouldn't be suggesting to discuss with him. -- .''`. Josselin Mouette/\./\ : :' :

Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-02-14 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Feb 14, Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What about the Packages for mplayer that Christian Marillat has been > providing for years? It's well known that he is not interested in having them become part of Debian. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-02-14 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2005-02-14 at 11:46 +0100, A Mennucc wrote: > hi > > I have uploaded a new version of the 'mplayer' package for Debian, > namely version 1.0pre6-1 > > (Unfortunately it does not show yet in the new queue at > http://qa.debian.org/~anibal/debian-NEW.html > but it is also accessible at

Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-02-14 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach A Mennucc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.02.14.1146 +0100]: > I have uploaded a new version of the 'mplayer' package for Debian, > namely version 1.0pre6-1 Great. At least in the eyes of our (prospective) users, this was one major hurdle. Now let's hope that the ftpmasters look into NEW at

mplayer, the time has come

2005-02-14 Thread A Mennucc
hi I have uploaded a new version of the 'mplayer' package for Debian, namely version 1.0pre6-1 (Unfortunately it does not show yet in the new queue at http://qa.debian.org/~anibal/debian-NEW.html but it is also accessible at http://tonelli.sns.it/pub/mplayer/sarge ) I REALLY think that the t