Re: installer for non-free packages in contrib

2003-09-09 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Tue, Sep 09, 2003, Colin Watson wrote: > > It could be something like debian/track where 'track' is a list of files > > to be tracked by this package as if they were contained within it when > > it was built (even though they are actually downloaded during the package's > > postinst or by anoth

Re: installer for non-free packages in contrib

2003-09-09 Thread Andreas Metzler
Mathieu Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a tapoté : >> On Tue, Sep 09, 2003 at 09:17:13AM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote: >> > Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a tapot? : >> > > I asked you a question which could be answered quite simply by producing >> > > one of those w

Re: installer for non-free packages in contrib

2003-09-09 Thread Mathieu Roy
Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a tapoté : > On Tue, Sep 09, 2003 at 09:17:13AM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote: > > Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a tapot? : > > > I asked you a question which could be answered quite simply by producing > > > one of those ways. Go on. It's my honest belief that it ca

Re: installer for non-free packages in contrib

2003-09-09 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Sep 09, 2003 at 12:37:04AM -0500, Ryan Underwood wrote: > On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 10:13:59AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 09:35:45AM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote: > > > Would it be acceptable to fill a bug against each installer that do > > > not build a proper debian

Re: installer for non-free packages in contrib

2003-09-09 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Sep 09, 2003 at 01:24:07AM -0600, Bruce Sass wrote: > On Mon, 8 Sep 2003, Colin Watson wrote: > > * installs that package in such a way that it's registered in dpkg's > > database > > do the install in the background when the dpkg DB area is unlocked Yuck! Please, no! Error handling

Re: installer for non-free packages in contrib

2003-09-09 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Sep 09, 2003 at 09:17:13AM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote: > Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a tapot? : > > I asked you a question which could be answered quite simply by producing > > one of those ways. Go on. It's my honest belief that it can't be done > > correctly; I'm open to hearing ways i

Re: installer for non-free packages in contrib

2003-09-09 Thread Bruce Sass
On Mon, 8 Sep 2003, Colin Watson wrote: > OK. How does one create an installer package which correctly does the > following: > > * creates a Debian package for the thing it's installing the installer contains a diff and dsc, downloads the orig source, then builds a .deb > * installs that pack

Re: installer for non-free packages in contrib

2003-09-09 Thread Mathieu Roy
Ryan Underwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a tapoté : > Hi, > > On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 10:13:59AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 09:35:45AM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote: > > > Would it be acceptable to fill a bug against each installer that do > > > not build a proper debian package

Re: installer for non-free packages in contrib

2003-09-09 Thread Mathieu Roy
Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a tapoté : > > At this point, the question is not how to do it. I can think about 30 > > ways to do it, while I'm surely not the expert here. > > I asked you a question which could be answered quite simply by producing > one of those ways. Go on. It's my honest be

Re: installer for non-free packages in contrib

2003-09-09 Thread Andreas Metzler
Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > unless you think that it's better for the installer package to spit > out a .deb somewhere which you then have to install separately, > which seems to me like a step backwards in convenience. Depends, generating a deb has some bright sides: 'dpkg -S'

Re: installer for non-free packages in contrib

2003-09-09 Thread Ryan Underwood
Hi, On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 10:13:59AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 09:35:45AM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote: > > Would it be acceptable to fill a bug against each installer that do > > not build a proper debian package when installing non-free software? > > How can they do so

Re: installer for non-free packages in contrib

2003-09-08 Thread Travis Crump
Colin Watson wrote: ? I think that's a minimal specification for a correct installer package which does its work by creating Debian packages; unless you think that it's better for the installer package to spit out a .deb somewhere which you then have to install separately, which seems to me like a

Re: installer for non-free packages in contrib

2003-09-08 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 06:42:46PM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote: [Please stop sending me private copies of list mail.] > Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a tapot? : > > On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 01:08:34PM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote: > > > Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a tapot? : > > > > On Mon, Sep 0

Re: installer for non-free packages in contrib

2003-09-08 Thread Mathieu Roy
Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a tapoté : > On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 01:08:34PM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote: > > Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a tapot? : > > > On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 09:35:45AM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote: > > > > Would it be acceptable to fill a bug against each installer that do

Re: installer for non-free packages in contrib

2003-09-08 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 01:08:34PM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote: > Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a tapot? : > > On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 09:35:45AM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote: > > > Would it be acceptable to fill a bug against each installer that do > > > not build a proper debian package when installi

Re: installer for non-free packages in contrib

2003-09-08 Thread Mathieu Roy
Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a tapoté : > On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 09:35:45AM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote: > > Would it be acceptable to fill a bug against each installer that do > > not build a proper debian package when installing non-free software? > > How can they do so? Installing a package

Re: installer for non-free packages in contrib

2003-09-08 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 09:35:45AM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote: > Would it be acceptable to fill a bug against each installer that do > not build a proper debian package when installing non-free software? How can they do so? Installing a package with 'dpkg -i' in the postinst of another package isn't

Re: installer for non-free packages in contrib

2003-09-08 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 09:35:45AM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote: > I did not noticed clear answer about my proposal about the non-free > software installer in contrib. It might help if you posted a summary of the thread. > Would it be acceptable to fill a bug against each installer that do > not buil

installer for non-free packages in contrib

2003-09-08 Thread Mathieu Roy
Hi, I did not noticed clear answer about my proposal about the non-free software installer in contrib. Would it be acceptable to fill a bug against each installer that do not build a proper debian package when installing non-free software? If so, which severity is appropriate? I do not think tha