Re: init systems and Policy

2012-03-27 Thread Russ Allbery
Tollef Fog Heen writes: > The only case I've seen this cause problems is when you have an init > script that provides other verbs than systemctl does, since > /etc/init.d/foo $verb is translated into systemctl foo.service $verb It would be nice to say, in Policy, that systemd unit files can be s

Re: init systems and Policy

2012-03-27 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Simon McVittie > On 27/03/12 07:20, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > >> It is not clear to me the status of similar policy work for systemd, > >> although I see that systemd maintainers are participating in > >> #591791. Again, if you're interested in Debian switch to systemd, > >> please contribute t

Re: init systems and Policy

2012-03-27 Thread Simon McVittie
On 27/03/12 09:31, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > dh_installinit(1) in unstable already prefers > debian/package.upstart to debian/package.init and doesn't install > both when both are present. Right, that'd have to be reverted or otherwise avoided to support Upstart being optional. I still prefer th

Re: init systems and Policy

2012-03-27 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 10:48:12AM +0200, Svante Signell wrote: > On Tue, 2012-03-27 at 14:31 +0600, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 09:25:17AM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: > > > Ubuntu's version of debhelper includes changes to maintainer scripts to > > > avoid calling update

Re: init systems and Policy

2012-03-27 Thread Svante Signell
On Tue, 2012-03-27 at 14:31 +0600, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 09:25:17AM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: > > Ubuntu's version of debhelper includes changes to maintainer scripts to > > avoid calling update-rc.d for sysvinit scripts when there is a > > corresponding Upstart job

Re: init systems and Policy

2012-03-27 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 09:25:17AM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: > Ubuntu's version of debhelper includes changes to maintainer scripts to > avoid calling update-rc.d for sysvinit scripts when there is a > corresponding Upstart job, from which I infer that Upstart does not do > the same as systemd?

Re: init systems and Policy

2012-03-27 Thread Simon McVittie
On 27/03/12 07:20, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: >> It is not clear to me the status of similar policy work for systemd, >> although I see that systemd maintainers are participating in >> #591791. Again, if you're interested in Debian switch to systemd, >> please contribute to that work rather than arguin