Re: formal documents

1998-10-09 Thread D'jinnie
:Yes. [Though if there is any opportunity to meet another developer in :real life and cross sign each others keys, this is the preferred :method, where it's viable.] Just out of curiousity - is there a geographical listing of Debian developers? I doubt there are any in Nebraska, but it seems like

Re: PGP in the US (Re: formal documents)

1998-10-09 Thread Carey Evans
Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This reminds me of a joke; unfortunately I couldn't track it down > in a quick look on altavista and I haven't any more time to look for it. > In short, a man attends several days of a trade show and each day > tells a security guard that today he will

Re: PGP in the US (Re: formal documents)

1998-10-09 Thread Raul Miller
Gregory S. Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It might not be legal for someone to give him PGP or explain how > crypto works even while he's in the US. No, the regulations prohibit export. If he's in the US, that's not export. As you mention, even if it was a problem, it would be a problem for

Re: PGP in the US (Re: formal documents)

1998-10-06 Thread Kikutani Makoto
Thanks for all. I'll use US-PGP and discard it before leaving the US. Regards. -- Kikutani, Makoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Linux related only)

Re: PGP in the US (Re: formal documents)

1998-10-05 Thread Joseph Carter
On Mon, Oct 05, 1998 at 11:43:29AM -0700, Bob Nielsen wrote: > > > I had to deal with this idiocy back in the eighties when I was building > > > computers which may have qualified as 'munitions'. > > > > And remember that books are the purest form of evil and should always be > > burned if they ha

Re: PGP in the US (Re: formal documents)

1998-10-05 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Mon, 5 Oct 1998, Joseph Carter wrote: > On Mon, Oct 05, 1998 at 09:57:24AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I had to deal with this idiocy back in the eighties when I was building > > computers which may have qualified as 'munitions'. > > And remember that books are the purest form of evil

Re: PGP in the US (Re: formal documents)

1998-10-05 Thread Joseph Carter
On Mon, Oct 05, 1998 at 09:57:24AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I had to deal with this idiocy back in the eighties when I was building > computers which may have qualified as 'munitions'. And remember that books are the purest form of evil and should always be burned if they have not been pu

Re: PGP in the US (Re: formal documents)

1998-10-05 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sun, Oct 04, 1998 at 10:49:26AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > If you brought it with you (and can PROVE it) there is probably no > > problem in theory. > > It doesn't matter where he got it. It is entirely legal for anyone to use > or distribute strong crypto in the US. The only restric

Re: PGP in the US (Re: formal documents)

1998-10-05 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sun, Oct 04, 1998 at 11:23:52AM -0400, Kikutani Makoto wrote: > > > I'm a Japanese living in the United States, but not a permanent > > > resident. I've heared that the usage of PGP in the States by > > > a person like me is controversial. I posted this qestion to some > > > related Mailing-List

Re: PGP in the US (Re: formal documents)

1998-10-05 Thread john
Ruud de Rooij writes: > I seem to recall that transfer of cryptographic software to a non-US > citizen is already considered export in the US. No. Transfer of cryptographic software to a non-resident alien may expose one to proecution if and only if the alien subsequently exports the software. B

Re: PGP in the US (Re: formal documents)

1998-10-05 Thread john
I wrote: > You heard wrong. Your nationality and residency status is irrelevant. Gregory S. Stark writes: > It might not be legal for someone to give him PGP or explain how crypto > works even while he's in the US. > ... > In any case it wouldn't be you breaking the law, but the person helping >

Re: PGP in the US (Re: formal documents)

1998-10-05 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Oct 04, 1998 at 02:18:39PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > 3) It is a violation of US law to export any kind of pgp from the US. >This is true even if you brought it here in the first place. This reminds me of a joke; unfortunately I couldn't track it down in a quick look on altavist

Re: PGP in the US (Re: formal documents)

1998-10-05 Thread Ruud de Rooij
On 1998/10/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Kikutani Makoto writes: > > Yes, my PGP is an international version which was built in Japan, and I > > brought it in my laptop. > > The international version infringes the RSA patent and so the owner of the > patent (PKP?) could theoretically sue you for

Re: PGP in the US (Re: formal documents)

1998-10-05 Thread Gregory S. Stark
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Kikutani Makoto writes: > > I'm a Japanese living in the United States, but not a permanent > > resident. I've heared that the usage of PGP in the States by a person > > like me is controversial. > > You heard wrong. Your nationality and residency status is irrelevan

Re: PGP in the US (Re: formal documents)

1998-10-04 Thread john
Kikutani Makoto writes: > Yes, my PGP is an international version which was built in Japan, and I > brought it in my laptop. The international version infringes the RSA patent and so the owner of the patent (PKP?) could theoretically sue you for using it in the US. All they could get is an injunc

Re: PGP in the US (Re: formal documents)

1998-10-04 Thread john
Joseph Carter writes: > If you brought it with you (and can PROVE it) there is probably no > problem in theory. It doesn't matter where he got it. It is entirely legal for anyone to use or distribute strong crypto in the US. The only restriction is on export. He is perfectly safe as long as he d

Re: PGP in the US (Re: formal documents)

1998-10-04 Thread Kikutani Makoto
On Sun, Oct 04, 1998 at 07:57:40AM -0700, Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm a Japanese living in the United States, but not a permanent > > resident. I've heared that the usage of PGP in the States by > > a person like me is controversial. I posted this qestion to some > > related M

Re: PGP in the US (Re: formal documents)

1998-10-04 Thread john
Kikutani Makoto writes: > I'm a Japanese living in the United States, but not a permanent > resident. I've heared that the usage of PGP in the States by a person > like me is controversial. You heard wrong. Your nationality and residency status is irrelevant. -- John HaslerThis p

Re: PGP in the US (Re: formal documents)

1998-10-04 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sun, Oct 04, 1998 at 09:49:44AM -0400, Kikutani Makoto wrote: > > > Do you accept a passport as the above formal documents ? > > > > Yes. [Though if there is any opportunity to meet another developer in > > Good. I asked this because Japanese developers w

PGP in the US (Re: formal documents)

1998-10-04 Thread Kikutani Makoto
On Sun, Oct 04, 1998 at 12:47:45AM +0100, James Troup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Do you accept a passport as the above formal documents ? > > Yes. [Though if there is any opportunity to meet another developer in Good. I asked this because Japanese developers who are

Re: formal documents

1998-10-03 Thread James Troup
Kikutani Makoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Do you accept a passport as the above formal documents ? Yes. [Though if there is any opportunity to meet another developer in real life and cross sign each others keys, this is the preferred method, where it's viable.] -- James

Re: formal documents

1998-10-03 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Sat, Oct 03, 1998 at 05:43:14PM -0400, Kikutani Makoto wrote: > Do you accept a passport as the above formal documents ? I'm not one of those who decide that, but I would find it quite strange if it were not accepted. It's as formal as it could reasonably get.

formal documents

1998-10-03 Thread Kikutani Makoto
any current Debian developer. * A scanned (or physically mailed) copy of any formal documents certifying your identity (such as a birth certificate, national ID card, U.S. Driver's License, etc.). Please sign the image with your PGP or RSA key. Do you acc