Ah,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NX_bit
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symmetric_multiprocessing
you know I am learning more and more from you fellows every day.
I have some specific recommendations: forget about listing individual
brands, just
On Tue, 2011-05-24 at 18:28 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> jida...@jidanni.org writes:
>
> > Say, for the sake of sharing a single .deb offline, what bad thing might
> > happen if I run the -486 kernel on my other machines where I could run
> > the -pae kernel? Namely other single Celerons h
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 08:58:43AM -0700, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > > JM> How about trying a “grep pae /proc/cpuinfo” instead of looking for
> > > JM> approximate CPU descriptions?
> > > And indeed lshw says
> > > product: Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor 1.40GHz
> > > capabilitie
jida...@jidanni.org writes:
> Say, for the sake of sharing a single .deb offline, what bad thing might
> happen if I run the -486 kernel on my other machines where I could run
> the -pae kernel? Namely other single Celerons having the pae capability.
Nothing happens. You just won't be able to use
On Tue, 2011-05-24 at 17:05 +0600, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 05:32:08PM +0800, jida...@jidanni.org wrote:
> > JM> How about trying a “grep pae /proc/cpuinfo” instead of looking for
> > JM> approximate CPU descriptions?
> > And indeed lshw says
> > product: Intel(
Adam Borowski, le Tue 24 May 2011 16:34:55 +0200, a écrit :
> But in general, Celeron is an
> insanely overused brand, it carries no information other than "a crippled
> version of a CPU from Intel" as it can come from about any other brand they
> make.
Indeed. The name could probably be simply d
>> > Say, for the sake of sharing a single .deb offline, what bad thing might
>> > happen if I run the -486 kernel on my other machines where I could run
>> > the -pae kernel?
>> Nothing serious, unless they have a lot of RAM (in which case the kernel
>> may not be able to make use of all of it).
>
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 07:15:29PM +0800, jida...@jidanni.org wrote:
> > "AR" == Andrey Rahmatullin writes:
> AR> Or specifically mention early Centrino CPUs not having PAE support.
> Celeron™ too! So just say "may" or "might" like the pros do.
Early Celerons do have pae:
(a Pentium 2 class o
On mar., 2011-05-24 at 09:58 -0300, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > Say, for the sake of sharing a single .deb offline, what bad thing might
> > happen if I run the -486 kernel on my other machines where I could run
> > the -pae kernel?
>
> Nothing serious, unless they have a lot of RAM (in which case t
> "AR" == Andrey Rahmatullin writes:
AR> Or specifically mention early Centrino CPUs not having PAE support.
Celeron™ too! So just say "may" or "might" like the pros do.
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On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 05:32:08PM +0800, jida...@jidanni.org wrote:
> JM> How about trying a “grep pae /proc/cpuinfo” instead of looking for
> JM> approximate CPU descriptions?
> And indeed lshw says
> product: Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor 1.40GHz
> capabilities: fpu fpu_exc
> "JM" == Josselin Mouette writes:
JM> How about trying a “grep pae /proc/cpuinfo” instead of looking for
JM> approximate CPU descriptions?
And indeed lshw says
product: Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor 1.40GHz
capabilities: fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr mce cx8 se
Le mardi 24 mai 2011 à 16:41 +0800, jida...@jidanni.org a écrit :
> > "BH" == Ben Hutchings writes:
>
> BH> The clue is in the name. And expanded in the description, in case you
> BH> don't know what PAE is.
>
> $ apt-cache show linux-image-2.6.39-1-686-pae|grep Celeron
> supported by the
> "BH" == Ben Hutchings writes:
BH> The clue is in the name. And expanded in the description, in case you
BH> don't know what PAE is.
$ apt-cache show linux-image-2.6.39-1-686-pae|grep Celeron
supported by the Intel Pentium Pro/II/III/4/4M/D, Xeon, Celeron, Core and
That's me. Celeron.
O
On Tue, 2011-05-24 at 07:59 +0800, jida...@jidanni.org wrote:
> Recently Debian sid split the kernel into these two packages,
>
> linux-image-2.6.39-1-486_2.6.39-1_i386.deb
> linux-image-2.6.39-1-686-pae_2.6.39-1_i386.deb
>
> My Thinkpad ended up being told by the installation scripts to use -486
jida...@jidanni.org writes:
>> "RC" == Russell Coker writes:
> RC> Why not just install the other kernel and try booting it?
> Maybe it will lead to subtle data loss. You never know. That's why I was
> hoping to dig out of the .debs just how they determine which Thinkpads
> are hip, and which
> "RC" == Russell Coker writes:
RC> Why not just install the other kernel and try booting it?
Maybe it will lead to subtle data loss. You never know. That's why I was
hoping to dig out of the .debs just how they determine which Thinkpads
are hip, and which to skip.
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On Tue, 24 May 2011, jida...@jidanni.org wrote:
> But my Thinkpad isn't really very old... how can one double check to see
> if the decision was correct? I can't figure it out even after probing
> the .debs to find just where they probe the choice.
Why not just install the other kernel and try boo
Recently Debian sid split the kernel into these two packages,
linux-image-2.6.39-1-486_2.6.39-1_i386.deb
linux-image-2.6.39-1-686-pae_2.6.39-1_i386.deb
My Thinkpad ended up being told by the installation scripts to use -486.
But my Thinkpad isn't really very old... how can one double check to se
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